Pels v Wolves

[TheFuture]

Just saw the tail end of the Dlo presser.

On Zion:

"He's just running through our guys, can't touch him, can't guard him. He's playing football and we're playing basketball, so .. good for him."

I got a kick out of that. Seriously, what do you do with the guy when he can throw 280lbs into your chest to move you around (see the Jaden baseline play), but you tap him in any way and get called.

It is the one major sport where it is fully possible and painfully obvious through officiating which players they want to prop up, same with markets but that has and won't changed. Throw Ant over in NY and he is getting twice as many calls.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Cant rebound. This team sucks.

Like I said I'm taking a step back from this board. But Dlo didn't box out. Can't be lazy down the stretch and he was lazy

Again with this "", DLO actually did box out and the rebound came high.

Yeah, D-Lo actually did locate Dyson Daniels and put his body on him a bit, but Daniels is 6'7 with bunnies. He elevated for the basketball. Not much you can do there.

DLo cannot make that lazy pass that leads to that Zion dunk. That's the stuff I hate.

You mean the pass that Jaden McDaniels received cleanly with both hands on the basketball? I fail to see how that's on the passer whatsoever.

If anything, McDaniels needs to attack the basketball on the catch, but really it's just an aggressive defensive play.

I know you will defend Dlo to the end, but come on. That was 100% a lazy pass from him. Telegraphed as Doper stated. Cannot do that at that point in the game.

I'd agree with you both if Zion jumped the pass in the air before it got to the intended target, but that's not what happened. Telegraphed or not, the ball is literally in Jaden's hands when Zion rips it away. Help your point guard out. Either come to the ball or keep the defender on your hip.

Like I said, I'll agree to disagree. Not trying to go round for round about this one play. Great game. Great battle. Very entertaining. Minnesota got the bad end of a few crucial whistles and made mistakes of their own late.

[Q-is-here]

Losses like this are easier to deal with when you don't suck, but this team does.

We don't suck. We're in the midst of a 12-game stretch with 9 on the road. Of those 9, only one of them is against a team with less than a .500 record.

Obviously there is plenty to be disappointed about this season, but this team does not suck. In fact, not many teams in the NBA do suck this year. There might be only 5 or 6 teams that actually suck. The league is really competitive this year.

[Q-is-here]

Just saw the tail end of the Dlo presser.

On Zion:

"He's just running through our guys, can't touch him, can't guard him. He's playing football and we're playing basketball, so .. good for him."

I got a kick out of that. Seriously, what do you do with the guy when he can throw 280lbs into your chest to move you around (see the Jaden baseline play), but you tap him in any way and get called.

It is the one major sport where it is fully possible and painfully obvious through officiating which players they want to prop up, same with markets but that has and won't changed. Throw Ant over in NY and he is getting twice as many calls.

I truly believe he is going to get solved in the playoffs. I think a smart Western Conference team will figure him out in a 7-game series. Plus the refs will swallow their whistles a lot more in the playoffs. No way does a healthy Golden State, Clipper, or Memphis team allow him to bully them for an entire playoff series.

[WildWolf2813]

Losses like this are easier to deal with when you don't suck, but this team does.

We don't suck. We're in the midst of a 12-game stretch with 9 on the road. Of those 9, only one of them is against a team with less than a .500 record.

Obviously there is plenty to be disappointed about this season, but this team does not suck. In fact, not many teams in the NBA do suck this year. There might be only 5 or 6 teams that actually suck. The league is really competitive this year.

when they've blown the games they've blown, especially at home and considering the schedule that awaits them, they've blown through more margin for error than any Western Conference team. Part of the next step in this team's growth was that these games, while hard, would start leaning more towards our favor, at least in the regular season. With any other team kinda in it, there's a benefit of the doubt that they've earned that this team has not, and because they appear to be a team that's not gonna pull off these games more often than not, by the end of this road gauntlet, they're gonna be a defeated bunch and we know this team has historically always failed in the face of adversity.

[Lipoli390]

I didn't watch the game tonight. I noticed some debate in this thread over whether DLO made a bad pass. I understand that a player's mistake at a critical time will tend to draw a lot of attention and criticism. But I bring the fresh perspective of someone who has only seen he box score. Knowing that DLO had 27 points on 8-17 FG shooting and 9-9 free throw shooting along with 3 steals, I think the debate over what might have been a bad pass by DLO is beside the point. It looks like DLO, Edwards and McDaniels held up their end, although Edwards' four missed free throws turned out to be big misses. Once again the Wolves were out-rebounded by their opponent tonight. And they ended up with 11 fewer free throw attempts. Just closing the rebounding or free-throw gap a little bit would likely have resulted in a Wolves win. Same old story for the Wolves this season.

[Leado01]

Cant rebound. This team sucks.

Like I said I'm taking a step back from this board. But Dlo didn't box out. Can't be lazy down the stretch and he was lazy

Again with this "", DLO actually did box out and the rebound came high.

Yeah, D-Lo actually did locate Dyson Daniels and put his body on him a bit, but Daniels is 6'7 with bunnies. He elevated for the basketball. Not much you can do there.

DLo cannot make that lazy pass that leads to that Zion dunk. That's the stuff I hate.

You mean the pass that Jaden McDaniels received cleanly with both hands on the basketball? I fail to see how that's on the passer whatsoever.

If anything, McDaniels needs to attack the basketball on the catch, but really it's just an aggressive defensive play.

It was completely telegraphed, Zion saw it a mile away and was an easy steal. it was a bad pass and rightfully marked a turnover on Dlo.

Zion made that steal and Ant almost got a steal on the other end when Zion received a pass while curling to the hoop that would have led to a similar wide open dunk but instead Zion got the bucket driving down the lane. That's the ballgame. Zion got the steal and Ant missed his by a split second.

If you played you may be familiar with the concept of "meet the pass." Most passes are not disguised. Most passes are telegraphed. The receiving player needs to actually meet the pass.

[AbeVigodaLive]

Abe's Late Night DVR Review:

- I can't wait for D. Russell to be off this team. And it's not because he's a terrible player or whatever. The board's discourse with him is ridiculous. It was a bad, telegraphed, lazy pass AND... McDaniels has to do better to receive it. Both things can be true... for both Russell lovers and detractors.

- I didn't see Towns at the game. I wonder what he's thinking in this one when McCollum gets rewarded with three free throws for kicking out his leg on his jump shot and seemingly not even being touched. As long as he's been in the league, I don't know if that's part of his usual shot or not. In any case, Towns is not getting those three free throws. We've seen it too many times.

- And he's getting his layup wiped off the board on the elbow call. I try not to be the "the refs, the refs!" kind of fan. But again, those are two bugaboos that we've watched this team's best player get called for countless times. And yet... those four points are the difference in this one. Yes, Towns complains A LOT. But not more than many other higher end players. He might even be right sometimes.

- The 3rd quarter was a rough one. WAY TOO MANY FOULS.

- Fun, entertaining game. The Wolves played hard. And they mostly played well. I didn't even fall asleep this time! In fact, I'm wide awake right now after struggling to keep my eyes open earlier.

But just like we were saying when they struggled to beat bad teams early in the year... a win is a win. And in this case... a loss is still a loss. This team is looking at 16 - 20... and 12th place in the West. It's going to be a long, uphill climb to avoid giving Utah a lottery pick.

[FNG]

I didn't watch the game tonight. I noticed some debate in this thread over whether DLO made a bad pass. I understand that a player's mistake at a critical time will tend to draw a lot of attention and criticism. But I bring the fresh perspective of someone who has only seen he box score. Knowing that DLO had 27 points on 8-17 FG shooting and 9-9 free throw shooting along with 3 steals, I think the debate over what might have been a bad pass by DLO is beside the point. It looks like DLO, Edwards and McDaniels held up their end, although Edwards' four missed free throws turned out to be big misses. Once again the Wolves were out-rebounded by their opponent tonight. And they ended up with 11 fewer free throw attempts. Just closing the rebounding or free-throw gap a little bit would likely have resulted in a Wolves win. Same old story for the Wolves this season.

It was a good one, Lip...worth watching. And we win the game if Ant hits a 6 footer at the buzzer.

As for DLo, the box score is accurate. He played one of his best games of the year, and we almost stole one in New Orleans. But his lazy turnover was inexcusable and all on him. Trying to argue that it was not clearly his turnover is like Kyrie Irving arguing that the world is flat.

[FNG]

Nowell gets ripped here a lot, but I have seen a significant change in his defense in the last couple games. He doesn't take plays off on defense, and seems to be kind of getting the concept of team defense...he had some really nice closeouts tonight. I'm guessing Finchie sees it too, because he gave him 25 minutes tonight. We need games like this from Nowell.