If you were Wolves PBO, which big man would you seek to acquire right now?

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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Camden wrote:
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Camden0916 wrote:Here's a thought. What do you all think it would take to acquire the 22-year old Wendell Carter Jr. from Orlando?

Carter Jr. was obviously part of the package that Chicago dealt to Orlando for Nikola Vucevic, but it's unclear if they're really banking on him for their future. In theory, he could do a lot of the dirty work that Karl-Anthony Towns hasn't been able to do while he's been shouldering the load offensively. His numbers are solid-yet-unspectacular given the role he plays.

Orlando looks pretty thin on the wing and lacks a strong perimeter defender in the backcourt besides the newly-drafted Jalen Suggs. I could potentially see a Josh Okogie for Carter Jr. one-for-one swap making sense for both teams. Minnesota might have to add draft compensation in the form of a second-round draft pick(s) or even Jaylen Nowell becomes part of the conversation.


What's their plan with Mo Bamba? Looking at who they have under contract they don't exactly have a lot of "bigs" so I'm not sure this makes sense but I could see Orlando being a team the Wolves end up dealing with in the future and I like Wendell Carter Jr to some extent. Both he and Mo Bamba are headed towards FA after this coming season and their Qualifying offers are not particularly cheap at 9 million for Carter and over 10 million for Bamba.


Yeah, I was just about to mention Mo Bamba as another potentially "easier" target to acquire given that he's firmly behind Carter Jr. in Orlando. That might be the way to go even though I like Carter Jr. more. Keep in mind the Magic also have Robin Lopez on the roster for a year as well as Jonathan Isaac who could slide in at the five from time to time. I just see that they're a bit thin at the wing, especially defensively, and they could likely part with a big and be fine. I could see a potential trade there.



I don't see Robin Lopez finishing the season with Orlando.


So...why did Orlando sign him?
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Thanks for being honest :) , Of course everything has their own different languages (experiences = skills) but number is universal language. Chinese Zodiac has been studied over 4000 years and there are a lot of facts and researches in asian countries and chinese culture . Zodiac is about number just like we look at box scores, bank accounts, energies fast or slow, Basketball IQ, etc... Numbers don't lie but it can be overrated and misleading but zodiac is an invisible number that can lead you to make a good choice and decision (married) base on its data and study.

Lauri Markkanen, why does he wants to live Bulls because he doesn't like or headbutt zach lavine because both born on rat day same did Ryan Saunder and D Angelo tiger day, Coach Popovich and Kawhi headbutts both horse day but in other hands coach Popovich and Duncan were dynamics because one is horse and other is goat zodiac form a pair secret friends. Anyway this is called cohesive in relationship (married) and if opposite then a divorce (wasting time and money aka David Kahn). David Kahn Dog, goat, ox three opposite zodiac and which are opposite and repulsive to dragon (steph curry) that was misfortune for Timberwolves now speaking of that Steph Curry is born dragon day and year same as chauncey billup and derrick rose and COBY WHITE. Now Bulls' just got Caruso some how we can snatch Coby White for Culver. Opps did we have first choice to choose in draft and same thing Rubio and John Flynn with Curry. How did Warrrios got lucky on Draymond and Klay both born on Dragon day aka David Ortiz (twins got away now Miguel Sano born dragon day if he can change his jersey number like Ortiz to any combination add up to 7) By the way Ortiz was wearing 27 before switching 34. 22 is the worse number, hey Wiggins and Butler you HEAR me...yours career can be sabotage unless their birth numbers. here's formula ortiz born 75 = 7+5 = 12 = 3 the 10-3 = 7 = 34. Bret Farve 69 = 15 = 6 then 10-6 = 4 VIOLA. Mike Trout 91 = 10 = 1 then 10-1=9 he wears 27 is 9 Viola. Jerry West 38 = 11 = 2 then 10-2 =8 wear 44 equal 8, Magic Johnson 59 = 14 = 5 then 10-5 = 5 he wears 32 so does pete rose 14 as 5 born 1941. That's called a power of zodiac!

Plus-minus metric is not depend individual since this is a team game. I look at players either having good (hot hands) or bad (butterfinger) day. In zodiac, it's easy to determine individual good or bad days and goes with opponents.
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- Robert Williams III (Celtics)
- Wendell Carter Jr. (Magic)
- Myles Turner (Pacers)
- Moses Brown (Mavericks)
- Brandon Clarke (Grizzlies)
- Mitchell Robinson (Knicks)
- Jaxson Hayes (Pelicans)
- Daniel Gafford (Wizards)

In order of who I'd want to acquire most (top) to least (bottom), this is a shortlist of young, defensive-minded bigs that I think could be had via trade. I think all of them would likely provide an upgrade to the Wolves' starting lineup next to Karl-Anthony Towns, however, the price tag for each big varies. Who would you want most out of this bunch? Did I leave off someone that is also worth mentioning? Keep in mind I'm looking for youth (age 25 or below), defense, and availability (ie. how realistic it is that they could be traded).
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Good list, Cam. I'd like any of the guys on your list.

The one player I'd add is Hartenstein. The guy I'd want the most, by far, would be Myles Turner. But I'm not sure I'd be willing to pay the price to get him. And I do have concerns about his durability. Wendell Carter Jr. intrigues me. I don't have a good sense of what it would take to get him. I get the sense that the Pelicans consider Jaxson Hayes part of their young core and would expect too much in return for him. The Mavs seems to have an excess of big men. So maybe Brown is obtainable without giving up too much. He's be my top pick among the less pricey alternatives on your list.

What do you think we'd have to give up for each of these guys?
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Good list, Cam, and despite his mercurial at times personality, I would also have Williams at the top of my list. I see him as a very plus version of Vando. That said, I can't see any way that we would steal him from the Celtics, as I think extending him is a big priority for the Celts front office. They certainly know what we know:

-the Celtics were 10-3 in games Williams started last season
-at .247, he is the Celtics' all-time leader in win shares per 48. That's right...ahead of Bird, Russell, McHale, Irving, KG or any other Celtic legend you can think of!
-he ranked 9th in the NBA last season in PER
- he has more blocks than missed shots in his career!

Can anyone come up with a deal that would entice Boston to give up a guy like Williams, who I think they see as their starting C for years to come?

Would anyone support offering a sign and trade Beasley for Williams deal? I would, but I don't think Boston would bite. But I think a Beasley-type deal is what Williams will be seeking as his contract expires next season.
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Do the Celtics ever come out of a draft without at least one really useful player!?
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Q12543 wrote:Do the Celtics ever come out of a draft without at least one really useful player!?


Ha, nope. And many were surprised at how far he fell on draft night. He's an odd one though. I think he slept through and missed his post-draft press conference, and also missed his flight on the way to Summer League! But what a size/athleticism combo!
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FNG wrote:[
Q12543 wrote:Do the Celtics ever come out of a draft without at least one really useful player!?


Ha, nope. And many were surprised at how far he fell on draft night. He's an odd one though. I think he slept through and missed his post-draft press conference, and also missed his flight on the way to Summer League! But what a size/athleticism combo!


It helps when they always seem to have at least 3 picks.
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It's very unlikely, but what's the price on Christian Wood of the Houston Rockets? I'm not going to sell you on how good the guy is because all of us should be aware by now. I think Wood could be a trade chip at some point as the Rockets enter a rebuild. Does Malik Beasley and Minnesota's 2022 first-round pick make Houston consider moving him? Maybe you add Naz Reid to that?

Alternatively, Houston might not value Beasley or Reid as much because they drafted Jalen Green and Alperen Sengun this summer. In that case, would Taurean Prince's expiring contract, two first-round picks, and Washington's second-round pick be attractive enough?

I'm not really sure what Wood's trade value looks like because of his brief history in the league and some injury concerns, but I'd make both of those trades.
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Camden0916 wrote:It's very unlikely, but what's the price on Christian Wood of the Houston Rockets? I'm not going to sell you on how good the guy is because all of us should be aware by now. I think Wood could be a trade chip at some point as the Rockets enter a rebuild. Does Malik Beasley and Minnesota's 2022 first-round pick make Houston consider moving him? Maybe you add Naz Reid to that?

Alternatively, Houston might not value Beasley or Reid as much because they drafted Jalen Green and Alperen Sengun this summer. In that case, would Taurean Prince's expiring contract, two first-round picks, and Washington's second-round pick be attractive enough?

I'm not really sure what Wood's trade value looks like because of his brief history in the league and some injury concerns, but I'd make both of those trades.


That's an interesting idea. Here are a couple things I thought of.

1. Wood is signed for this season and next season. At some point they are going to need to trade him or pay him more money.

2. What is Houston trying to do? Are they trying to be somewhat competitive? They signed Theis to a pretty decent deal. They have some vets there.

3. I don't think Beasley will interest them a great deal as they have Eric Gordon there they might be willing to swap Beasley for Gordon if that means they can save money...I like Eric Gordon but I am not sure I would want to take on his salary. They do also have Josh Christopher too.

4. If I was Houston I would want to at least see what happens this season with the group I've assembled and go from there. Would I expect to be really good? No but I might want to see what I had before moving players that might be a part of whatever came next and maybe see what I would want back in a deal.

5. If someone blows them away with an offer for Wood then sure. I don't know if basically 2 first round picks is good enough to make the Rockets want to deal him. Honestly if the league viewed him as a PF then he is easily worth that and a bidding war would break out among teams looking for a upgrade. Idk if the league views him as a C or a PF. I haven't seen him play enough to make that judgement or how much I would be willing to give up to get him. Just looked again at his stats. Yeah I would guess the offer would need to be higher...we could have signed this guy ourselves. Sigh...
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