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Q12543 wrote:Yeah, Swanigan is a man among boys. It's a little surprising to me how far down he is in DX's mock draft considering the numbers he's put up, but I think the concern is how he'd defend in a pace and space NBA where bigs need to be able to guard out on the perimeter. Of course, guys like Enes Kanter and Zach Randolph seem to be doing just fine destroying people off the bench.


I love watching him play reminds me a lot of Julius Randle, big body who can put the ball on the floor and bullies people who can shoot a little but will struggle on defense for a long time in the NBA.
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Sports Illustrated latest mock draft has Wolves taking my fellow countryman Lauri Markkanen with 6th pick. Even tough it would be for sure fun to watch our offense with Lauri as a stretch four, I would still probably want someone that is better defensively since it is our biggest weakness currently.

http://www.si.com/nba/2017/01/27/nba-mock-draft-prospects-rankings-lonzo-ball-markelle-fultzhttp://www.si.com/nba/2017/01/27/nba-mock-draft-prospects-rankings-lonzo-ball-markelle-fultz

Originally I expected him to be better defensively but based on articles I have read about him, he has struggled in that end. For example article below stated that he had problems to stay in front of Chimezie Metu and TJ Leaf.

https://theringer.com/the-ringers-2017-nba-draft-lottery-big-board-version-3-0-58156aa84d5#.ug6je8yewhttps://theringer.com/the-ringers-2017-nba-draft-lottery-big-board-version-3-0-58156aa84d5#.ug6je8yew

If someone has already seen some Arizona games, I would like to know what you think about how Markkanen has performed defensively.
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Have only seen a little of Markkanen, but man, that guy can shoot.

Assuming we can't get one of the big dogs at PF (Milsap and Ibaka are the two that come to mind), I wonder if Patrick Patterson would be a nice consolation prize. I don't think he's good enough to take Dieng out of the starting lineup, but he is a stretch 4 that actually makes his 3 point shots, unlike Bjelly!
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If we keep it up we won't have a pick this year. Not sure how I feel about that. Hard to sit out this draft.
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bleedspeed177 wrote:If we keep it up we won't have a pick this year. Not sure how I feel about that. Hard to sit out this draft.


We have our first this year Bleed. 2018 is the earliest the pick for the Payne trade can be conveyed. I was confused about that as well.
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One thing to consider when looking at this draft is the Wolves do have Bojan Dubljevic continuing to play well over in Europe. Is he the answer as a big next to a Towns? Probably not be he could be a piece as a part of a committee approach or maybe he could be an asset to move around in the draft or to make a deal. It sure would be nice to add some 2nd rounders somehow so we can take more flyers oneuro guys or maybe some guys to stock on the d-league affiliate.
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monsterpile wrote:One thing to consider when looking at this draft is the Wolves do have Bojan Dubljevic continuing to play well over in Europe. Is he the answer as a big next to a Towns? Probably not be he could be a piece as a part of a committee approach or maybe he could be an asset to move around in the draft or to make a deal. It sure would be nice to add some 2nd rounders somehow so we can take more flyers oneuro guys or maybe some guys to stock on the d-league affiliate.


Euro guys are fine and all but I think it is dumb that if a player you have rights to plays in the d league it takes up a roster spot for the NBA team. It is not a true minor league system
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kekgeek1 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:One thing to consider when looking at this draft is the Wolves do have Bojan Dubljevic continuing to play well over in Europe. Is he the answer as a big next to a Towns? Probably not be he could be a piece as a part of a committee approach or maybe he could be an asset to move around in the draft or to make a deal. It sure would be nice to add some 2nd rounders somehow so we can take more flyers oneuro guys or maybe some guys to stock on the d-league affiliate.


Euro guys are fine and all but I think it is dumb that if a player you have rights to plays in the d league it takes up a roster spot for the NBA team. It is not a true minor league system


One of the benefit of the Euro guys is they can develop their game while playing elsewhere not taking up a roster spot and they cost nothing. As far as the D-league not being a minor league system that's going to change in the near future. The new CBA is helping to facilitate that and making it much more adventageous for everyone to make it happen.
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Q12543 wrote:Have only seen a little of Markkanen, but man, that guy can shoot.

Assuming we can't get one of the big dogs at PF (Milsap and Ibaka are the two that come to mind), I wonder if Patrick Patterson would be a nice consolation prize. I don't think he's good enough to take Dieng out of the starting lineup, but he is a stretch 4 that actually makes his 3 point shots, unlike Bjelly!


Patterson would be nice stretch four that is much more valuable for his team than you would think based on his stats. He has had +13.4 net rating this season and +14.4 on/off numbers. I doubt Toronto will let him go even tough they have to give Lowry quite a contract next summer.

One thing that I don't really like in his game is that he seems to be nowadays just a pure three point shooting threat. If opponent makes a counter move by playing wing as a power forward, Patterson is totally unable to capitalize his size advantage. Even Belly is better in post and I have seen opponent using Belinelli defending him. So I still really, really hope that Belly would found his shooting touch since he is much more versatile player than Patterson.

One player that I have proposed already before to go after and I still like, is Tony Snell. He is having his best season as a low usage 3&D wing in Milwaukee and since Milwaukee have already contracts worth of 115 millions for next season I doubt they will match any decent offer for Snell since they have Middleton and Greek Freak playing in front of him anyway.
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Mikkeman wrote:
Q12543 wrote:Have only seen a little of Markkanen, but man, that guy can shoot.

Assuming we can't get one of the big dogs at PF (Milsap and Ibaka are the two that come to mind), I wonder if Patrick Patterson would be a nice consolation prize. I don't think he's good enough to take Dieng out of the starting lineup, but he is a stretch 4 that actually makes his 3 point shots, unlike Bjelly!


Patterson would be nice stretch four that is much more valuable for his team than you would think based on his stats. He has had +13.4 net rating this season and +14.4 on/off numbers. I doubt Toronto will let him go even tough they have to give Lowry quite a contract next summer.

One thing that I don't really like in his game is that he seems to be nowadays just a pure three point shooting threat. If opponent makes a counter move by playing wing as a power forward, Patterson is totally unable to capitalize his size advantage. Even Belly is better in post and I have seen opponent using Belinelli defending him. So I still really, really hope that Belly would found his shooting touch since he is much more versatile player than Patterson.

One player that I have proposed already before to go after and I still like, is Tony Snell. He is having his best season as a low usage 3&D wing in Milwaukee and since Milwaukee have already contracts worth of 115 millions for next season I doubt they will match any decent offer for Snell since they have Middleton and Greek Freak playing in front of him anyway.


Big fan of Snell as well but I'd prefer to go after a wing with some bulk like PJ Tucker.
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