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Re: Jimmy Butler traded to Philly

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:08 pm
by kekgeek
This trade also allows us to gamble if we want to. If the Hornets are confident that Walker is leaving would they do Walker/Zeller/Williams for teague/Taj and Bayless.

It's a gamble for the wolves but we gamble now. With 22 mil in expirings

Re: Jimmy Butler traded to Philly

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:25 pm
by WildWolf2813
Too bad we can't get Rubio back next summer.

Re: Jimmy Butler traded to Philly

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:27 pm
by WildWolf2813
kekgeek1 wrote:This trade also allows us to gamble if we want to. If the Hornets are confident that Walker is leaving would they do Walker/Zeller/Williams for teague/Taj and Bayless.

It's a gamble for the wolves but we gamble now. With 22 mil in expirings

I think it's the opposite and they're convince he's staying.

Besides that offer isn't nearly good enough to land Walker.

Re: Jimmy Butler traded to Philly

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:41 pm
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
Jester1534 wrote:How many of you would take Covington Saric and 1 playoff year with Butler over Lavine, Markkanen and Dunn? I'm honestly 50/50 on it.


Jester, you frame up a question pretty well for a baseball guy. I definitely take the Philly package plus 1 playoff year with Butler over the Bulls' three guys. LaVine has been a minus player his entire career, Dunn seems to have physical and personal issues, and Markkanen is an injured question mark.

Now it's time to integrate the new guys into the rotation, and no better time to bring in a new coach.

Re: Jimmy Butler traded to Philly

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:45 pm
by Wolvesfan21
WildWolf2813 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:I can see KAT and Saric ending a lot of halves/games together as a pair, but I still think KAT needs a true big man that can give us 20-25 MPG and help on the boards and clog the paint. Saric/Embiid works defensively because Embiid is a monster. KAT unfortunately doesn't offer up the same level of resistance and Saric certainly doesn't. Nice piece, but not a great fit defensively IMO.

Which is why either Saric is a 6th man here too or he's gotta be shopped for a PG (as I said earlier, I don't believe the PG of the future is on this team).

The 2 main needs of the Wolves now just don't exist much in the 2019 draft which sucks. Even Zion for all the talent he has just doesn't compliment Towns well.

At this point I'm rooting like hell for someone Jaylen Hands to play well enough to justify a lottery selection on him for PG.

C Towns /Dieng
PF ??? /Saric
SF Covington /Beita-Diop
SG Wiggins /Okogie (I hope this flips)
PG Hands /Teodosic or Dinwiddie


I'm pretty sure Zion will be elite on any team. He's like a combination of young Lebron and young Barkley.

Re: Jimmy Butler traded to Philly

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:46 pm
by worldK
Okay deal for us. Jimmy is a cancer and needed to be moved. Covington and saric are role players but good ones on great deals. We can use them or package their favoreable contracts with others.

Next move is to move taj and teague. Dont think they fit with the team anymore.

Teague has no chemistry with towns and wiggins. They just dont mesh. Rose has been the best pg on the team this season and I dont want to see him back as backup sg. Okogie should be the backup sg and rose/tyus as the pgs.

We are 4-9 and near bottom in the west. We are. It making the playoffs this year. Time to try to get value for teague and taj while we can.

Re: Jimmy Butler traded to Philly

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:52 pm
by Wolvesfan21
worldK wrote:Okay deal for us. Jimmy is a cancer and needed to be moved. Covington and saric are role players but good ones on great deals. We can use them or package their favoreable contracts with others.

Next move is to move taj and teague. Dont think they fit with the team anymore.

Teague has no chemistry with towns and wiggins. They just dont mesh. Rose has been the best pg on the team this season and I dont want to see him back as backup sg. Okogie should be the backup sg and rose/tyus as the pgs.

We are 4-9 and near bottom in the west. We are. It making the playoffs this year. Time to try to get value for teague and taj while we can.


Agreed, if we can get something of value for them do it. Neither is the future and who cares about this season. We are in rebuild mode.

Now that the psycho Butler is gone, we can probably even play some decent ball towards the end of the year once these guys gel a bit. Then fire Thibs. Or fire him now. lol

Re: Jimmy Butler traded to Philly

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:57 pm
by Monster
WolvesFan21 wrote:
worldK wrote:Okay deal for us. Jimmy is a cancer and needed to be moved. Covington and saric are role players but good ones on great deals. We can use them or package their favoreable contracts with others.

Next move is to move taj and teague. Dont think they fit with the team anymore.

Teague has no chemistry with towns and wiggins. They just dont mesh. Rose has been the best pg on the team this season and I dont want to see him back as backup sg. Okogie should be the backup sg and rose/tyus as the pgs.

We are 4-9 and near bottom in the west. We are. It making the playoffs this year. Time to try to get value for teague and taj while we can.


Agreed, if we can get something of value for them do it. Neither is the future and who cares about this season. We are in rebuild mode.

Now that the psycho Butler is gone, we can probably even play some decent ball towards the end of the year once these guys gel a bit. Then fire Thibs. Or fire him now. lol


Might as well get something out of Thibs since there is no obvious answers as coach available. Let's see how things go with the new guys. I'm fine moving Taj or Teague if there is value but I kinda doubt at this point that will happen. Teague I could see maybe the Suns acquiring him if he gets back healthy. I think it's worthwhile to see how this new teams gell together. There is real talent here and the team just got deeper. It's possible they go a run and get back to .500. Saric and Covington could be guys that add even more pace and space to a team that's already moved that direction. It's gonna be really interesting how Thibs manages Taj Saric Tolliver and Dieng.

Re: Jimmy Butler traded to Philly

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:12 pm
by WildWolf2813
WolvesFan21 wrote:
WildWolf2813 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:I can see KAT and Saric ending a lot of halves/games together as a pair, but I still think KAT needs a true big man that can give us 20-25 MPG and help on the boards and clog the paint. Saric/Embiid works defensively because Embiid is a monster. KAT unfortunately doesn't offer up the same level of resistance and Saric certainly doesn't. Nice piece, but not a great fit defensively IMO.

Which is why either Saric is a 6th man here too or he's gotta be shopped for a PG (as I said earlier, I don't believe the PG of the future is on this team).

The 2 main needs of the Wolves now just don't exist much in the 2019 draft which sucks. Even Zion for all the talent he has just doesn't compliment Towns well.

At this point I'm rooting like hell for someone Jaylen Hands to play well enough to justify a lottery selection on him for PG.

C Towns /Dieng
PF ??? /Saric
SF Covington /Beita-Diop
SG Wiggins /Okogie (I hope this flips)
PG Hands /Teodosic or Dinwiddie


I'm pretty sure Zion will be elite on any team. He's like a combination of young Lebron and young Barkley.

but does he fit defensively? if not, you're gonna have to choose between him and Towns

Re: Jimmy Butler traded to Philly

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:13 pm
by Coolbreeze44
WolvesFan21 wrote:
worldK wrote:Okay deal for us. Jimmy is a cancer and needed to be moved. Covington and saric are role players but good ones on great deals. We can use them or package their favoreable contracts with others.

Next move is to move taj and teague. Dont think they fit with the team anymore.

Teague has no chemistry with towns and wiggins. They just dont mesh. Rose has been the best pg on the team this season and I dont want to see him back as backup sg. Okogie should be the backup sg and rose/tyus as the pgs.

We are 4-9 and near bottom in the west. We are. It making the playoffs this year. Time to try to get value for teague and taj while we can.


Agreed, if we can get something of value for them do it. Neither is the future and who cares about this season. We are in rebuild mode.

Now that the psycho Butler is gone, we can probably even play some decent ball towards the end of the year once these guys gel a bit. Then fire Thibs. Or fire him now. lol

It might take a month before we find out, but I also think we can play some decent ball later this season. As Q indicated, I think our biggest need is a big who brings a defensive presence and can give us 25 minutes. We have the assets now to find that type of guy.