Get Ready For It to Rain 3's (Wolves vs. GS)

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kekgeek1 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:It's amazing to me how little we use KAT in the flow of the offense. I know this is a new NBA now, but both KAT and Wig need to get more touches on the block. They can both be unstoppable down there. I wasn't a Mitchell fan but at least he saw the ability of these guys to score with their back to the basket. Wig spends most of the game standing at the arc, and KAT is away from the basket far too much. The two of them combined for 2 free throws tonight. That's ridiculous.


Has a lot to do with butler. I mean look at Kats numbers with him and without him. Kat rolls so much more when he is running PnR with anyone but butler


Yeah, I thought it was quite noticable how disinterested Butler was in getting the ball to KAT. Butler can be gone tomorrow.
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60WinTim wrote:
TheFuture wrote:You expect a shooter to come straight off the bench and start knocking them down?

There is a huge rhythm and repetition aspect to being a great shooter.


I imagine there is a lot one can complain about on Thibs' rotations. But putting Nunnally in to start the 4th is not one of them. Thibs is pretty consistent with his rotations, and he has the backup PG start the 2nd and 4th quarters. With Rose unable to go in the 2nd half, the next man up was Nunnally. And while that might have been a disaster for him if he had to handle the ball a ton, that unit had Butler to handle the ball. Of course, that didn't work out so well, either...


I get that golden state is great, and it could have happened either way. But a good coach doesn't put a new player, playing very very limited minutes, in that situation.
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TheFuture wrote:
60WinTim wrote:
TheFuture wrote:You expect a shooter to come straight off the bench and start knocking them down?

There is a huge rhythm and repetition aspect to being a great shooter.


I imagine there is a lot one can complain about on Thibs' rotations. But putting Nunnally in to start the 4th is not one of them. Thibs is pretty consistent with his rotations, and he has the backup PG start the 2nd and 4th quarters. With Rose unable to go in the 2nd half, the next man up was Nunnally. And while that might have been a disaster for him if he had to handle the ball a ton, that unit had Butler to handle the ball. Of course, that didn't work out so well, either...


I get that golden state is great, and it could have happened either way. But a good coach doesn't put a new player, playing very very limited minutes, in that situation.


I think every coach, especially good ones, have a "next man up" philosophy. It was not crunch time, just the start of the 4th quarter to give Tyus a blow.
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60WinTim wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
60WinTim wrote:
TheFuture wrote:You expect a shooter to come straight off the bench and start knocking them down?

There is a huge rhythm and repetition aspect to being a great shooter.


I imagine there is a lot one can complain about on Thibs' rotations. But putting Nunnally in to start the 4th is not one of them. Thibs is pretty consistent with his rotations, and he has the backup PG start the 2nd and 4th quarters. With Rose unable to go in the 2nd half, the next man up was Nunnally. And while that might have been a disaster for him if he had to handle the ball a ton, that unit had Butler to handle the ball. Of course, that didn't work out so well, either...


I get that golden state is great, and it could have happened either way. But a good coach doesn't put a new player, playing very very limited minutes, in that situation.


I think every coach, especially good ones, have a "next man up" philosophy. It was not crunch time, just the start of the 4th quarter to give Tyus a blow.


If you know you're down to 1 PG at the half, then you bite the bullet in the 3rd (run or not), not the 4th.

Maybe then your "next man up" gets a stroke going and you have another option in the fourth. Or you can move to another option instead..
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Good thing butler rested up so he could miss 8 3s. What a loser.
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TheFuture wrote:
60WinTim wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
60WinTim wrote:
TheFuture wrote:You expect a shooter to come straight off the bench and start knocking them down?

There is a huge rhythm and repetition aspect to being a great shooter.


I imagine there is a lot one can complain about on Thibs' rotations. But putting Nunnally in to start the 4th is not one of them. Thibs is pretty consistent with his rotations, and he has the backup PG start the 2nd and 4th quarters. With Rose unable to go in the 2nd half, the next man up was Nunnally. And while that might have been a disaster for him if he had to handle the ball a ton, that unit had Butler to handle the ball. Of course, that didn't work out so well, either...


I get that golden state is great, and it could have happened either way. But a good coach doesn't put a new player, playing very very limited minutes, in that situation.


I think every coach, especially good ones, have a "next man up" philosophy. It was not crunch time, just the start of the 4th quarter to give Tyus a blow.


If you know you're down to 1 PG at the half, then you bite the bullet in the 3rd (run or not), not the 4th.


We extended the lead in the 3rd. Game might of gotten out of hand if done earlier. He was asked to play 4 minutes not 15. It was a fine coaching decision
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Game was fun for 3 quarters until we went jimmy iso offense in the 4th.

Then general soreness showed so he didn't have to be on the court for the end of the game.
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TheFuture wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:It's amazing to me how little we use KAT in the flow of the offense. I know this is a new NBA now, but both KAT and Wig need to get more touches on the block. They can both be unstoppable down there. I wasn't a Mitchell fan but at least he saw the ability of these guys to score with their back to the basket. Wig spends most of the game standing at the arc, and KAT is away from the basket far too much. The two of them combined for 2 free throws tonight. That's ridiculous.


Its insane.

Start with removing Butler.

Then move to removing Thibs.

I'm with you.
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crazy-canuck wrote:Game was fun for 3 quarters until we went jimmy iso offense in the 4th.

Then general soreness showed so he didn't have to be on the court for the end of the game.


To be fair we were doing iso Jimmy all game. Warriors defense was better
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:It's amazing to me how little we use KAT in the flow of the offense. I know this is a new NBA now, but both KAT and Wig need to get more touches on the block. They can both be unstoppable down there. I wasn't a Mitchell fan but at least he saw the ability of these guys to score with their back to the basket. Wig spends most of the game standing at the arc, and KAT is away from the basket far too much. The two of them combined for 2 free throws tonight. That's ridiculous.


Its insane.

Start with removing Butler.

Then move to removing Thibs.

I'm with you.


How about your coaching experience?

What are your thoughts on Thibs' ongoing timeout management, his decision to play a guy - without a touch since halftime shootaround - in 4 big 4th quarter minutes, and his overall rotations?
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