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DNatagal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:41 pm Miller looks like this stage is to big for him. He easily gets outplayed by the competition and his shot looks more like a heave and a prayer. Minott could do well as a rebounder and screen and roller, but still needs to show more on defense. I hope Finch has a plan to play some of these guys with the top 8. 4 starters and Minott would look better than 4 subs and Minott.

Coolbreeze44 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:41 pm Lip, again Minott hasn't proven anything on defense. Guarding SL players says very little, you know this. The worst thing is you have me talking about a guy who isn't going to dress every night. Shame on me for taking the bait. This seems a lot like the Jared Culver debate that lasted for years.

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:00 am

KG4Ever wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:24 pm

kekgeek wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:11 pm

All completely fair, I considered bumping all those grades up when I was doing it. Overall I’m really happy though 2 games how the young guys have looked

Huh? The two "youngest guys" are RD and Miller and you have given your worst grades to those two. So you really like the older SL guys like TSJ.

I don’t believe kek is grading on some sort of age-sensitive sliding scale. I know I’m not. So one would expect the older players to get higher grades than the younger ones based on them having more experience and more physical development. I’d give Dilly a B- or maybe a B for today, but I can’t go higher given his poor (albeit better) shooting. When I factor in his age and look at his excellent feel for the game as well as his shooting efficiency in college as a freshman, I remain excited about him long term as very good starting PG - maybe more than just very good. I’m really pleased to see the 21 year old Minott consistently stay in front of his man in both games and grab 12 rebounds today. I know you love Miller, but he looked terrible today. He just doesn’t seem to have much of a feel for the game and I don’t see him showing anything close to the level of intensity I’ve seen in all the other Wolves summer league players. Because of his youth and talent I’m still not giving up on him long term, but I just can’t see a great better than D for his play in today’s game.

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:00 am

KG4Ever wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:24 pm

kekgeek wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:11 pm

All completely fair, I considered bumping all those grades up when I was doing it. Overall I’m really happy though 2 games how the young guys have looked

Huh? The two "youngest guys" are RD and Miller and you have given your worst grades to those two. So you really like the older SL guys like TSJ.

I don’t believe kek is grading on some sort of age-sensitive sliding scale. I know I’m not. So one would expect the older players to get higher grades than the younger ones based on them having more experience and more physical development. I’d give Dilly a B- or maybe a B for today, but I can’t go higher given his poor (albeit better) shooting. When I factor in his age and look at his excellent feel for the game as well as his shooting efficiency in college as a freshman, I remain excited about him long term as very good starting PG - maybe more than just very good. I’m really pleased to see the 21 year old Minott consistently stay in front of his man in both games and grab 12 rebounds today. I know you love Miller, but he looked terrible today. He just doesn’t seem to have much of a feel for the game and I don’t see him showing anything close to the level of intensity I’ve seen in all the other Wolves summer league players. Because of his youth and talent I’m still not giving up on him long term, but I just can’t see a great better than D for his play in today’s game.

DNatagal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:41 pm Miller looks like this stage is to big for him. He easily gets outplayed by the competition and his shot looks more like a heave and a prayer. Minott could do well as a rebounder and screen and roller, but still needs to show more on defense. I hope Finch has a plan to play some of these guys with the top 8. 4 starters and Minott would look better than 4 subs and Minott.

KG4Ever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 7:15 pm

Lipoli390 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 2:00 am

KG4Ever wrote: ↑Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:24 pm
Huh? The two "youngest guys" are RD and Miller and you have given your worst grades to those two. So you really like the older SL guys like TSJ.

I don’t believe kek is grading on some sort of age-sensitive sliding scale. I know I’m not. So one would expect the older players to get higher grades than the younger ones based on them having more experience and more physical development. I’d give Dilly a B- or maybe a B for today, but I can’t go higher given his poor (albeit better) shooting. When I factor in his age and look at his excellent feel for the game as well as his shooting efficiency in college as a freshman, I remain excited about him long term as very good starting PG - maybe more than just very good. I’m really pleased to see the 21 year old Minott consistently stay in front of his man in both games and grab 12 rebounds today. I know you love Miller, but he looked terrible today. He just doesn’t seem to have much of a feel for the game and I don’t see him showing anything close to the level of intensity I’ve seen in all the other Wolves summer league players. Because of his youth and talent I’m still not giving up on him long term, but I just can’t see a great better than D for his play in today’s game.

Lip, you are one of the older posters here, should I grade you tougher or give you some slack? Just asking for a friend.

KG4Ever wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 7:29 pm

DNatagal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 12:41 pm Miller looks like this stage is to big for him. He easily gets outplayed by the competition and his shot looks more like a heave and a prayer. Minott could do well as a rebounder and screen and roller, but still needs to show more on defense. I hope Finch has a plan to play some of these guys with the top 8. 4 starters and Minott would look better than 4 subs and Minott.

Keep in mind that TSJ wasn't an NBA caliber player at Miller's age. It took him 5 years and a weak draft to get the NBA scout's attention. Maybe, Miller becomes a bust or maybe he's a late blooming impact player, but given that we have Dozier and open spot on the roster, I'm really happy to have Miller who is making less than any regular roster player.