Starting PG Trade Options

[TheFuture]

Then again, he could be money in the pick and roll with Greg Oden if we could bring them both in

Man, I loved watching Oden and Conley in college. In that era of the NBA, Oden was going to be a huge force.

It might be a decent gamble since he is only signed this season and then next is a team option. The thing is Chicago isn't gonna give him away they might as well hold onto him and hope he stays healthy enough to either help them or to raise his trade value so they can get something for him. Having said that could the Wolves do something better with that 10 million? Yeah that's a good question. Ball could also be a guy you add into some sort of mid season deal to make salaries work. Back to the Bulls it seems like he would fit with some of the other guards there and not play big minutes to protect whatever health he has. They also don't have to have him stay healthy they have other options. I don't really expect him to get moved.

Yeah, I like Lonzo and his game. He has also been the easiest to root for in the Ball family for sure. It's a shame how his injuries have stolen the game from him. I just feel that it's like trading for him at that salary, because we're now penny pinching, is betting on 20/80 odds. I don't believe this team can afford that right now with where we are, and who we face in OKC,LAC if healthy, LAL with a Center, Denver, Houston, Dallas if Kyrie/AD come back this year at whichever points, can never rule out GSW.

[Phenom]

Brainstorming with some puzzle pieces.

KD wants Spurs but they want to save their assets.

Spurs may or may not want to have Fox, Castle and Harper together in the back court.

Wolves get Fox
Spurs get KD
Suns get Sochan, Dilly and either Rudy or Julius.

[Q-is-here]

Brainstorming with some puzzle pieces.

KD wants Spurs but they want to save their assets.

Spurs may or may not want to have Fox, Castle and Harper together in the back court.

Wolves get Fox
Spurs get KD
Suns get Sochan, Dilly and either Rudy or Julius.

Why wouldn't the Suns want Fox and just deal directly with the Spurs? Besides Center, they have a need at PG too and he's a little younger than Rudy and Julius. A Fox/Booker backcourt sounds pretty good to me.

[Phenom]

Brainstorming with some puzzle pieces.

KD wants Spurs but they want to save their assets.

Spurs may or may not want to have Fox, Castle and Harper together in the back court.

Wolves get Fox
Spurs get KD
Suns get Sochan, Dilly and either Rudy or Julius.

Why wouldn't the Suns want Fox and just deal directly with the Spurs? Besides Center, they have a need at PG too and he's a little younger than Rudy and Julius. A Fox/Booker backcourt sounds pretty good to me.

Roster balance and depth for sure. A Booker, Beal, and Fox back court with no size to speak of. 3 rotation pieces vs 1. This would align with the reported Spurs offers shown so far that include multiple pieces. Suns seem to want to break up KD salary into multiple pieces and want a young asset, which the Spurs want to hold on to. Trading Dilly makes more sense if Fox comes in.

[Q-is-here]

Brainstorming with some puzzle pieces.

KD wants Spurs but they want to save their assets.

Spurs may or may not want to have Fox, Castle and Harper together in the back court.

Wolves get Fox
Spurs get KD
Suns get Sochan, Dilly and either Rudy or Julius.

Why wouldn't the Suns want Fox and just deal directly with the Spurs? Besides Center, they have a need at PG too and he's a little younger than Rudy and Julius. A Fox/Booker backcourt sounds pretty good to me.

Roster balance and depth for sure. A Booker, Beal, and Fox back court with no size to speak of. 3 rotation pieces vs 1. This would align with the reported Spurs offers shown so far that include multiple pieces. Suns seem to want to break up KD salary into multiple pieces and want a young asset, which the Spurs want to hold on to. Trading Dilly makes more sense if Fox comes in.

Understood. It does give the Suns a nice balance of established rotation pieces and an upside piece in Dillingham.

As for Fox on the Wolves, the one nit-pick is his 3-point shooting. Seems like someone teams will provide a ton of help off of in the playoffs in order to close Ant's driving lanes. But there is a lot he's really good at it too.

[TheFuture]

Why wouldn't the Suns want Fox and just deal directly with the Spurs? Besides Center, they have a need at PG too and he's a little younger than Rudy and Julius. A Fox/Booker backcourt sounds pretty good to me.

Roster balance and depth for sure. A Booker, Beal, and Fox back court with no size to speak of. 3 rotation pieces vs 1. This would align with the reported Spurs offers shown so far that include multiple pieces. Suns seem to want to break up KD salary into multiple pieces and want a young asset, which the Spurs want to hold on to. Trading Dilly makes more sense if Fox comes in.

Understood. It does give the Suns a nice balance of established rotation pieces and an upside piece in Dillingham.

As for Fox on the Wolves, the one nit-pick is his 3-point shooting. Seems like someone teams will provide a ton of help off of in the playoffs in order to close Ant's driving lanes. But there is a lot he's really good at it too.

Every time Fox plays the Wolves I feel like he absolutely tears us apart. Am I alone in that? His first step explosion is unreal, I see some of that with Dillingham.

[AussieWolf3]

Roster balance and depth for sure. A Booker, Beal, and Fox back court with no size to speak of. 3 rotation pieces vs 1. This would align with the reported Spurs offers shown so far that include multiple pieces. Suns seem to want to break up KD salary into multiple pieces and want a young asset, which the Spurs want to hold on to. Trading Dilly makes more sense if Fox comes in.

Understood. It does give the Suns a nice balance of established rotation pieces and an upside piece in Dillingham.

As for Fox on the Wolves, the one nit-pick is his 3-point shooting. Seems like someone teams will provide a ton of help off of in the playoffs in order to close Ant's driving lanes. But there is a lot he's really good at it too.

Every time Fox plays the Wolves I feel like he absolutely tears us apart. Am I alone in that? His first step explosion is unreal, I see some of that with Dillingham.

I feel the same way lol.

Here's my question- would a player like Fox alleviate or exacerbate Rudy poor fit with the team offensively? I don't know enough about his game to say one way or another, but I'm concerned that spacing would still be an issue since Fox isn't a great 3 point shooter (in fact he's a very poor one)

I personally still have a lot of faith in Dillingham, but a Fox/Ant backcourt is an exciting one

[TheFuture]

Understood. It does give the Suns a nice balance of established rotation pieces and an upside piece in Dillingham.

As for Fox on the Wolves, the one nit-pick is his 3-point shooting. Seems like someone teams will provide a ton of help off of in the playoffs in order to close Ant's driving lanes. But there is a lot he's really good at it too.

Every time Fox plays the Wolves I feel like he absolutely tears us apart. Am I alone in that? His first step explosion is unreal, I see some of that with Dillingham.

I feel the same way lol.

Here's my question- would a player like Fox alleviate or exacerbate Rudy poor fit with the team offensively? I don't know enough about his game to say one way or another, but I'm concerned that spacing would still be an issue since Fox isn't a great 3 point shooter (in fact he's a very poor one)

I personally still have a lot of faith in Dillingham, but a Fox/Ant backcourt is an exciting one

Yeah, it's a tough tell. I think the debate on where Dillingham falls is one year too early. There is just too little tape on him. It's a trade the mystery box while others may still be highly intrigued, hold onto that box and hope it is brilliant, or you hold and get stuck with a rotten egg conundrum. Who knows, and Finch/TC/Staff/players are the only ones who know what Dillingham has.

[Lipoli390]

Every time Fox plays the Wolves I feel like he absolutely tears us apart. Am I alone in that? His first step explosion is unreal, I see some of that with Dillingham.

I feel the same way lol.

Here's my question- would a player like Fox alleviate or exacerbate Rudy poor fit with the team offensively? I don't know enough about his game to say one way or another, but I'm concerned that spacing would still be an issue since Fox isn't a great 3 point shooter (in fact he's a very poor one)

I personally still have a lot of faith in Dillingham, but a Fox/Ant backcourt is an exciting one

Yeah, it's a tough tell. I think the debate on where Dillingham falls is one year too early. There is just too little tape on him. It's a trade the mystery box while others may still be highly intrigued, hold onto that box and hope it is brilliant, or you hold and get stuck with a rotten egg conundrum. Who knows, and Finch/TC/Staff/players are the only ones who know what Dillingham has.

Yep. It’s hard to know how players drafted at age 19 with only one year of college will pan out in the NBA. I have a high level of confidence that he’ll be really good. Watching videos and looking at their basic physical data (measurements, athletic testing), Rob appears to have Garland’s perimeter shooting prowess but with more explosiveness while appearing to have Fox’s athleticism but a much better 3-point shot. All three are about the same size.

Rob didn’t have enough playing time with the Wolves to give any weight one way or the other t his NBA stats. But he averaged 23.3 minutes at Kentucky where he compiled some really impressive stats, averaging 15.2 points, 4 assists, and 3 rebounds while hitting 47.5% of his FGAs and 44.4% of his significant 4.5 3-point attempts per game. Your rarely find college freshman who put up those kinds of numbers and those who do tend to have a lot of NBA success. For comparison, Fox averaged 16.7 points, 4.6 assists, and 4 rebounds in nearly 30 minutes per game while shooting 48% from the field and only 24.6% from behind the arc. As a Freshman playing 34 minutes per game, Ja Morant averaged 12.7 points, 6.3 assists, and 6.5 rebounds while hitting 46% of his FGAs and 30.7% of his threes.

It’s impossible to know how a young player like Rob will ultimately pan out but I’ll put some big money on Dilly becoming at least a really good starting PG and perhaps more. It’s true that TC and the Wolves staff know more about Dilly than we do. But I only put so much trust in the judgment of NBA front office executives when it comes to decisions about young players. We’ve recently seen front office executives trading away young players like SGA and Haliburton even though they and their coaching staffs saw those players up close for an extended time. I still remember the Wolves letting Chauncey Billups go in favor of the injury prone veteran, Terrell Brandon. We all know what Chauncey went on to do. Sometimes we give way too much credit to the acumen of NBA basketball executives. As I see it, there is only one truly elite NBA basketball executive and his name is Sam Presti. And even he makes mistakes.

I really like Fox and pairing him with Ant would be exciting and could be really effective. But I’d roll with Dilly as well as TSJ and Clark together with Ant, Jaden and Naz, as our core guys going forward. TC should be focused on blending those players together and adding players who will enhance and be enhanced by that core group. I can see DDV in the mix going forward. Maybe we stay with Rudy and phase down his minutes over time. I don’t see keeping Randle long term because I think Naz would leave if we did.

Let’s go young and fast like OKC and Indiana.

[AussieWolf3]

I love the positivity on Rob lip, that is all very encouraging stuff