BloopOracle wrote:gotta take Markkanen if he's there and isaac is gone, he's too lethal in today's game especially with KAT
Can he guard Durant, kawhi or anyone really when teams go small in the playoffs.
I have zero interest in a guy who is a bad rebounder for his position. Will be mostly useless when teams go small because he can't guard them/He is not taking KAT spot in small ball lineups. And like LST said his one skill he has he was below average for 3+ months
When teams go small who exactly is going to guard him though? Viewing these playoffs has started to push me more towards individual offense versus individual defense like someone else said on this board I would rather try to dictate against the other team.
Oh, I think teams will gladly put a smaller player on him defensively and require him to make contested post-ups. Look at how Ryan Anderson was rendered pretty useless once San Antonio put a wing on him.
I'm not a Markkanen guy but let's say he was at least as good of a shooter and Anderson he is quite a bit taller if the player isn't very big it may be easy for him to shoot any jumper over them. Givony did point out on a recent podcast that he came over to the US from Finland and was pretty successful when typically international players have a bit of a transition period adjusting to the US game and being somewhere new.
monsterpile wrote:Interesting article on some draft expert dude that has his own draft service and he has NBA teams and othe teams pay for his services. He has some interesting comments on a couple prospects.
Yes, very interesting article. Thanks for posting. This guys seems pretty sharp. The article says he has 5 guys with top 3 grades among this year's prospects. The article lists four of them: Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Isaac. I'm not surprised by that list. The article leaves off the 5th because it's a player no one else has listed as a top level pick. The question of the days is: Who do you think that 5th player with a top 3 grade is?
monsterpile wrote:Interesting article on some draft expert dude that has his own draft service and he has NBA teams and othe teams pay for his services. He has some interesting comments on a couple prospects.
Yes, very interesting article. Thanks for posting. This guys seems pretty sharp. The article says he has 5 guys with top 3 grades among this year's prospects. The article lists four of them: Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Isaac. I'm not surprised by that list. The article leaves off the 5th because it's a player no one else has listed as a top level pick. The question of the days is: Who do you think that 5th player with a top 3 grade is?
monsterpile wrote:Interesting article on some draft expert dude that has his own draft service and he has NBA teams and othe teams pay for his services. He has some interesting comments on a couple prospects.
Yes, very interesting article. Thanks for posting. This guys seems pretty sharp. The article says he has 5 guys with top 3 grades among this year's prospects. The article lists four of them: Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Isaac. I'm not surprised by that list. The article leaves off the 5th because it's a player no one else has listed as a top level pick. The question of the days is: Who do you think that 5th player with a top 3 grade is?
monsterpile wrote:Interesting article on some draft expert dude that has his own draft service and he has NBA teams and othe teams pay for his services. He has some interesting comments on a couple prospects.
Yes, very interesting article. Thanks for posting. This guys seems pretty sharp. The article says he has 5 guys with top 3 grades among this year's prospects. The article lists four of them: Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Isaac. I'm not surprised by that list. The article leaves off the 5th because it's a player no one else has listed as a top level pick. The question of the days is: Who do you think that 5th player with a top 3 grade is?
I suspect it is Malik Monk. If the three SFs are off the board at #7, I take Monk and run. People are dismissing him because of his head-to-toe height. But his other physical traits are comparable (or better) to so many other players that we seem to like - Zach, Redick, Jamal Murray. And his basketball numbers are comparable or better as well.
I see so many teams that can throw guys onto the court and they make shots. We don't have enough players that do that. Monk can make shots.
monsterpile wrote:Interesting article on some draft expert dude that has his own draft service and he has NBA teams and othe teams pay for his services. He has some interesting comments on a couple prospects.
Yes, very interesting article. Thanks for posting. This guys seems pretty sharp. The article says he has 5 guys with top 3 grades among this year's prospects. The article lists four of them: Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Isaac. I'm not surprised by that list. The article leaves off the 5th because it's a player no one else has listed as a top level pick. The question of the days is: Who do you think that 5th player with a top 3 grade is?
I suspect it is Malik Monk. If the three SFs are off the board at #7, I take Monk and run. People are dismissing him because of his head-to-toe height. But his other physical traits are comparable (or better) to so many other players that we seem to like - Zach, Redick, Jamal Murray. And his basketball numbers are comparable or better as well.
I see so many teams that can throw guys onto the court and they make shots. We don't have enough players that do that. Monk can make shots.
You make a good case for Monk, Tim. But I don't think that's the guy this draft guru has in mind as one of 5 guys with a top 3 grade. I don't see Monk in the same talent category as those other four.
monsterpile wrote:Interesting article on some draft expert dude that has his own draft service and he has NBA teams and othe teams pay for his services. He has some interesting comments on a couple prospects.
Yes, very interesting article. Thanks for posting. This guys seems pretty sharp. The article says he has 5 guys with top 3 grades among this year's prospects. The article lists four of them: Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Isaac. I'm not surprised by that list. The article leaves off the 5th because it's a player no one else has listed as a top level pick. The question of the days is: Who do you think that 5th player with a top 3 grade is?
I suspect it is Malik Monk. If the three SFs are off the board at #7, I take Monk and run. People are dismissing him because of his head-to-toe height. But his other physical traits are comparable (or better) to so many other players that we seem to like - Zach, Redick, Jamal Murray. And his basketball numbers are comparable or better as well.
I see so many teams that can throw guys onto the court and they make shots. We don't have enough players that do that. Monk can make shots.
You make a good case for Monk, Tim. But I don't think that's the guy this draft guru has in mind as one of 5 guys with a top 3 grade. I don't see Monk in the same talent category as those other four.
Yeah, you are probably right. I am having a hard time being subjective. Better verticals than Zach. Better assist numbers than Murray. Decent steal and block numbers for a SG. Terrific 2-point and 3-point shooting percentages.
But I have seen him as high as #3 on some mock drafts, so he probably is not that 5th guy...
monsterpile wrote:Interesting article on some draft expert dude that has his own draft service and he has NBA teams and othe teams pay for his services. He has some interesting comments on a couple prospects.
Yes, very interesting article. Thanks for posting. This guys seems pretty sharp. The article says he has 5 guys with top 3 grades among this year's prospects. The article lists four of them: Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Isaac. I'm not surprised by that list. The article leaves off the 5th because it's a player no one else has listed as a top level pick. The question of the days is: Who do you think that 5th player with a top 3 grade is?
I suspect it is Malik Monk. If the three SFs are off the board at #7, I take Monk and run. People are dismissing him because of his head-to-toe height. But his other physical traits are comparable (or better) to so many other players that we seem to like - Zach, Redick, Jamal Murray. And his basketball numbers are comparable or better as well.
I see so many teams that can throw guys onto the court and they make shots. We don't have enough players that do that. Monk can make shots.
You make a good case for Monk, Tim. But I don't think that's the guy this draft guru has in mind as one of 5 guys with a top 3 grade. I don't see Monk in the same talent category as those other four.
Yeah, you are probably right. I am having a hard time being subjective. Better verticals than Zach. Better assist numbers than Murray. Decent steal and block numbers for a SG. Terrific 2-point and 3-point shooting percentages.
But I have seen him as high as #3 on some mock drafts, so he probably is not that 5th guy...
Frank is a good pick as the guy. I forgot about that tidbit. If you read this article he said he doesn't look at any of the other draft guys until after he is all done and then he has an intern check the other sites. I'd guess it's a guy that's generally been outside the top 7 or more for a while so Frank would make sense. I wonder if Dennis Smith makes more sense than Monk.
I don't think Monk is anywhere near the athlete Lavine was coming out of college I don't care how high he jumped. Lavine had special athletic abilities you could see it when he played. On top of that he is a legit sized SG and Monk os more like a PG. I don't think Monk has a bad dribble drive game but it's just ok. For him to be really good it has to be a lot better. What I have read about Monk is that he did care about D in college and has good lateral quickness etc so it's not like he sucked and now we have to hope that not only does he have to defend guys when he is smaller he has to actually care/get better than bad at defense. If you can pair him with a big PG so he can guard PGs that would make him really valuable. That's why he makes tons of sense for the Sixers. The more I think about him the more ai feel like he is right there with Markkanen in that they are shooters with flaws. I'd hope we can pick someone else. Either guy could end up improving in a couple areas and being good. These guys are young and it's so much about projection and let's be honest...belief.
Also it's interesting what he said about Isaac with some foot and hip issues. He still has him as a top 5 guy but is worried about whether he makes it or not. The article that is linked to in the above article where he runs through I think it is 10 of the top guys and their fit for the Sixers was interesting too.
monsterpile wrote:Interesting article on some draft expert dude that has his own draft service and he has NBA teams and othe teams pay for his services. He has some interesting comments on a couple prospects.
Yes, very interesting article. Thanks for posting. This guys seems pretty sharp. The article says he has 5 guys with top 3 grades among this year's prospects. The article lists four of them: Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Isaac. I'm not surprised by that list. The article leaves off the 5th because it's a player no one else has listed as a top level pick. The question of the days is: Who do you think that 5th player with a top 3 grade is?
I bet its that foreign PG Frank
That would be my guess too.
Maybe. I seriously would consider Frank at 7 if all 3 top wings are gone. He has incredible length for a guard. I thought Dunn had great length but his wingspan is 2-3 inches longer.
A couple more wild cards would be Giles, if healthy, he would be near the top and Hartenstein, maybe because he's one of those international guys where I hear glimpses of positives but don't feel I know the complete picture with him.
It could be Collins Imo. I think people are really undervaluing what he did because of the lack of minutes and the conference he played in, but the advanced stats have him almost on par with Towns who only played 4 more MPG's in college. He has legit size and athleticism to go with an aggressive mentality that led to very efficient numbers. Then when the competition ramped up in the tournament he stepped up and looked as good or better than multiple other top prospects. I don't really understand his fall in the draft so I'd be curious why he's a guy who's dropping. I'm actually comfortable with trading down in the draft to pick him up and get something else at this point. He seems almost like the perfect modern day NBA center who just needs to add some weight and reduce the fouls.
