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Re: Wolves Free Agent & Trade Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:16 pm
by Monster
JasonIsDaMan wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:Portis was the guy I wanted the Wolves to sign when Rosas instead decided to re-sign Juancho. Portis would be a great fit for the Wolves and, at the time, he was definitely gettable. But I don't see him signing with the Wolves now. I suspect he'll stay in Milwaukee. He loves it there and they love him. They have his Bird rights, so they're not limited on what they can pay him. So the Portis ship has sailed. If we're looking to add a big, here are what I'd consider the realistic options that might be worth pursuing:

1. Sign one of the following free agents: Jalen Smith, Hartenstein Montrezl Harrell, Andre Drummond or JaVale McGee

2. Trade Beasley and Naz (maybe with a future pick) for Myles Turner, Richaun Holmes, Steven Adams, or Jonathan Isaac.

3. Trade Naz Reid and maybe a 2nd-round pick for Alex Len


FWIW Lawrence Frank's said their top priority was resigning their FAs. I would think to keep Hartenstein they would have to use an exception to do it.

If the Wolves want Alex Len they should be able to get him by just taking him in with a trade exception and sending the Kings the rights to Paulo Prestes or something. I can't imagine giving up anything of value to trade for Alex Len. I'm not saying he sucks but he isn't that much better than someone who will be available for the vet min. One guy I don't think anyone has mentioned in a while is Wille Cauley Stein.


There's a reason I haven't mentioned WCS. He's not very good. Among other things, he's a pretty poor rebounder and that's what we need. Alex Len for our trade exception sounds fine to me if we can't sign or trade for one of the others I listed. I think we'd need to give up a little more than just the trade exception.


Attention Board: It is OK to not think that every non-wolf is automatically better than every Wolf.

Monster, I like you, but if it was going to happen for WCS, it would have. He's 28, and hasn't averaged 20 min. in two seasons. But hey, I love WCS. Comes from the nicest Kansas City suburb. Goes to Duke. Lots of advantages many of us have will never have. And to celebrate his luck/success/opportunities, he runs out and gets 800 neck tattoos. I'm looking forward to Zach Parise's neck tattoo phase.


First of all WCS didn't go to Duke. It seems like it should be pretty easy to remember where he went to college but I guess not.

Next do you know why WCS didn't play much last year? Probably not or you would have said something. Last year the Mavs a fairly smart NBA team thought he was valuable enough to pick up his team option for around 4 million. It was not that long ago WCS was considered one the better rim protectors in the NBA. There were plenty of people on this board taking about acquiring him less than 12 months ago because we had no true centers on the roster

When I am suggesting considering WCS (if he is healthy and good to go after whatever kept him from playing for months of season last year) then it's for a guy signing for the vet min maybe not even a fully guaranteed deal. I'm suggesting a guy that's a backup/depth guy that costs basically nothing as opposed to trading an asset to get Alex Len who is also just a backup. For the record I'm pretty sure I said the same thing about the idea of trading for WCS last year. Sign a vet min guy there are players available that can play for cheap. We found that out even more this last season when teams were signing guys that hadn't played for years and some of them played quite competently

Re: Wolves Free Agent & Trade Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:33 pm
by Lipoli390
Camden wrote:
"I'm obviously a strong believer in the vaccine," Towns said, via NJ.com. "I've been through so much and it would be kind of contradictory to not be on the pro-vaccine side. But what I will say is that I believe in choice and I like to give people their choice and I have no problem with people having their choice."

"They make their own decisions on their own bodies and their own families. I have no ill will towards that," Towns said, via NJ.com. "The only thing I would say is just don't give me a bulls**t excuse why [you don't get the vaccine] ... You don't want to do it, that's your choice."


Karl-Anthony Towns has been very transparent about how he feels on this topic from the very beginning. He's certainly felt the effects of the virus more than a lot of people, and even he's said that it's a personal choice. That should be the end of it. I have to admit that it was [and still is] annoying to see people use Towns and his family's pain as some sort of example. How much clearer could he be?


I agree, Cam. I don't see Towns or anyone else on the Wolves having any problem with Isaac if the Wolves acquire him. The only issue with Isaac the Wolves should be concerned about is his durability. That's a major concern, but that's it. I think he's a good kid with deeply held convictions and the courage of those convictions. Like any 20 year old he's struggling to understand how to fit in different environments with different people. So far, I think he's handled himself well.

Re: Wolves Free Agent & Trade Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:41 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:
"I'm obviously a strong believer in the vaccine," Towns said, via NJ.com. "I've been through so much and it would be kind of contradictory to not be on the pro-vaccine side. But what I will say is that I believe in choice and I like to give people their choice and I have no problem with people having their choice."

"They make their own decisions on their own bodies and their own families. I have no ill will towards that," Towns said, via NJ.com. "The only thing I would say is just don't give me a bulls**t excuse why [you don't get the vaccine] ... You don't want to do it, that's your choice."


Karl-Anthony Towns has been very transparent about how he feels on this topic from the very beginning. He's certainly felt the effects of the virus more than a lot of people, and even he's said that it's a personal choice. That should be the end of it. I have to admit that it was [and still is] annoying to see people use Towns and his family's pain as some sort of example. How much clearer could he be?


I agree, Cam. I don't see Towns or anyone else on the Wolves having any problem with Isaac if the Wolves acquire him. The only issue with Isaac the Wolves should be concerned about is his durability. That's a major concern, but that's it. I think he's a good kid with deeply held convictions and the courage of those convictions. Like any 20 year old he's struggling to understand how to fit in different environments with different people. So far, I think he's handled himself well.



Sure.

But he'd be pretty lame to party with during the Wolves next team-chemistry-building trip to the Bahamas.

Re: Wolves Free Agent & Trade Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 4:15 pm
by Lipoli390
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
Camden wrote:
"I'm obviously a strong believer in the vaccine," Towns said, via NJ.com. "I've been through so much and it would be kind of contradictory to not be on the pro-vaccine side. But what I will say is that I believe in choice and I like to give people their choice and I have no problem with people having their choice."

"They make their own decisions on their own bodies and their own families. I have no ill will towards that," Towns said, via NJ.com. "The only thing I would say is just don't give me a bulls**t excuse why [you don't get the vaccine] ... You don't want to do it, that's your choice."


Karl-Anthony Towns has been very transparent about how he feels on this topic from the very beginning. He's certainly felt the effects of the virus more than a lot of people, and even he's said that it's a personal choice. That should be the end of it. I have to admit that it was [and still is] annoying to see people use Towns and his family's pain as some sort of example. How much clearer could he be?


I agree, Cam. I don't see Towns or anyone else on the Wolves having any problem with Isaac if the Wolves acquire him. The only issue with Isaac the Wolves should be concerned about is his durability. That's a major concern, but that's it. I think he's a good kid with deeply held convictions and the courage of those convictions. Like any 20 year old he's struggling to understand how to fit in different environments with different people. So far, I think he's handled himself well.



Sure.

But he'd be pretty lame to party with during the Wolves next team-chemistry-building trip to the Bahamas.


Lol.

Re: Wolves Free Agent & Trade Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:07 pm
by thedoper
If the Lakers made AC Green work we shouldn't have a problem with someone who works hard and does their job. Health is a way bigger concern with Issac in my opinion.

Re: Wolves Free Agent & Trade Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:45 pm
by Q-is-here
thedoper wrote:If the Lakers made AC Green work we shouldn't have a problem with someone who works hard and does their job. Health is a way bigger concern with Issac in my opinion.


You mean like Vando?

Re: Wolves Free Agent & Trade Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:23 pm
by thedoper
Q-was-here wrote:
thedoper wrote:If the Lakers made AC Green work we shouldn't have a problem with someone who works hard and does their job. Health is a way bigger concern with Issac in my opinion.


You mean like Vando?


Love Vando. Wish he could box out, catch the ball, and score.

Re: Wolves Free Agent & Trade Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:19 pm
by Lipoli390
Adrian Wojnarowski: Chicago Bulls center Tony Bradley is exercising his $2M player option for next season, sources tell ESPN. - via Twitter wojespn

Further confirmation that it's a buyer's market for bigs in the NBA. Tony Bradley isn't a stiff. He's a solid young mobile big who has great length and probably more upside. Yet, he didn't even test the free-agent waters, choosing instead to re-sign with his current team for around the League minimum. Even if we assume that Nurkic stays in Portland as expected, there are still be a lot of quality free agent bigs available, which means a large supply of bigs relative to the limited demand for bigs in today's NBA. With the full $10M MLE and full $4M BAE to spend, the Wolves have the financial means to sign any of the free-agent bigs other than Nurkic. It's just a matter of who the Wolves want and the pitch they make to that player. Even with Kessler, the Wolves can pitch a genuine opportunity to start alongside KAT to Hartenstein or Jalen Smith as well as the opportunity to join a young playoff team on the rise.

I see no reason for the Wolves to give up any quality assets to trade for a big. They have ample free agent alternatives. They use need to find and recruit the right one.

Re: Wolves Free Agent & Trade Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:29 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
I'm surprised by Tony Bradley's decision, Lip. I thought he played his way into a bigger deal this off-season. It would appear to be a buyer's market indeed. We'll see if Tim Connelly and the front office can take advantage of it.

Re: Wolves Free Agent & Trade Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:31 pm
by KG4Ever
Hey Lip, how much money do the Wolves have to pursue Hartenstein or Jalen Smith?