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Love this deal. We needed a long term 4 to grow with KAT. Really think the two of them are great compliments. I'm on board.

monsterpile wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:

worldK wrote:Okay deal for us. Jimmy is a cancer and needed to be moved. Covington and saric are role players but good ones on great deals. We can use them or package their favoreable contracts with others.

Next move is to move taj and teague. Dont think they fit with the team anymore.

Teague has no chemistry with towns and wiggins. They just dont mesh. Rose has been the best pg on the team this season and I dont want to see him back as backup sg. Okogie should be the backup sg and rose/tyus as the pgs.

We are 4-9 and near bottom in the west. We are. It making the playoffs this year. Time to try to get value for teague and taj while we can.

Agreed, if we can get something of value for them do it. Neither is the future and who cares about this season. We are in rebuild mode.

Now that the psycho Butler is gone, we can probably even play some decent ball towards the end of the year once these guys gel a bit. Then fire Thibs. Or fire him now. lol

Might as well get something out of Thibs since there is no obvious answers as coach available. Let's see how things go with the new guys. I'm fine moving Taj or Teague if there is value but I kinda doubt at this point that will happen. Teague I could see maybe the Suns acquiring him if he gets back healthy. I think it's worthwhile to see how this new teams gell together. There is real talent here and the team just got deeper. It's possible they go a run and get back to .500. Saric and Covington could be guys that add even more pace and space to a team that's already moved that direction. It's gonna be really interesting how Thibs manages Taj Saric Tolliver and Dieng.

I want more pace and space as well but teague just doesn not play that style. Rose plays a lot faster and moves the ball quicker when he is running the team. Teague needs to go. Suns and magic are the two teams that might be interested.

If we cant move taj then i want him to come off the bench for us as the backup center and move dieng out of the rotation. Dieng's defense is horrible and I see taj as the better center option of the two even if he is smaller. Start saric and have tolliver as backup pf and covington get some backup pf minutes as well.

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:

worldK wrote:Okay deal for us. Jimmy is a cancer and needed to be moved. Covington and saric are role players but good ones on great deals. We can use them or package their favoreable contracts with others.

Next move is to move taj and teague. Dont think they fit with the team anymore.

Teague has no chemistry with towns and wiggins. They just dont mesh. Rose has been the best pg on the team this season and I dont want to see him back as backup sg. Okogie should be the backup sg and rose/tyus as the pgs.

We are 4-9 and near bottom in the west. We are. It making the playoffs this year. Time to try to get value for teague and taj while we can.

Agreed, if we can get something of value for them do it. Neither is the future and who cares about this season. We are in rebuild mode.

Now that the psycho Butler is gone, we can probably even play some decent ball towards the end of the year once these guys gel a bit. Then fire Thibs. Or fire him now. lol

It might take a month before we find out, but I also think we can play some decent ball later this season. As Q indicated, I think our biggest need is a big who brings a defensive presence and can give us 25 minutes. We have the assets now to find that type of guy.

I agree, however once you move KAT to the 4 you no longer have the premium mismatch where Towns can drag their big out of the paint and drain 3's on offense. So I wonder if a drop in offense would make up for a boost in defense?

Is there a big who can defend, rebound, protect the rim and still spread the floor? Anthony Davis? I think I might be asking for too much.

Saying that, rebounding and defense have been our achilles heel in most losses the last couple years. So I don't know what the solution is.

WildWolf2813 wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:

WildWolf2813 wrote:

Q12543 wrote:I can see KAT and Saric ending a lot of halves/games together as a pair, but I still think KAT needs a true big man that can give us 20-25 MPG and help on the boards and clog the paint. Saric/Embiid works defensively because Embiid is a monster. KAT unfortunately doesn't offer up the same level of resistance and Saric certainly doesn't. Nice piece, but not a great fit defensively IMO.

Which is why either Saric is a 6th man here too or he's gotta be shopped for a PG (as I said earlier, I don't believe the PG of the future is on this team).

The 2 main needs of the Wolves now just don't exist much in the 2019 draft which sucks. Even Zion for all the talent he has just doesn't compliment Towns well.

At this point I'm rooting like hell for someone Jaylen Hands to play well enough to justify a lottery selection on him for PG.

C Towns /Dieng
PF ??? /Saric
SF Covington /Beita-Diop
SG Wiggins /Okogie (I hope this flips)
PG Hands /Teodosic or Dinwiddie

I'm pretty sure Zion will be elite on any team. He's like a combination of young Lebron and young Barkley.

but does he fit defensively? if not, you're gonna have to choose between him and Towns

I think it's too early to tell if he will be a great defender or not in the NBA. He certainly has the athletic ability to do so.

worldK wrote:

monsterpile wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:

worldK wrote:Okay deal for us. Jimmy is a cancer and needed to be moved. Covington and saric are role players but good ones on great deals. We can use them or package their favoreable contracts with others.

Next move is to move taj and teague. Dont think they fit with the team anymore.

Teague has no chemistry with towns and wiggins. They just dont mesh. Rose has been the best pg on the team this season and I dont want to see him back as backup sg. Okogie should be the backup sg and rose/tyus as the pgs.

We are 4-9 and near bottom in the west. We are. It making the playoffs this year. Time to try to get value for teague and taj while we can.

Agreed, if we can get something of value for them do it. Neither is the future and who cares about this season. We are in rebuild mode.

Now that the psycho Butler is gone, we can probably even play some decent ball towards the end of the year once these guys gel a bit. Then fire Thibs. Or fire him now. lol

Might as well get something out of Thibs since there is no obvious answers as coach available. Let's see how things go with the new guys. I'm fine moving Taj or Teague if there is value but I kinda doubt at this point that will happen. Teague I could see maybe the Suns acquiring him if he gets back healthy. I think it's worthwhile to see how this new teams gell together. There is real talent here and the team just got deeper. It's possible they go a run and get back to .500. Saric and Covington could be guys that add even more pace and space to a team that's already moved that direction. It's gonna be really interesting how Thibs manages Taj Saric Tolliver and Dieng.

I want more pace and space as well but teague just doesn not play that style. Rose plays a lot faster and moves the ball quicker when he is running the team. Teague needs to go. Suns and magic are the two teams that might be interested.

If we cant move taj then i want him to come off the bench for us as the backup center and move dieng out of the rotation. Dieng's defense is horrible and I see taj as the better center option of the two even if he is smaller. Start saric and have tolliver as backup pf and covington get some backup pf minutes as well.

I absolutely agree Rose pushes the pace more than Teague but Teague was getting the ball up the floor early in the season also. Really the thing is everyone was getting up the floor. Honestly they have been a little slower lately at times guys were looking tired etc. Remember Teague was the guy pining for this team to get up and go later in the season last year. The guy that gets the ball up the floor the slowest the PG types...is Tyus. Once the offense starts then it's different.

If we can actually get some value for Teague then great. I'm not sure that's out there though at this point. Dealing Teague with just Tyus left at PG with hardly any shot creating guards if Rose get hurt sounds frightening. Even if you are just playing for the future not having someone kinda decent running the point for a chunk of the season hurts how other guys can develop. Maybe there is a half decent guy we can sign in FA that's available or get a backup PG in the Teague deal. I'd like to see what this group can do for a few games. I doubt we are passing up on some amazing return for an injured Teague right now and I value him about as high as anyone here.

I like the idea of Taj as the backup center. I do think Dieng has some usefulness at times though. His rebounding numbers are pretty good. Sometimes even though he is far from perfect his size and length can help on that aspect. If he is the worst big in the rotation...that's not a bad thing. Unless this team just gets on a sweet roll and is headed toward the playoffs so you don't want to mess with anything (possible not likely) ideally Taj or Tolliver gets moved before the trade deadline for something. Tolliver with the lower salary might actually b easier to move...as long as he agrees to the trade.

WolvesFan21 wrote:

CoolBreeze44 wrote:

WolvesFan21 wrote:

worldK wrote:Okay deal for us. Jimmy is a cancer and needed to be moved. Covington and saric are role players but good ones on great deals. We can use them or package their favoreable contracts with others.

Next move is to move taj and teague. Dont think they fit with the team anymore.

Teague has no chemistry with towns and wiggins. They just dont mesh. Rose has been the best pg on the team this season and I dont want to see him back as backup sg. Okogie should be the backup sg and rose/tyus as the pgs.

We are 4-9 and near bottom in the west. We are. It making the playoffs this year. Time to try to get value for teague and taj while we can.

Agreed, if we can get something of value for them do it. Neither is the future and who cares about this season. We are in rebuild mode.

Now that the psycho Butler is gone, we can probably even play some decent ball towards the end of the year once these guys gel a bit. Then fire Thibs. Or fire him now. lol

It might take a month before we find out, but I also think we can play some decent ball later this season. As Q indicated, I think our biggest need is a big who brings a defensive presence and can give us 25 minutes. We have the assets now to find that type of guy.

I agree, however once you move KAT to the 4 you no longer have the premium mismatch where Towns can drag their big out of the paint and drain 3's on offense. So I wonder if a drop in offense would make up for a boost in defense?

Is there a big who can defend, rebound, protect the rim and still spread the floor? Anthony Davis? I think I might be asking for too much.

Saying that, rebounding and defense have been our achilles heel in most losses the last couple years. So I don't know what the solution is.

KAT just has to anchor the defense. That's all there is to it. No excuses. All the other top bigs in the league are doing it. They don't need people covering for them. If you get lucky enough to take Zion you take him and worry about fit later. He's a special player. You don't pass those up because your Center can't anchor a defense.

Jon k said we took deal cause miami took richardson off table. Thibs the gift that keeps screwing up every god damn thing. Why Taylor hasnt fired him is beyond me. Its why we are the laughingstock organization of the nba

I can be a spiteful SOB, so I'm not ashamed to admit I will now be cheering against the 76ers. Nothing would make me happier than to see Butler fail in Philly. They look pretty good on paper, but they also have 2 stars in Embiid and Butler who have the potential to miss a lot of games. We'll have to see how it turns out.
Now we have to see what Glen decides to do with Thibs, and if KAT's pouting stops now that Butler is gone. Covington will help our defense, and he and Saric could make us a much better 3-point team. It's difficult to get excited about this deal, but it's better than any of the other deals that were rumored.

crazysauce wrote:Jon k said we took deal cause miami took richardson off table. Thibs the gift that keeps screwing up every god damn thing. Why Taylor hasnt fired him is beyond me. Its why we are the laughingstock organization of the nba

Well the Heat can enjoy complete mediocrity with that team. Riley played himself.

longstrangetrip wrote:I can be a spiteful SOB, so I'm not ashamed to admit I will now be cheering against the 76ers. Nothing would make me happier than to see Butler fail in Philly. They look pretty good on paper, but they also have 2 stars in Embiid and Butler who have the potential to miss a lot of games. We'll have to see how it turns out.
Now we have to see what Glen decides to do with Thibs, and if KAT's pouting stops now that Butler is gone. Covington will help our defense, and he and Saric could make us a much better 3-point team. It's difficult to get excited about this deal, but it's better than any of the other deals that were rumored.

Its my fourth favorite deal after the Houston 4 first rounders, JRich, Whiteside and a 1st or an Otto Porter centered deal. So kind of mediocre result. Would rather have had a good first round pick over Saric, but I do like Covington.

I'm ok with KAT pouting if it would help expidite Thibs being fired.