If we landed the #1 (or #2) pick, what would you do?

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Duke13 wrote:The twin tower offenses of the 90's are gone gentlemen. A Belly type player is the perfect fit next to KAT. Whether it is Belly or not, that type of player is who you want. Sam would love to go back to his Indiana days with Smits and the Davis bros, that's the scary thing with Sam, he's not only clueless but he's stubborn. It took him this long to move Wig to the 3 line instead of just posting him up and have everyone watch him on offense. What lineups did we play during the GS game? Thank you


Man that slow down twin tower offense the spurs have run this year has really sucked
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Duke13 wrote:The twin tower offenses of the 90's are gone gentlemen. A Belly type player is the perfect fit next to KAT. Whether it is Belly or not, that type of player is who you want. Sam would love to go back to his Indiana days with Smits and the Davis bros, that's the scary thing with Sam, he's not only clueless but he's stubborn. It took him this long to move Wig to the 3 line instead of just posting him up and have everyone watch him on offense. What lineups did we play during the GS game? Thank you


Lamarcus Aldridge and Tim Duncan would probably disagree with your statement and they're on a team who might actually be better than the Warriors. Blake Griffin and DJ would also probably disagree with you and they're a top 5 team in the league. Both of them are top level teams with 4's who don't hit 3's and win by controlling the boards and executing in the half-court. Also, who says Towns can't be the stretch 4 you are referring to and we bring in a Favors to defend opposing C's and give us some beef down low so we don't get pounded on the boards so much? Towns was switching onto Curry and stifled him a couple times. He can play either 4 or 5.
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Clippers have killed it in the playoffs haven't they. Spurs best lineup is when Leonard plays the 4. Also Griffin is just a bit more versitile than someone like Favors.
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I'll let you morons waste your time talking about these hypothetical trades that will never happen.
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Duke13 wrote:I'll let you morons waste your time talking about these hypothetical trades that will never happen.


Very charming Duke. When a reasonable debate and disagreement ensues, insult everyone. Donald Trump wants your vote!
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Duke13 wrote:I'll let you morons waste your time talking about these hypothetical trades that will never happen.


Oh - that just tears it! Them's fight'n words you sombitch!
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AbeVigodaLive wrote:
kurrdog53 wrote:I still say, going back to my original thought, that if we land one of these picks and IF we trade, it should be for an established player (Favors, Crowder, someone) PLUS a top 10 draft pick and more, if we can get a team to give up another bench player.

I hate to give up on a potential star, but we have 3 and do not want to see anyone get upset and leave or have their progress hindered. Currently, we have a chemistry and/or nucleus that is strong going forward. The front office needs to have a good summer this year and next to determine the path of this franchise.

Question:
Have we ever seen a team with 4+ all-star caliber players work? We have seen Big 3's (Miami, Cleveland, Clippers). Outside of San Antonio (Aldridge, Leonard and aging vets like Duncan, Parker and Ginobili), I am really leery. Is too much talent a curse. We might be damned if we do, damned if we don't.




All depends if the players buy in or not.

It's great if they all pan out, but it's unlikely all of them will to the most optimistic expectations. Likewise, it might be unprecedented for 4 young guys to compromise their star status/game/even money at this age for the good of the team. That's the stuff that veterans who have $100+M in the bank are more likely to do.

By the way, there needs to be good fortune along the way, too. For example, Curry is making only $11M right now. When the best player doesn't have to be the highest paid for multiple seasons... the team can do wonderful things.


It's not about having too much talent as much as it is having too many guys whose primary talent is scoring points. Wiggins and LaVine especially are most effective when scoring. KAT is so damn gifted offensively he can't help but get a lot of touches. And these three will only get better, as scorers tend to peak in years ~ 4-8.

If you look at some past champions, some of their best players were not scorers, yet they were still integral to winning a title: Dennis Rodman with the Bulls; Ben Wallace with the Pistons; Kidd with Dallas; Green with Golden State.

So to me, success is just as much about building the right mix of talent vs. the volume of talent.

That's why guys like Crowder, Favors, Horford, Batum, Harrison Barnes, and others bandied about here resonates with a lot of us. We're starting to see the right foundation built, to the point where team fit and need is becoming a higher priority.
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Q12543 wrote:
It's not about having too much talent as much as it is having too many guys whose primary talent is scoring points. Wiggins and LaVine especially are most effective when scoring. KAT is so damn gifted offensively he can't help but get a lot of touches. And these three will only get better, as scorers tend to peak in years ~ 4-8.

If you look at some past champions, some of their best players were not scorers, yet they were still integral to winning a title: Dennis Rodman with the Bulls; Ben Wallace with the Pistons; Kidd with Dallas; Green with Golden State.

So to me, success is just as much about building the right mix of talent vs. the volume of talent.

That's why guys like Crowder, Favors, Horford, Batum, Harrison Barnes, and others bandied about here resonates with a lot of us. We're starting to see the right foundation built, to the point where team fit and need is becoming a higher priority.


Well stated. I'd add Bogut of the Warriors as another example of a guy who's not a "Star" but is a really good player/fit on team with stars.
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Duke13 wrote:I'll let you morons waste your time talking about these hypothetical trades that will never happen.


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TheSP wrote:
Duke13 wrote:I'll let you morons waste your time talking about these hypothetical trades that will never happen.


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Nobody calls me a moron and gets away with it! Except that one guy who called me a moron and then ran off. He got away with it. But most people who call me a moron don't get away with it. Well, actually, that guy who got away with it was the only one who ever called me a moron. After today ... only half the people who ever called me a moron will have gotten away with it

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