2020 NFL Draft Day Thread

[BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]]

Can somebody post Kipers analysis?

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

[BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]]

Thanks Kahns

[bleedspeed]

I really wish we wouldn't have gone WR first round. I really thought that we needed one of the top DE's.

We could have gotten a WR at 4th round pick 117 that was typically a 2nd or 3rd round guy any other year.
Joe Reed or Tyler Johnson would have been great picks. Or even Isaiah Coulter in 5th at 171.

Yetur Gross-Matos is a huge upgrade over Wonnum.

I will be curious about how we upgrade LG.

[Monster]

I really wish we wouldn't have gone WR first round. I really thought that we needed one of the top DE's.

We could have gotten a WR at 4th round pick 117 that was typically a 2nd or 3rd round guy any other year.
Joe Reed or Tyler Johnson would have been great picks. Or even Isaiah Coulter in 5th at 171.

Yetur Gross-Matos is a huge upgrade over Wonnum.

I will be curious about how we upgrade LG.

I thought it was pretty interesting that other than a player here or there...pass rushers seemed to be an afterthought. The guy I was watching with is a Bears fan and he said he wonders if part of it is that teams feel like you can scheme around pass rushers it's DBs you want. I personally think it was more about the talent (or lack there of) at the position. It didn't seem that good or that's what it seemed to me. The last couple years guys were getting taken in the 3 or 4th round with some of the Hunter physical traits. This year those guys were running 4.7 40's instead of 4.6 40's.

I'd rather the Vikings take a WR higher for a couple reasons.

1. Supposedly those WRs were really talented. Jefferson was something closer to one of the best players available not a draft for need type thing. You aren't a big fan of his but it seems he was pretty highly regarded.

2. The Vikings have a legit track record of developing DE. They Really got sort of lucky with Diggs and Thielen. I'm not sure anyone is still here from the offensive side when they brought in those guys and started to develop them. I have a MUCH higher level of confidence that they know what they are doing at the DE position than maybe any spot on the entire roster. They just got Weatherly paid and he was a late round pick.

3. The Vikings may have more on the roster at that position than we give credit for. Yarbrough and Zettel have started a number of games in the past. Odenigbo regardless of where he played on the DL had 7 sacks as a backup. Most fans would be talking a guy with that kind of production as a big breakthrough candidate. I'm personally staying cautious about what I think about him but there was some production there. Again I'm willing to give the Vikings the benefit of the doubt when it comes to DL. Andre Patterson seems to be able to help find and then develop these guys. I might be more excited about seeing what Armon Watts can do in year 2 as anything about this team.

Having said all that DE wasn't really addressed in this draft significantly and it was a need as far as we know. It's worth being concerned about. Like Inhabe said though if there is something to have confidence in is this coaching staff being able to find players that can play there. Skepticism is fair though as I will be watching to see IF they can figure it out.

Guard...Yeah nothing significant and we don't have anywhere near a level of confidence that we do on the DL that they know what they are doing there. Fortunately they do have plenty of time to add someone to the mix and it's possible having some obvious opportunity could help them land a vet that's still out there or gets let go at some point.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I still think trading up for Epenesa was the move in the second round. Get Epenesa, make the Trent Williams trade and be much better off at both spots than what we have now. Instead we have another project tackle and a lower tier DE prospect.

[Porckchop]

We had to go wr in the first round. Thielen has had issues staying healthy. If he goes down the wr unit is the worst in the league. I'm surprised they did grab more Oline. You resign Cousins you best have enough talent to keep him upright. He's not good at ad libbing when the picket collapses.
This team has so many holes. If they win 8 games it'll be a miracle.

[Monster]

I still think trading up for Epenesa was the move in the second round. Get Epenesa, make the Trent Williams trade and be much better off at both spots than what we have now. Instead we have another project tackle and a lower tier DE prospect.

I like Epensa but in some ways it feels like Willekes is somewhat similar. I just looked up their physical profile. Epensa ran a 40 time of over 5 seconds...Wow. Willekes was productive at MSU...which might be an understatement. I'm looking at Pro sports reference and Epensa has 101 tackes in college. Willekes had 3 straight seasons of over 70 tackles and had nearly as many sacks as Epensa and more tackles for loss. I mention this because part of why I liked Epensa was production. I'm not actualy suggesting that Willekes is better or equal to Epensa but...lets just say I'm lower on Epensa than I was a few days ago that's for sure.

Also here is a Willekes workout video that is somewhat interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKys-tjyJJY

[bleedspeed]

We had to go wr in the first round. Thielen has had issues staying healthy. If he goes down the wr unit is the worst in the league. I'm surprised they did grab more Oline. You resign Cousins you best have enough talent to keep him upright. He's not good at ad libbing when the picket collapses.
This team has so many holes. If they win 8 games it'll be a miracle.

We didn't need too. The draft was super deep at WR. NFL hand 19 WR's scored as starters within the first 2 years. They had only 10 edge rushers which half are 3-4 OLBs'. There was only 6 DT ranked to be starters in the first to years. We could have got a guy at nearly rhe same skill in later rounds at WR while DE/DT had huge drop offs.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

We had to go wr in the first round. Thielen has had issues staying healthy. If he goes down the wr unit is the worst in the league. I'm surprised they did grab more Oline. You resign Cousins you best have enough talent to keep him upright. He's not good at ad libbing when the picket collapses.
This team has so many holes. If they win 8 games it'll be a miracle.

We didn't need too. The draft was super deep at WR. NFL hand 19 WR's scored as starters within the first 2 years. They had only 10 edge rushers which half are 3-4 OLBs'. There was only 6 DT ranked to be starters in the first to years. We could have got a guy at nearly rhe same skill in later rounds at WR while DE/DT had huge drop offs.

I would normally agree, but Jefferson was part of the top 4-5 who were really in a class of their own compared to the rest. Tyler Johnson may end up to being a solid pro, but I don't think he has a better career than any of the top 4-5. These top guys all have a chance to be special while the Tyler Johnson types are more solid rotational pieces. Given where we were at positionally at WR it was a much bigger need to get another potential stud next to Thielen than get a D-Linemen.