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Another mock from https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-draft-machine

Pick 18 - Jonah Williams - OT Alabama
Bradbury and Ford were on the board. Metcalf-WR fell. I was tempted, but since WR's drafted in 1st have not done well lately I went with the guy with the highest floor. PFF had him rated as the top OT. I pick him knowing that we have a LG or LT for the next 10 years. He doesn't have ideal LT length but has only played LT and I think he would be fine in the NFL. His arms are over an inch longer than Joe Thomas.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jonah-williams?id=32195749-4c13-2676-fb3e-2b3d97cbfc66

Pick 50 Darnell Savage - S Maryland
I go into this pick hoping at DT will fall to me. Jerry Tillery and Charles Omenihu are off the board. Dre'Mont Jones from Ohio State is still available. I look at the board and see a few other DT's that could be rotation guys in 2019. Then I look at Savage and he is a swiss army knife at DB. He could play all 5 positions. His 4.3 speed and near 4 inch vertical are top shelf and ballskills are solid. He was productive with four interceptions, two pass breakups, and 52 tackles (5.5 for loss).

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/darnell-savage?id=32195341-5642-6683-d1ee-77f79bcf3445

Pick 81 Elgton Jenkins - G/C Mississippi State
I saw targeting Dre Mont Jones-DT who I passed on in round 2. I scanned my board and saw that Jenkins was still available. He was PFF top-ranked interior OL. I am guessing he will be gone in second in real life, but in this draft I had to take him knowing that there are other DT's who can help us. This pick fixes the OL.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/elgton-jenkins?id=32194a45-4e11-7507-3601-9c3adcefa1c1

Pick 120 Kahale Warring - TE San Diego State
Well waiting for this pick the DTs start flying off the board. Wren, Saunders, Willis, Keke, and Wise are gone. Saylton is there, but see guys that match up in hi value. I still want a TE that can take Rudolph's position in the future. Warring and Conrad are the last 2 left. CJ Conrad to me is a huge sleeper. The Kentucky TE can line up anywhere and cuaght 81% of his passes, but he is a little on the short side and has short arms. I see him as a great U back type. Warring is an upside pick Warring was a latecomer to football, starring instead in just about every other sport possible (water polo, basketball, cross county, swimming, soccer and tennis) during his time at Sonora High School in California. , Warring is still a relative newcomer to the game, but he has the size, speed and athleticism to become a versatile, high-impact player on the pro level. He has the competitiveness to handle run-blocking duties and the talent to line up in the slot. While his production won't catch your eye, his tape does with quickness and ball skills that should make him a more productive target in the NFL than he was in college.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kahale-warring?id=32195741-5275-2700-ebaf-ccabda046f86
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/c.j.-conrad?id=3219434f-4e64-5202-9cb4-8ba8d1274943

Pick 190 Jimmy Moreland - CB James Madison
The 5th round comes and goes. The board has changed extremely. I look at who I have picked and what areas I need to address. This part of the draft about needs over BPA to me. In extreme cases, I would consider BPA, but not seeing that here. Corner seems like a need in 2020 and I love Jimmy Moreland here. His 18 career interceptions are great and he is physical. He is still on the board because he played at a small college and he is only 5'10". I passed on Jamel Dean CB Aburn here who is a freak athlete and huge. I did so because he hs had a good share of knee injuries and didn't have the production.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/5-play-prospect-jmu-cb-jimmy-moreland
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jamel-dean?id=32194445-4111-4360-a36f-715884a085df

Pick 209 Cody Barton - LB Utah
I look over the board. I see one LB left that I would consider drafting. We have invested a ton of cap space in the LB position, but I am not a fan of the guys we have for depth. Barton represents a great value at this point in a weak LB class. Barton is coming off an honorable mention All-Pac-12 season as a senior, leading his team with 116 tackles while also being credited with 10.5 tackles for loss, four sacks, an interception, and six pass breakups. He can cover and tackle. Great depth pick and has decent wheels. I passed on Jamel Dean again to take him.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cody-barton?id=32194241-5276-3281-9024-f13315a94333

Pick 247 Cortez Broughton - DT Cincinnati
We still need a DT and Broughton and PJ Johnson are still on the board. At this point in the draft guys have a big shot at being UDFA. So it is about locking up the guy you want. I went with Broughton. He has solid phyical profile and great production. He won't be here in real draft. Broughton exploded for 18.5 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks last year. He has a shot to contribute. PJ Johnson is bigger at 335lbs and ran a 4.9 40. He had 8.5 tackless for losses to go with 3 sacks. Not bad, but not Broughton's level.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/3139036/cortez-broughton
https://thisistucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/football/arizona-wildcats-defensive-tackle-pj-johnson-entering-nfl-draft/article_ea112d78-143c-11e9-9b7b-8fbdee3279e9.html

Pick 250 Miles Boykin - WR Notre Dame
The simulator is broken at this point. How often do you find 6'"4" 220lb WR's that ran a 4.4 second 40 with a 43.5 inch vertical and 20 yd shuttle run in the 7th round. That is not all. He caught 59 balls and scored 8 TDs last year. The bad news is he had 3 drops.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/miles-boykin?id=3219424f-5961-9498-9292-97cd0e3c0ce9

So that is all. Noteable FA's. G HJALTE FROHOLDT ARKANSAS - RB MIKE WEBER OHIO STATE, PJ JOHNSON DT ARIZONA- DONNELL GREENE - RT MINNESOTA

Looking back this draft nails OL. Didn't address the DL enough. Filled needs at WR, TE, CB, and S. Gave depth at LB. I would think Johan Williams - LT/LG, Darnell Savage - FS, and Elgton Jenkins -LG/RG start. Kahale Warring - TE3 and Jimmy Moreland CB4 contribute. Miles Boykin WR5, Cortez Broughton - DT3, and Cody Barton LB5 add depth.

bleedspeed177 wrote:

Another mock from https://thedraftnetwork.com/mock-draft-machine

Pick 18 - Jonah Williams - OT Alabama
Bradbury and Ford were on the board. Metcalf-WR fell. I was tempted, but since WR's drafted in 1st have not done well lately I went with the guy with the highest floor. PFF had him rated as the top OT. I pick him knowing that we have a LG or LT for the next 10 years. He doesn't have ideal LT length but has only played LT and I think he would be fine in the NFL. His arms are over an inch longer than Joe Thomas.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jonah-williams?id=32195749-4c13-2676-fb3e-2b3d97cbfc66

Pick 50 Darnell Savage - S Maryland
I go into this pick hoping at DT will fall to me. Jerry Tillery and Charles Omenihu are off the board. Dre'Mont Jones from Ohio State is still available. I look at the board and see a few other DT's that could be rotation guys in 2019. Then I look at Savage and he is a swiss army knife at DB. He could play all 5 positions. His 4.3 speed and near 4 inch vertical are top shelf and ballskills are solid. He was productive with four interceptions, two pass breakups, and 52 tackles (5.5 for loss).

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/darnell-savage?id=32195341-5642-6683-d1ee-77f79bcf3445

Pick 81 Elgton Jenkins - G/C Mississippi State
I saw targeting Dre Mont Jones-DT who I passed on in round 2. I scanned my board and saw that Jenkins was still available. He was PFF top-ranked interior OL. I am guessing he will be gone in second in real life, but in this draft I had to take him knowing that there are other DT's who can help us. This pick fixes the OL.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/elgton-jenkins?id=32194a45-4e11-7507-3601-9c3adcefa1c1

Pick 120 Kahale Warring - TE San Diego State
Well waiting for this pick the DTs start flying off the board. Wren, Saunders, Willis, Keke, and Wise are gone. Saylton is there, but see guys that match up in hi value. I still want a TE that can take Rudolph's position in the future. Warring and Conrad are the last 2 left. CJ Conrad to me is a huge sleeper. The Kentucky TE can line up anywhere and cuaght 81% of his passes, but he is a little on the short side and has short arms. I see him as a great U back type. Warring is an upside pick Warring was a latecomer to football, starring instead in just about every other sport possible (water polo, basketball, cross county, swimming, soccer and tennis) during his time at Sonora High School in California. , Warring is still a relative newcomer to the game, but he has the size, speed and athleticism to become a versatile, high-impact player on the pro level. He has the competitiveness to handle run-blocking duties and the talent to line up in the slot. While his production won't catch your eye, his tape does with quickness and ball skills that should make him a more productive target in the NFL than he was in college.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kahale-warring?id=32195741-5275-2700-ebaf-ccabda046f86
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/c.j.-conrad?id=3219434f-4e64-5202-9cb4-8ba8d1274943

Pick 190 Jimmy Moreland - CB James Madison
The 5th round comes and goes. The board has changed extremely. I look at who I have picked and what areas I need to address. This part of the draft about needs over BPA to me. In extreme cases, I would consider BPA, but not seeing that here. Corner seems like a need in 2020 and I love Jimmy Moreland here. His 18 career interceptions are great and he is physical. He is still on the board because he played at a small college and he is only 5'10". I passed on Jamel Dean CB Aburn here who is a freak athlete and huge. I did so because he hs had a good share of knee injuries and didn't have the production.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/5-play-prospect-jmu-cb-jimmy-moreland
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jamel-dean?id=32194445-4111-4360-a36f-715884a085df

Pick 209 Cody Barton - LB Utah
I look over the board. I see one LB left that I would consider drafting. We have invested a ton of cap space in the LB position, but I am not a fan of the guys we have for depth. Barton represents a great value at this point in a weak LB class. Barton is coming off an honorable mention All-Pac-12 season as a senior, leading his team with 116 tackles while also being credited with 10.5 tackles for loss, four sacks, an interception, and six pass breakups. He can cover and tackle. Great depth pick and has decent wheels. I passed on Jamel Dean again to take him.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/cody-barton?id=32194241-5276-3281-9024-f13315a94333

Pick 247 Cortez Broughton - DT Cincinnati
We still need a DT and Broughton and PJ Johnson are still on the board. At this point in the draft guys have a big shot at being UDFA. So it is about locking up the guy you want. I went with Broughton. He has solid phyical profile and great production. He won't be here in real draft. Broughton exploded for 18.5 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks last year. He has a shot to contribute. PJ Johnson is bigger at 335lbs and ran a 4.9 40. He had 8.5 tackless for losses to go with 3 sacks. Not bad, but not Broughton's level.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/3139036/cortez-broughton
https://thisistucson.com/sports/arizonawildcats/football/arizona-wildcats-defensive-tackle-pj-johnson-entering-nfl-draft/article_ea112d78-143c-11e9-9b7b-8fbdee3279e9.html

Pick 250 Miles Boykin - WR Notre Dame
The simulator is broken at this point. How often do you find 6'"4" 220lb WR's that ran a 4.4 second 40 with a 43.5 inch vertical and 20 yd shuttle run in the 7th round. That is not all. He caught 59 balls and scored 8 TDs last year. The bad news is he had 3 drops.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/miles-boykin?id=3219424f-5961-9498-9292-97cd0e3c0ce9

So that is all. Noteable FA's. G HJALTE FROHOLDT ARKANSAS - RB MIKE WEBER OHIO STATE, PJ JOHNSON DT ARIZONA- DONNELL GREENE - RT MINNESOTA

Looking back this draft nails OL. Didn't address the DL enough. Filled needs at WR, TE, CB, and S. Gave depth at LB. I would think Johan Williams - LT/LG, Darnell Savage - FS, and Elgton Jenkins -LG/RG start. Kahale Warring - TE3 and Jimmy Moreland CB4 contribute. Miles Boykin WR5, Cortez Broughton - DT3, and Cody Barton LB5 add depth.

"He could play all 5 positions. His 4.3 speed and near 4 inch vertical are top shelf and ballskills are solid." 4" vertical? Sounds like a guy I play basketball with and we joke he doesn't jump he just picks up his feet and goes horizontally towards the basket. I joke he always has the top 5 plays BELOW the rim. :) He is an awesome dude on and off the court. Only brought this up cause it made me laugh.

Boykin is interesting with his physical abilities. It reminds me a bit of Jordan Taylor although he isn't quite the freak Boykin is. I'm not holding out much hope but Treadwell turns 24 in July. He is only a few months older than some of the guys that will be drafted in a few days. He is obviously not assured of a spot on the team. A trade would save them a somewhat decent chunk of money but I'm not holding my breath on that either. He will he fighting with some other talented guys for a roster spot. There is a chance he makes it on merit and does something with it. Not a great chance but you can say that for a lot of guys at that position after Diggs and Theilen. It's an interesting position to watch.

monsterpile wrote:

"He could play all 5 positions. His 4.3 speed and near 4 inch vertical are top shelf and ballskills are solid." 4" vertical? Sounds like a guy I play basketball with and we joke he doesn't jump he just picks up his feet and goes horizontally towards the basket. I joke he always has the top 5 plays BELOW the rim. :) He is an awesome dude on and off the court. Only brought this up cause it made me laugh.

Boykin is interesting with his physical abilities. It reminds me a bit of Jordan Taylor although he isn't quite the freak Boykin is. I'm not holding out much hope but Treadwell turns 24 in July. He is only a few months older than some of the guys that will be drafted in a few days. He is obviously not assured of a spot on the team. A trade would save them a somewhat decent chunk of money but I'm not holding my breath on that either. He will he fighting with some other talented guys for a roster spot. There is a chance he makes it on merit and does something with it. Not a great chance but you can say that for a lot of guys at that position after Diggs and Theilen. It's an interesting position to watch.

That is funny. Treadwell certainly doesn't have any value around the league. It seemed like a case of Vikings picking need over BPA. I don't know if it was, but there were questions about his speed and hands. He was supposed to win all of the contested balls and be a good blocker. Not how that ever translated to a 1st round pick, but if we didn't pick him I am sure someone else would have.

Here was an interesting read on him.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/can-the-vikings-salvage-laquon-treadwell

bleedspeed177 wrote:

monsterpile wrote:

"He could play all 5 positions. His 4.3 speed and near 4 inch vertical are top shelf and ballskills are solid." 4" vertical? Sounds like a guy I play basketball with and we joke he doesn't jump he just picks up his feet and goes horizontally towards the basket. I joke he always has the top 5 plays BELOW the rim. :) He is an awesome dude on and off the court. Only brought this up cause it made me laugh.

Boykin is interesting with his physical abilities. It reminds me a bit of Jordan Taylor although he isn't quite the freak Boykin is. I'm not holding out much hope but Treadwell turns 24 in July. He is only a few months older than some of the guys that will be drafted in a few days. He is obviously not assured of a spot on the team. A trade would save them a somewhat decent chunk of money but I'm not holding my breath on that either. He will he fighting with some other talented guys for a roster spot. There is a chance he makes it on merit and does something with it. Not a great chance but you can say that for a lot of guys at that position after Diggs and Theilen. It's an interesting position to watch.

That is funny. Treadwell certainly doesn't have any value around the league. It seemed like a case of Vikings picking need over BPA. I don't know if it was, but there were questions about his speed and hands. He was supposed to win all of the contested balls and be a good blocker. Not how that ever translated to a 1st round pick, but if we didn't pick him I am sure someone else would have.

Here was an interesting read on him.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/can-the-vikings-salvage-laquon-treadwell

Depending on who you talked to or read Treadwell fell to them. There were some people that LOVED Treadwell coming out. The Vikings did seem to need a receiver at the time but it's not like they reached for him. Fortunately Alexander finally looked like a legit player last year but other than Morgan being a guy that helped right away that draft didn't give many immediate returns and it really hurt the team. Fortunately they did fairly well in the later rounds getting guys like Morgan Weatherly Kearse and picking up C.J. ham as an undrafted guy.

The 2nd half of the season last year Treadwell still was on the field but lost snaps to other players at times but was also playing some on ST. He had 12 receptions the last 8 games. The article brought up some bad moments and also reminded me of times where he was...um not looking happy with teammates after a bad play a few times and it was a bad look but IF he has actually improved could a guy that has 3 years of NFL experience be worthwhile in his 4th year? Idk but again that WR corps has plenty of Opportunity and there is going to be plenty of competition for those spots whether from another draft pick or a crop of undead red guys or both. Right now Treadwell is the youngest receiver on the roster. Everyone else except Jeff Badet intrigues me more than Treadwell so...

Looking over the roster one guy I like that doesn't get talked about much is Craig James. He looked like a player last year in preseason and seemed to have some return skills which was a nice boost. With Holton Hill suspended they will have a open roster spot for someone and they will likely need another CB. He might be a guy that can help.

Since I'm bored I looked into Duke Thomas a little bit. Top 30 athlete in his HS class and played all over the field at times for Texas. It sounds like he plays bigger than his size (when he tackles people) and has bounced around some because of injuries. He seemed to have a nice stunt in the AAF receiving one of the highest grades from PFF as a CB. He had 31 tackles in 8 games. Not exactly the big DB that Zimmer goes after but somewhat interesting. It's also worth noting that they have used guys like Kearse in the slot last year so if a guy can play outside they have that option...or maybe they play another Saftey in that spot also like they do with Kearse (to help with depth) which makes a lot of sense.

I think the big CB thing is overrated. Sure everyone would like the big corner, but give me the corner that can stick to a guy in man, press the LOS, make tackles, and has ball skills. I don't care what size he is.

bleedspeed177 wrote:I think the big CB thing is overrated. Sure everyone would like the big corner, but give me the corner that can stick to a guy in man, press the LOS, make tackles, and has ball skills. I don't care what size he is.

I completely agree up to a point. Sherels size was/is a big drawback. He was pretty far from being a legit 5'10". 5'10" or so is big enough. It was for Terrance Newman for 15 years and over 61 million bucks. Obviously a guy with the same skills and 3 inches taller is gonna be more exciting but it isn't everything. How many college corners that were big switched to Safty before they graduated? I can think of a few just from guys that the Vikings have or had in their organization.

I agree. I think anything under 5'10" starts to be on the short end. I remember seeing Captain at the MOA during the the Superbowl. I was standing next to him and honestly was shocked how little the guy was. Good player, but I couldn't see him covering anyone 6'4 plus. If you watch the Moreland clips in the link. The guys ballskills are off the charts. He has high-end WR type ball skills. That over the shoulder INT he got was very impressive.

DRAFT WEEK!!!

Please let us get Johan Williams at 18.

bleedspeed177 wrote:DRAFT WEEK!!!

Please let us get Johan Williams at 18.

Yes I bet he will eventually develop a killer changeup...wait who are we talking about? :) jk