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Notable College Players ranked by D-Rating (the lower the number, the better):

3 Chinanu Onuaku SO C Louisville 84.9
5 Pascal Siakam SO F New Mexico State 86.7
11 Ron Baker SR G Wichita State 87.9
15 Fred VanVleet SR G Wichita State 88.6
17 A.J. Hammons SR C Purdue 88.7
24 Joel Bolomboy SR F Weber State 90.0
38 Brice Johnson SR F North Carolina 90.8
39 Deyonta Davis FR F Michigan State 90.9
50 Domantas Sabonis SO F Gonzaga 91.2
76 Stephen Zimmerman Jr. F Nevada-Las Vegas 92.7
134 Denzel Valentine SR G Michigan State 94.0
147 Josh Hart JR G Villanova 94.3
156 Damion Lee SR G Louisville 94.6
167 Robert Carter JR F Maryland 94.8
169 Kris Dunn JR G Providence 94.8
199 Ivan Rabb FR F University of California 95.3
228 Damian Jones JR C Vanderbilt 95.8
234 Patrick McCaw SO G Nevada-Las Vegas 95.9
Jarrod Uthoff SR F Iowa 96.4
300 Dorian Finney-Smith SR F Florida 96.8
309 Skal Labissiere FR F Kentucky 96.9
317 Jaylen Brown FR F University of California 97.1
334 Gary Payton SR G Oregon State 97.2
370 DeAndre Bembry JR F Saint Joseph's 97.7
376 Wade Baldwin SO G Vanderbilt 97.8
401 Diamond Stone FR C Maryland 97.9
463 Ben Simmons FR F Louisiana State 98.4
471 Henry Ellenson FR F Marquette 98.5
478 Jakob Poeltl SO F Utah 98.5
626 Perry Ellis SR F Kansas 99.6
629 Danuel House SR G Texas A&M 99.6
653 Ben Bentil SO F Providence 99.8
735 Buddy Hield SR G Oklahoma 100.4
791 Jaron Blossomgame JR F Clemson 100.8
814 Wayne Selden JR Kansas G 100.9
Michael Gbinije SR F Syracuse 100.9
839 Nigel Hayes JR F Wisconsin 101.1
910 Melo Trimble SO G Maryland 101.5
UNR Caris Levert SR G Michigan 102.0
1033 Dejounte Murray FR G Washington 102.1
1047 Marquese Chriss FR F Washington 102.2
1121 Dillon Brooks SO F Oregon 102.6
1132 Jamal Murray FR G Kentucky 102.6
1151Taurean Prince SR F Baylor 102.7
1287 Tyler Ulis SO G Kentucky 103.4
1507 Brandon Ingram FR G Duke 104.4
2171 Grayson Allen SO G Duke 107.6
Demetrius Jackson JR G Notre Dame 111.1

Brice Johnson at #33 on DX's mock draft. Really!?

Sabonis, Valentine, Allen, Johnson....Boy, it seems like there is a ton of value outside of the lottery. Milt, please call Danny Ainge and get something done!

Q12543 wrote:Brice Johnson at #33 on DX's mock draft. Really!?

Sabonis, Valentine, Allen, Johnson....Boy, it seems like there is a ton of value outside of the lottery. Milt, please call Danny Ainge and get something done!

Allen, Valentine and especially Sabonis are going in the lottery. You can hold me to that.

Camden wrote:

Q12543 wrote:Brice Johnson at #33 on DX's mock draft. Really!?

Sabonis, Valentine, Allen, Johnson....Boy, it seems like there is a ton of value outside of the lottery. Milt, please call Danny Ainge and get something done!

Allen, Valentine and especially Sabonis are going in the lottery. You can hold me to that.

That's some major movement on DX's big board then, especially with very few 1st round prospects even playing anymore games at this point.

What do you think of Brice Johnson?

Mike Brey looks like Jason Sudeikis.

Camden wrote:

Q12543 wrote:Brice Johnson at #33 on DX's mock draft. Really!?

Sabonis, Valentine, Allen, Johnson....Boy, it seems like there is a ton of value outside of the lottery. Milt, please call Danny Ainge and get something done!

Allen, Valentine and especially Sabonis are going in the lottery. You can hold me to that.

Not sure about Allen. I think the other 2 for sure.

Those D-Ratings are skued like crazy IMO. Just look at VanFleet and Baker. Neither look the part of great individual defenders...but man, as a team, that Shockers team is tough to score against. Just an example where system wins out over this metric.

D-Rating is a great stat as a starting point to analyze someone's defense. I have seen more correlation between College D-Rating and NBA defensive stats, than any other metric. Its uncanny how all the great NBA defenders who came out of the draft since this stat was created had a low college D-Rating. I checked every NBA player that had a good Defensive RPM and the worst one was like 99 college D-Rating, which is still decent. Guys like KAT, AD, and Draymond Green had super low college D-Ratings. Even Klay who was known for his offense had a very good college D-Rating. There aren't many prospects with real low D-Ratings this year, so as a class I think its hard to find guys you can project as future shutdown defenders. The best defenders would include Deyonta Davis and Chinanu Onuaku for big men. As for guards, Gary Payton had a pretty good D-Rating last year and this year its still decent and he has some of the defensive skills and mentality of his old man (though he's smaller and not nearly the offensive player of his dad). I like Patrick McCaw as a defender mainly because he is Ricky Rubio like in the steals department, and he can pass and shoot. Dunn is a solid defender. Brown is a solid defender who could potentially be very good. Poeltl is an ok defender but not a great shot blocker. Nobody else excites me as a defender.

Have we brought up Tyler London? It has been years since we drafted anyone from Syracuse.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tyler-Lydon-71672/

Positives
-Athletic stretch four
-Excellent shooter with deep range
-Explosive athlete
-Terrific shot blocker
-Can put the ball on the floor

Negatives
-Needs to add strength
-Inconsistent

bleedspeed177 wrote:Have we brought up Tyler London? It has been years since we drafted anyone from Syracuse.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tyler-Lydon-71672/

Positives
-Athletic stretch four
-Excellent shooter with deep range
-Explosive athlete
-Terrific shot blocker
-Can put the ball on the floor

Negatives
-Needs to add strength
-Inconsistent

The guy I like from Syracuse is Malachi Richardson.