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Re: DeJounte Murray Trade

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:59 pm
by Coolbreeze44
thedoper wrote:I can't swallow 3 picks for Murray. We are the Wolves. If the price is 3 picks I extend DLo for 1 dollar more than Brunson gets.

You can't make this up. Camden likes your post. What a shock. The lunacy around DLO continues.

Re: DeJounte Murray Trade

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:58 pm
by thedoper
lipoli390 wrote:According to Knicks beat report Fred Katz of The Athletic, the front office has at least looked into it. In a recent episode of the Callin Shots podcast Katz confirmed that the team has been making the calls around the league for a potential Julius Randle trade. But he also affirmed that nothing is likely to happen in the coming offseason: "The Knicks have inquired with other teams about moving Julius Randle ... I'm not optimistic, if you're somebody who wants them to trade Randle, I wouldn't predict that's what happens this summer. We're talking about like giving him away. Maybe if you take back a contract of equal value." - via R.P. Salao @ Clutch Points

No surprise that the Knicks really want to jettison Randle's terrible contract. Perhaps this opens up an opportunity for the Wolves to get Murray without giving up any draft picks. Here's the three-way scenario:

Wolves Get: Murray + Randle
Knicks Get: Jason Richardson
Spurs Get the following:
DLO
Naz
Knicks' 2023 1st-round pick (top 4 protected)
Mavs' 2023 1st-round pick via Knicks (already top 10 protected)
Knicks' 2025 1st-round pick (top 4 protected)

Looks like a really nice deal for the Spurs. They get three 1st-round picks and two of those three could easily be lottery picks in the 5-14 range. Those picks are more front-loaded than they would otherwise be because of the extra 2023 pick the Knicks can offer courtesy of Dallas. They also get a promising young big in Naz Reid and a good PG for next season who at the end of the season becomes major additional cap room.

Looks like a good deal for the Knicks because they offload the bad Randle contract and they get a bonus by receiving a very solid two-way rotation SG in Richardson.

What about the Wolves? Well, it's a mixed bag. We'd be stuck with Randle's contract. But we'd have a huge upgrade and perfect fit at the PG position in Murray without giving up any future picks or any of our young talent like McDaniels, Nowell, Bolmaro, Moore, Kessler, Minott or Spagnolo. Interesting possibility. But I just can't get beyond being stuck with Randle and his $24-29M contract for the next four seasons. Yuck!!


If you can get us Murray and Randle without losing any draft picks you should be working with Connelly. Im totally down with that deal.

Re: DeJounte Murray Trade

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:03 pm
by kekgeek
thedoper wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:According to Knicks beat report Fred Katz of The Athletic, the front office has at least looked into it. In a recent episode of the Callin Shots podcast Katz confirmed that the team has been making the calls around the league for a potential Julius Randle trade. But he also affirmed that nothing is likely to happen in the coming offseason: "The Knicks have inquired with other teams about moving Julius Randle ... I'm not optimistic, if you're somebody who wants them to trade Randle, I wouldn't predict that's what happens this summer. We're talking about like giving him away. Maybe if you take back a contract of equal value." - via R.P. Salao @ Clutch Points

No surprise that the Knicks really want to jettison Randle's terrible contract. Perhaps this opens up an opportunity for the Wolves to get Murray without giving up any draft picks. Here's the three-way scenario:

Wolves Get: Murray + Randle
Knicks Get: Jason Richardson
Spurs Get the following:
DLO
Naz
Knicks' 2023 1st-round pick (top 4 protected)
Mavs' 2023 1st-round pick via Knicks (already top 10 protected)
Knicks' 2025 1st-round pick (top 4 protected)

Looks like a really nice deal for the Spurs. They get three 1st-round picks and two of those three could easily be lottery picks in the 5-14 range. Those picks are more front-loaded than they would otherwise be because of the extra 2023 pick the Knicks can offer courtesy of Dallas. They also get a promising young big in Naz Reid and a good PG for next season who at the end of the season becomes major additional cap room.

Looks like a good deal for the Knicks because they offload the bad Randle contract and they get a bonus by receiving a very solid two-way rotation SG in Richardson.

What about the Wolves? Well, it's a mixed bag. We'd be stuck with Randle's contract. But we'd have a huge upgrade and perfect fit at the PG position in Murray without giving up any future picks or any of our young talent like McDaniels, Nowell, Bolmaro, Moore, Kessler, Minott or Spagnolo. Interesting possibility. But I just can't get beyond being stuck with Randle and his $24-29M contract for the next four seasons. Yuck!!


If you can get us Murray and Randle without losing any draft picks you should be working with Connelly. Im totally down with that deal.


Ya I don't think the Knicks are offering 3 1st round picks just to dump Randle

Re: DeJounte Murray Trade

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:31 pm
by Lipoli390
kekgeek1 wrote:
thedoper wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:According to Knicks beat report Fred Katz of The Athletic, the front office has at least looked into it. In a recent episode of the Callin Shots podcast Katz confirmed that the team has been making the calls around the league for a potential Julius Randle trade. But he also affirmed that nothing is likely to happen in the coming offseason: "The Knicks have inquired with other teams about moving Julius Randle ... I'm not optimistic, if you're somebody who wants them to trade Randle, I wouldn't predict that's what happens this summer. We're talking about like giving him away. Maybe if you take back a contract of equal value." - via R.P. Salao @ Clutch Points

No surprise that the Knicks really want to jettison Randle's terrible contract. Perhaps this opens up an opportunity for the Wolves to get Murray without giving up any draft picks. Here's the three-way scenario:

Wolves Get: Murray + Randle
Knicks Get: Jason Richardson
Spurs Get the following:
DLO
Naz
Knicks' 2023 1st-round pick (top 4 protected)
Mavs' 2023 1st-round pick via Knicks (already top 10 protected)
Knicks' 2025 1st-round pick (top 4 protected)

Looks like a really nice deal for the Spurs. They get three 1st-round picks and two of those three could easily be lottery picks in the 5-14 range. Those picks are more front-loaded than they would otherwise be because of the extra 2023 pick the Knicks can offer courtesy of Dallas. They also get a promising young big in Naz Reid and a good PG for next season who at the end of the season becomes major additional cap room.

Looks like a good deal for the Knicks because they offload the bad Randle contract and they get a bonus by receiving a very solid two-way rotation SG in Richardson.

What about the Wolves? Well, it's a mixed bag. We'd be stuck with Randle's contract. But we'd have a huge upgrade and perfect fit at the PG position in Murray without giving up any future picks or any of our young talent like McDaniels, Nowell, Bolmaro, Moore, Kessler, Minott or Spagnolo. Interesting possibility. But I just can't get beyond being stuck with Randle and his $24-29M contract for the next four seasons. Yuck!!


If you can get us Murray and Randle without losing any draft picks you should be working with Connelly. Im totally down with that deal.


Ya I don't think the Knicks are offering 3 1st round picks just to dump Randle


That's too bad. That was our only hope. :). How about the Knicks including 2 future 1st round picks and we supply one and a couple draft swaps?

Re: DeJounte Murray Trade

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:19 pm
by BloopOracle
He was just traded to the Hawks, for gallinari and multiple first round picks per Woj

Re: DeJounte Murray Trade

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:26 pm
by Lipoli390
BloopOracle wrote:He was just traded to the Hawks, for gallinari and multiple first round picks per Woj


The Dejounte Murray dream is now over. It's on to Clint Capela.

Re: DeJounte Murray Trade

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:27 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
Shams Charania:

Sources: The Spurs are trading Dejounte Murray to Atlanta for Danilo Gallinari, three first-round draft picks and a draft swap.


Good deal for San Antonio, in my opinion. Three first-round picks is a haul and they took back an expiring deal so no harm is done to their future payroll. I truly think this was selling high for the Spurs while Dejounte Murray had two years left on his current deal.

And it makes sense for Atlanta. Both can be true. They needed another guard that could take pressure off of Trae Young. They also really need Murray's perimeter defense. They certainly paid more than I would have for him, but I can understand why they made the move they did.

Re: DeJounte Murray Trade

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:28 pm
by 60WinTim
Yup. This thread can be shut down.

Re: DeJounte Murray Trade

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:30 pm
by thedoper
That is a lot to pay. Good for San Antonio. I think Pop is officially retiring.

Re: DeJounte Murray Trade

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:42 pm
by Monster
Camden wrote:
Shams Charania:

Sources: The Spurs are trading Dejounte Murray to Atlanta for Danilo Gallinari, three first-round draft picks and a draft swap.


Good deal for San Antonio, in my opinion. Three first-round picks is a haul and they took back an expiring deal so no harm is done to their future payroll. I truly think this was selling high for the Spurs while Dejounte Murray had two years left on his current deal.

And it makes sense for Atlanta. Both can be true. They needed another guard that could take pressure off of Trae Young. They also really need Murray's perimeter defense. They certainly paid more than I would have for him, but I can understand why they made the move they did.


This is pretty much how I see it.