Q12543 wrote:I'm starting to get worried about Reid. He just can't stop anything on the interior. Yes, he gets his fair share of "stocks", but things are just too easy for opposing players that go down hill at him.
I also wonder if we can ultimately upgrade the backup PG position, assuming DLO is still our starting PG heading into next season. Obviously Rubio has lost a beat or two since last season and will likely be moved this summer. McLaughlin has been "nice", but we need our bench to be a strength since our starting 5 isn't going to be elite in the near future.
Fortunately, finding good backup bigs and point guards should not be as hard as, say, finding a 3&D wing.
I love the G-league brigade from last year, but these guys just might not be good enough for what we need going forward.
I miss Tyus. The dude was not flashy, but he handled the ball well, did not turn it over and was effective.
Another guard that can't score or shoot. And he makes way too much money for what he brings to the table. He was a good value while on his rookie contract, but not anymore. We'd have roughly $16-million annually invested into him and Hernangomez.
He's way better then Rubio.
There may be a universe you're living in that I am not. Rubio has accomplished plenty more than Tyus to date. I was not a big fan of the Rubio trade, even though I did love watching him in his first stint here, so I did not hate seeing him come back. Rubio was infectious character wise here; especially after the Garnett days. I cannot say I cared watching Tyus leave for that contract. Good luck to him, glad it was not our franchise paying it.
I'm just saying this season, Rubio is worse then Tyus and anyone that watched Rubio play would agree. Rubio shoots the ball terrible from everywhere and turns it over all the time. He couldn't do anything worse offensively. And defensively Tyus has him there too.
I get that.
I do not think anybody thought Rubio would play this bad after his last few years. Luckily we got Jaden McDaniels out of it, and a wait and see with Bolmaro.
Either way, I hate many trades from this team worse than the Rubio one.
Not worried in the slightest about not retaining Tyus though.
I'm not worried about it either, just pointing out I'd rather have Tyus as he won't be the reason you lose games. He's always been elite in not turning it over and simply being competent enough defensively. He is solid from 2 this season I think I saw 52%. 85% FT. So I mean other the his 3P% he is alright.
Tyus at 8 million or Rubio at 17 million? Who is really being overpaid.
Obviously, I can't say this for absolute certain, but I think there's a strong chance that Jaden McDaniels was going to be there at 33 -- Minnesota's own second round pick before any card shuffling was done. Remember that he was drafted late at 28. There's a five pick difference there and the teams in between didn't draft a big with their selections except for Charlotte with Vernon Carey Jr. Again, it's no sure thing, but there's a possible scenario that plays out where McDaniels is on the Wolves without any Ricky Rubio trade at all.
Camden0916 wrote:Obviously, I can't say this for absolute certain, but I think there's a strong chance that Jaden McDaniels was going to be there at 33 -- Minnesota's own second round pick before any card shuffling was done. Remember that he was drafted late at 28. There's a five pick difference there and the teams in between didn't draft a big with their selections except for Charlotte with Vernon Carey Jr. Again, it's no sure thing, but there's a possible scenario that plays out where McDaniels is on the Wolves without any Ricky Rubio trade at all.
Possibility, perhaps. But you cannot draft like that, and we won't ever know the process at the time. You have a target and you go get them. The Bolmaro one still baffles me, but I feel a bit confident now that the team hit on two decent players in Edwards and McDaniels.
Camden wrote:Obviously, I can't say this for absolute certain, but I think there's a strong chance that Jaden McDaniels was going to be there at 33 -- Minnesota's own second round pick before any card shuffling was done. Remember that he was drafted late at 28. There's a five pick difference there and the teams in between didn't draft a big with their selections except for Charlotte with Vernon Carey Jr. Again, it's no sure thing, but there's a possible scenario that plays out where McDaniels is on the Wolves without any Ricky Rubio trade at all.
Q12543 wrote:I'm starting to get worried about Reid. He just can't stop anything on the interior. Yes, he gets his fair share of "stocks", but things are just too easy for opposing players that go down hill at him.
I also wonder if we can ultimately upgrade the backup PG position, assuming DLO is still our starting PG heading into next season. Obviously Rubio has lost a beat or two since last season and will likely be moved this summer. McLaughlin has been "nice", but we need our bench to be a strength since our starting 5 isn't going to be elite in the near future.
Fortunately, finding good backup bigs and point guards should not be as hard as, say, finding a 3&D wing.
I love the G-league brigade from last year, but these guys just might not be good enough for what we need going forward.
I miss Tyus. The dude was not flashy, but he handled the ball well, did not turn it over and was effective.
Another guard that can't score or shoot. And he makes way too much money for what he brings to the table. He was a good value while on his rookie contract, but not anymore. We'd have roughly $16-million annually invested into him and Hernangomez.
He's way better then Rubio.
There may be a universe you're living in that I am not. Rubio has accomplished plenty more than Tyus to date. I was not a big fan of the Rubio trade, even though I did love watching him in his first stint here, so I did not hate seeing him come back. Rubio was infectious character wise here; especially after the Garnett days. I cannot say I cared watching Tyus leave for that contract. Good luck to him, glad it was not our franchise paying it.
I'm just saying this season, Rubio is worse then Tyus and anyone that watched Rubio play would agree. Rubio shoots the ball terrible from everywhere and turns it over all the time. He couldn't do anything worse offensively. And defensively Tyus has him there too.
I get that.
I do not think anybody thought Rubio would play this bad after his last few years. Luckily we got Jaden McDaniels out of it, and a wait and see with Bolmaro.
Either way, I hate many trades from this team worse than the Rubio one.
Not worried in the slightest about not retaining Tyus though.
I'm not worried about it either, just pointing out I'd rather have Tyus as he won't be the reason you lose games. He's always been elite in not turning it over and simply being competent enough defensively. He is solid from 2 this season I think I saw 52%. 85% FT. So I mean other the his 3P% he is alright.
Tyus at 8 million or Rubio at 17 million? Who is really being overpaid.
Both. If I was a betting man I would've taken Rubio 9/10 times. And I would still feel right .
Looking back, I would have said svrew it and ran with JMaC at backup. But then we do not get our other two rookies, and likely sign nobody else.
Rubio has helped win games. I doubt Tyus ever has that impact.
Camden wrote:Obviously, I can't say this for absolute certain, but I think there's a strong chance that Jaden McDaniels was going to be there at 33 -- Minnesota's own second round pick before any card shuffling was done. Remember that he was drafted late at 28. There's a five pick difference there and the teams in between didn't draft a big with their selections except for Charlotte with Vernon Carey Jr. Again, it's no sure thing, but there's a possible scenario that plays out where McDaniels is on the Wolves without any Ricky Rubio trade at all.
Sure. It's definitely possible or even probable.
But then the Wolves wouldn't have Bolmaro!
O Balmaro, Bolmaro, wherefore art thou Bolmaro? Deny thy father and refuse thy name...
Camden0916 wrote:Obviously, I can't say this for absolute certain, but I think there's a strong chance that Jaden McDaniels was going to be there at 33 -- Minnesota's own second round pick before any card shuffling was done. Remember that he was drafted late at 28. There's a five pick difference there and the teams in between didn't draft a big with their selections except for Charlotte with Vernon Carey Jr. Again, it's no sure thing, but there's a possible scenario that plays out where McDaniels is on the Wolves without any Ricky Rubio trade at all.
Possibility, perhaps. But you cannot draft like that, and we won't ever know the process at the time. You have a target and you go get them. The Bolmaro one still baffles me, but I feel a bit confident now that the team hit on two decent players in Edwards and McDaniels.
I get it and totally agree in most instances. But there's also the possibility of trading up from 33 with a future second-round pick -- maybe the one that was dumped in the Ed Davis trade -- to go get your target. Minnesota did something similar to draft Tyus Jones years back even though it was a different front office. I'm just saying that the Ricky Rubio trade wasn't a must in order to draft Jaden McDaniels, in my opinion. I think he would have landed in Minnesota regardless.
Camden wrote:Obviously, I can't say this for absolute certain, but I think there's a strong chance that Jaden McDaniels was going to be there at 33 -- Minnesota's own second round pick before any card shuffling was done. Remember that he was drafted late at 28. There's a five pick difference there and the teams in between didn't draft a big with their selections except for Charlotte with Vernon Carey Jr. Again, it's no sure thing, but there's a possible scenario that plays out where McDaniels is on the Wolves without any Ricky Rubio trade at all.
Sure. It's definitely possible or even probable.
But then the Wolves wouldn't have Bolmaro!
O Balmaro, Bolmaro, wherefore art thou Bolmaro? Deny thy father and refuse thy name...
I am not super clued in on art, but I will call you abeshphere from now on.
