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Camden wrote:

PorkChop wrote:Does anyone see a scenario where taking Bol Bol at ten would make sense?

If we trade Towns, then sure.

Bol Bol has serious motor issues and can't stay healthy. I wouldn't take him at #30. But we're talking about the Wolves, so I could see them drafting Bol Bol at 10.

I think I'm in favor of taking Brandon Clark. He's athletic and an immediate upgrade defensively . If he pans out it would make Saric and Or Gibsonexpendable or at the very least Gorgi would never see the floor. The PF position might be the least athletic in the league.

PorkChop wrote:I think I'm in favor of taking Brandon Clark. He's athletic and an immediate upgrade defensively . If he pans out it would make Saric and Or Gibsonexpendable or at the very least Gorgi would never see the floor. The PF position might be the least athletic in the league.

Taking Clark anywhere in the lottery is like hitting a single up the middle when you needed at least a double to score the runner. He'll likely be a 10-year pro, which is nothing to sneeze at, but he is not the guy we should be targeting in this class.

Camden0916 wrote:So many wild takes come out around this time [draft season] every year. And of course, they usually come from those that haven't really done their homework -- especially if their day-to-day lifestyle doesn't allow them the time to properly scout/evaluate these guys.

Yes I apologize for myself and others 'wild takes'. If only we had your amazing talent evaluation skills.

BizarroJerry wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:So many wild takes come out around this time [draft season] every year. And of course, they usually come from those that haven't really done their homework -- especially if their day-to-day lifestyle doesn't allow them the time to properly scout/evaluate these guys.

Yes I apologize for myself and others 'wild takes'. If only we had your amazing talent evaluation skills.

That post was aimed at the "Jon K likes Coby White at No. 4" comment, but you can get emotional if you'd like.

PorkChop wrote:I think I'm in favor of taking Brandon Clark. He's athletic and an immediate upgrade defensively . If he pans out it would make Saric and Or Gibsonexpendable or at the very least Gorgi would never see the floor. The PF position might be the least athletic in the league.

Pork - I'm leaning that way too among the players likely to be available at #10 or lower. Brandon reminds me of John Collins - long, athletic, agile quick jumper. He's a better shot blocker than Collins but not as good on the boards.

I'm just not impressed with any of the PGs other than Morant and Garland. I'm not impressed by Coby White. And I'm not impressed by any of the wings other than Barrett. Even if Culver falls, I've found him underwhelming. Keldon Johnson has fallen way down on my list. I'm still intrigued by Alexander-Walker, but he disappointed me a bit in the tournament.

So I think our best bets at #10 will be bigs. No way Hunter will fall to #10. Otherwise, he'd be my choice. I'm hoping Doumbouya or Jaxon Hayes will fall to us, but I'm not counting on it. So that leaves Brandon Clark.

But along way to go and a lot to learn before coming to any final conclusions.

For those championing for Clark, what are you drafting him for? Is it for his defensive potential -- where he does not project to be a game-changer other than the occasional highlight block? Or is it for his offensive game -- where he's underdeveloped for a 22-year old who lacks a perimeter shot and a basic back to the basket post game?

His best selling point is his athleticism, but again, I'd caution against drafting guys that rely on their athleticism so heavily.

Bol Bol just doesn't look like he'll be able to add to his frame. Doumbouya might.

Camden0916 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:So many wild takes come out around this time [draft season] every year. And of course, they usually come from those that haven't really done their homework -- especially if their day-to-day lifestyle doesn't allow them the time to properly scout/evaluate these guys.

Yes I apologize for myself and others 'wild takes'. If only we had your amazing talent evaluation skills.

That post was aimed at the "Jon K likes Coby White at No. 4" comment, but you can get emotional if you'd like.

Oh yeah Cam I did think that Jon K's comment was a bit wild which was a bit surprising for him. I think the people that like White see him as sort of a De'Aaron Fox but it probably more like Zach Lavine in terms of his basketball IQ and isn't the athlete that either of those guys are. I'm not sure what kind of shooter he really is either.

Ultimately I'm mostly waiting now to see how various guys measure out. That's not the end all be all for me but I'd say Clark measures out with somewhat less than impressive length (supposed to be like 6'8") that's gonna be a legit hit to his stock with me. How big/long are some of these perimeter players? It's still early in my process of evaluating guys.

monsterpile wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:

Camden0916 wrote:So many wild takes come out around this time [draft season] every year. And of course, they usually come from those that haven't really done their homework -- especially if their day-to-day lifestyle doesn't allow them the time to properly scout/evaluate these guys.

Yes I apologize for myself and others 'wild takes'. If only we had your amazing talent evaluation skills.

That post was aimed at the "Jon K likes Coby White at No. 4" comment, but you can get emotional if you'd like.

Oh yeah Cam I did think that Jon K's comment was a bit wild which was a bit surprising for him. I think the people that like White see him as sort of a De'Aaron Fox but it probably more like Zach Lavine in terms of his basketball IQ and isn't the athlete that either of those guys are. I'm not sure what kind of shooter he really is either.

Ultimately I'm mostly waiting now to see how various guys measure out. That's not the end all be all for me but I'd say Clark measures out with somewhat less than impressive length (supposed to be like 6'8") that's gonna be a legit hit to his stock with me. How big/long are some of these perimeter players? It's still early in my process of evaluating guys.

Monster - I agree with your take on Coby White. He strikes me as a guy who won't translate well beyond college. I also agree that pre-draft measurements will be particularly important for some prospects like Clark to see if their areas of strength can translate to the NBA. So far Clark's strength in college has been rim protection. He's clearly a terrific athlete with great hops. His length will tell us whether he can be a shot-blocker and rebounder in the NBA. I suspect he has long arms, so I think he'll come in with an overhead reach of around 8'11. That's plenty long for an athletic player who's quick off his feet to be a very good PF and block shots in the NBA. I'm not too concerned about his age as I think he's a late bloomer. If he measures as long as I suspect he will, then his shot will be another key factor. He apparently completely revamped his shooting mechanics when he transferred and it appears to be paying off so far. He intrigues me, but there's a lot more to know about him before I'd pull the trigger drafting him.