Carlos Danger wrote:The crazy thing about Water's comments is they could lead to a mistrial. If that happens, will people blame her? Or will they use that as fuel to say "the system is rigged"?
Here's what the judge said about it in case anyone missed it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sup-BYt8FG8
I saw that live and had no idea what they were talking about at the time. I am sure the jury feels insane pressure and they know that if they acquit then have to have a very good reason and will face threats against themselves and their family. If he is acquitted on any charges in this case then I would say certainly justice prevailed because it would be so much easier to roll with a conviction.
I did see that. Crazy. Has anyone ever served on a jury? I have not. I know they are not supposed to watch the news or talk to anyone about the case. I just wonder if that is reality? I personally would have a tough time not glancing at my phone for news updates/opinions/analysis. Do they take away their phones?
I am not sure how they try to manage this. The defense planted a lot of seeds for why to sequester throughout the process. Did you see that the PR lady got hammered by the judge for taking pictures outside the courtroom?
With every hour that the jury sequesters, I'm more convinced WildWolf's fears are about to happen. I still think the manslaughter charge is a slam dunk, but I suspect they are hung up on the Murder 2 and Murder 3 charges, and the longer they go, the more I think he will be acquitted on those charges. My daughter and boyfriend live in the inner city, and their bags are packed...ready to take back roads to come stay with us in the safe burbs.
I wish Biden would have waited to make his comments about the outcome he wants, but at least he waited until the jury was sequestered. Still misguided, but not at a Maxine Waters level.
AbeVigodaLive wrote:I served on my first jury a few months ago.
Even though it was a criminal case... it was absolutely nothing like what these jurors have to deal with. Yikes.
We were basically just told "don't research this case" and "don't talk about it." We had our phones with us the entire time.
That's interesting. I assumed they wouldn't be able to take phones as nobody can live without them these days. But by that same token, in today's modern electronic world, I just don't know how a juror couldn't get tainted by simply glancing at their home page and seeing headlines (I'm referring specifically to this high profile case - not yours).
AbeVigodaLive wrote:I served on my first jury a few months ago.
Even though it was a criminal case... it was absolutely nothing like what these jurors have to deal with. Yikes.
We were basically just told "don't research this case" and "don't talk about it." We had our phones with us the entire time.
That's interesting. I assumed they wouldn't be able to take phones as nobody can live without them these days. But by that same token, in today's modern electronic world, I just don't know how a juror couldn't get tainted by simply glancing at their home page and seeing headlines (I'm referring specifically to this high profile case - not yours).
Well... not in the courtroom... but whenever we went back to the holding pen or whatever... we could do what we wanted.
What's interesting is that during jury selection, they asked SO MANY race questions that I actually thought the bald defendant was a white supremacist or something (before they told us what the alleged crime was). He was not. And race had nothing to do with the alleged victim nor defendant. Best guess is that they were asked because the prosecuting lawyer and one of the cops were minorities.
So I can't even imagine how much they focused on it during the Chauvin trial jury selection.
FNG wrote:With every hour that the jury sequesters, I'm more convinced WildWolf's fears are about to happen. I still think the manslaughter charge is a slam dunk, but I suspect they are hung up on the Murder 2 and Murder 3 charges, and the longer they go, the more I think he will be acquitted on those charges. My daughter and boyfriend live in the inner city, and their bags are packed...ready to take back roads to come stay with us in the safe burbs.
I wish Biden would have waited to make his comments about the outcome he wants, but at least he waited until the jury was sequestered. Still misguided, but not at a Maxine Waters level.
Both Biden and Waters are complicit in the riots that are about to ensue. Neither one of those cretins are running the country, so they should have just kept their cocksuckers shut. I'll be staying out of Portland this week, and would encourage my friends on the board to do the same, no matter what major city you are near.
FNG wrote:With every hour that the jury sequesters, I'm more convinced WildWolf's fears are about to happen. I still think the manslaughter charge is a slam dunk, but I suspect they are hung up on the Murder 2 and Murder 3 charges, and the longer they go, the more I think he will be acquitted on those charges. My daughter and boyfriend live in the inner city, and their bags are packed...ready to take back roads to come stay with us in the safe burbs.
I wish Biden would have waited to make his comments about the outcome he wants, but at least he waited until the jury was sequestered. Still misguided, but not at a Maxine Waters level.
Both Biden and Waters are complicit in the riots that are about to ensue. Neither one of those cretins are running the country, so they should have just kept their cocksuckers shut. I'll be staying out of Portland this week, and would encourage my friends on the board to do the same, no matter what major city you are near.
"cretins"... "cocksuckers"...
Easy there, fella. Chill. Relax. Calm down. Take it easy. Breathe...in. Breathe... out.
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Back to the land of the calm and collected... yes. Ideally, Biden wouldn't have said anything. Let this already politically/racially charged event run its course in our judicial system without any public-influencing opinions (even if thinly veiled like Biden did).
Even though he didn't come remotely close to saying anything like Waters did... those who are against his "cocksucking cretin" type is going to paint the lines in bright neon colors to try to equate the two. And that's too bad. It causes further discord... even if it's at the feet of those who come unhinged online or elsewhere.
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I still say these threads have no place on the Wolves forum. And I think we all know why...
bleedspeed177 wrote:My wife and I were talking about a few of these things.
1. Floyd and Wright's incidents are not racial events or hate crimes. They racial brewed political and media-made events.
2. We wonder how immigration has changed historically. Early on it was a promise of opportunity and struggle, but today it seems to be a place of safety and welfare. We seem to have groups importing immigrants instead of those individuals making the tough decision. Is it a reality? Is that the right strategy?
3. We are sick of our freedoms and liberties being limited due to inciters of race wars.
4. Why is there not a call for self-accountability?
Those are some interesting generalizations about immigration in various time periods. There were many groups of people early in this country's history that were not coming here for just opportunity but to escape unsafe conditions. Who are these groups you speak about bringing in immigrants? Are they bringing them in against their own will and forcing them into slavery? Ah the golden age of the early part of our country.
