Wolves vs Celtics (No Irving, Covington, Rose or Teague)

[BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]]

With every game Teague misses, the more he leans on opting in next year. And with Rose getting hurt based on Thibs playing him like 2011 Rose, and Tyus playing better, we gonna have a pg mess next year.

I'm pretty sure Thibs lets Tyus walk.

Wash out your mouth, Thibs will be fired!

Most likely as we'll probably miss the playoffs. Hopefully new coach Jay Wright will get Tyus back and Teague will be gone.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

TD Garden playing "Crazy Train" as a prelude to tip-off. I mean, really? I swear some of these arena sound system folks are the least creative people on earth.

The subway used to go right past the Boston Garden... does it go right by the new place, too? That could be a reason for that old song.

I believe it does, although still, it's such a cliche song. It's like when teams play the GnR opening to Welcome to the Jungle....been there, done that, heard it a gazzilion times. Come up with something more innovative. I wil say I liked the Bulls Allan Parsons Project Eye in the Sky opening back "in the day". Not sure if they still do that. If so, they should have moved on after Jordan left.

Pro arena sound effects and songs is one of my pet peeves, as so much of it is canned shit you hear in nearly every stadium. And even the stuff the Wolves do that is unique, like the dumb howling on opponent free throws, has gotten old.

I'm not disagreeing that using an Ozzy Osbourne song from 30 years ago isn't a bad thing... only adding context.

Heck, I remember thinking that "Welcome to the Jungle" before our high school football games was cliched back in the day... so...



[Note: What's worse... the canned music or the overzealous yelling, screaming announcer that some arenas employ?]

Both are bad, but the canned sound effects and cliched songs get me the most. Oh, the Harry Belafonte Day-O song....that one too needs to be put down for good. Just so over-used, yuck.

[Coolbreeze44]

Fuck you Doris

Watch the local broadcast

I can't. It's ridiculous they have that dumb dyke on Men's games.

Cool is either a catholic or lives in Coon Rapids.


Whoa. That escalated quickly...

The former. But i was way out of line nonetheless.

[WildWolf2813]

Tolliver gets paid to do one thing well and he can't do it. Classic Timberwolves for ya.

Exactly what I was afraid of when we brought him back

[Leado01]

Again. not sure you can sit a guy for most of 20 games and expect him to contribute. It's their job to remain ready,  but it's hard to emulate gametime experience at shootarounds.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Wigs starts missing free throws at exactly the wrong time. Sigh.

Ya. He's tired he is on 25 consecutive game minutes

Wow, yeah, he and Tyus have had no break.

I think alot of our 4th q mishaps the last couple of years can be attributed to thibs' mismanagement of minutes.

35 minutes are doable, but thibs consistently puts guys out there for 15+ minute stretches.

I'm with you, c-c...I'm not willing to give thibs a break on this one, even with 3 players out. Yes, the bench was terrible last night, but I put that on Thibs too...his calling card as a coach has always been to ride his starters too much, and to have his bench underperform because he doesnt trust them or use them. Other coaches coach and develop their entire rosters, and as a result their reserves are ready to step up when called on.
Does anyone really think Terry Rozier would be as successful if he was coached by Thibs instead of Stevens? I never saw Rozier as a future pro when I watched him at Louisville, and he certainly would be languishing on Thibs' bench if he had drafted him. But Stevens drafts and develops him, and Rozier steps up when Irving gets hurt. Meanwhile, a guy like Bayless gets 23 minutes on a 52 win team last year, but can only get 5 on a night when 2 PGs are out hurt? I know the Thibs apologists will point out how ineffective Bayless was last night, but they have their cause and effect wrong...Bayless didn't get five minutes last night because he is a bad player, he got five minutes last night because Thibs doesn't trust him and preferred to run Tyus into the ground. Like he always does.

Playing 3 starters 43, 40 and 37 minutes while Boston plays nobody more than 32 minutes is a prescription for disaster both for the 4th quarter and the season. Many of us questioned why Thibs played Rose and RoCo 40 minutes coming back from injuries and, sure enough, now they are both out with injuries. I've held back this year on criticizing Thib's absurdly out-of-step rotations, but the last couple weeks have really pissed me off. This guy needs to go...today.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Didn't see the final three quarters, but liked some things in the box score. I understand KAT struggled in the first half, but his overall stats show he has moved to a totally different level...his ceiling is very high. Nice to see Wig finally have a great offensive game...12 free throw attempts during a season in which he is averaging only 4 is quite encouraging. Tyus had an uncharacteristic 4 TOs and a minus 9, but put up an impressive 9 assists and 14 points on 50% shooting.

But I turned the game off when Wig showed in the first quarter why he will never realize anywhere near his enormous potential. The non-hustle play that Doris Burke ripped him about displayed Wig's biggest drawback...he has no heart.

[kekgeek]

Wigs starts missing free throws at exactly the wrong time. Sigh.

Ya. He's tired he is on 25 consecutive game minutes

Wow, yeah, he and Tyus have had no break.

I think alot of our 4th q mishaps the last couple of years can be attributed to thibs' mismanagement of minutes.

35 minutes are doable, but thibs consistently puts guys out there for 15+ minute stretches.

I'm with you, c-c...I'm not willing to give thibs a break on this one, even with 3 players out. Yes, the bench was terrible last night, but I put that on Thibs too...his calling card as a coach has always been to ride his starters too much, and to have his bench underperform because he doesnt trust them or use them. Other coaches coach and develop their entire rosters, and as a result their reserves are ready to step up when called on.
Does anyone really think Terry Rozier would be as successful if he was coached by Thibs instead of Stevens? I never saw Rozier as a future pro when I watched him at Louisville, and he certainly would be languishing on Thibs' bench if he had drafted him. But Stevens drafts and develops him, and Rozier steps up when Irving gets hurt. Meanwhile, a guy like Bayless gets 23 minutes on a 52 win team last year, but can only get 5 on a night when 2 PGs are out hurt? I know the Thibs apologists will point out how ineffective Bayless was last night, but they have their cause and effect wrong...Bayless didn't get five minutes last night because he is a bad player, he got five minutes last night because Thibs doesn't trust him and preferred to run Tyus into the ground. Like he always does.

Playing 3 starters 43, 40 and 37 minutes while Boston plays nobody more than 32 minutes is a prescription for disaster both for the 4th quarter and the season. Many of us questioned why Thibs played Rose and RoCo 40 minutes coming back from injuries and, sure enough, now they are both out with injuries. I've held back this year on criticizing Thib's absurdly out-of-step rotations, but the last couple weeks have really pissed me off. This guy needs to go...today.

You are making up a false narrative this year. We have no player in the top 20 in minutes. Cov comes in 24th.

He was in a no win situation. We lose last night no matter what we did. Every single bench guy was trash. Kat was trash in the 1st half allowing a huge hole to dig out of in the 2nd half.

We weren't winning yesterday

[kekgeek]

Didn't see the final three quarters, but liked some things in the box score. I understand KAT struggled in the first half, but his overall stats show he has moved to a totally different level...his ceiling is very high. Nice to see Wig finally have a great offensive game...12 free throw attempts during a season in which he is averaging only 4 is quite encouraging. Tyus had an uncharacteristic 4 TOs and a minus 9, but put up an impressive 9 assists and 14 points on 50% shooting.

But I turned the game off when Wig showed in the first quarter why he will never realize anywhere near his enormous potential. The non-hustle play that Doris Burke ripped him about displayed Wig's biggest drawback...he has no heart.

You are making my point from the above. You didn't watch the last 3 quarters. Thibs tried to go to some bench guys in the 4th and the celtics quickly extended the lead.

I hate pulling this card but no matter what thibs did last night we were going to lose

[AbeVigodaLive]

Wigs starts missing free throws at exactly the wrong time. Sigh.

Ya. He's tired he is on 25 consecutive game minutes

Wow, yeah, he and Tyus have had no break.

I think alot of our 4th q mishaps the last couple of years can be attributed to thibs' mismanagement of minutes.

35 minutes are doable, but thibs consistently puts guys out there for 15+ minute stretches.

I'm with you, c-c...I'm not willing to give thibs a break on this one, even with 3 players out. Yes, the bench was terrible last night, but I put that on Thibs too...his calling card as a coach has always been to ride his starters too much, and to have his bench underperform because he doesnt trust them or use them. Other coaches coach and develop their entire rosters, and as a result their reserves are ready to step up when called on.
Does anyone really think Terry Rozier would be as successful if he was coached by Thibs instead of Stevens? I never saw Rozier as a future pro when I watched him at Louisville, and he certainly would be languishing on Thibs' bench if he had drafted him. But Stevens drafts and develops him, and Rozier steps up when Irving gets hurt. Meanwhile, a guy like Bayless gets 23 minutes on a 52 win team last year, but can only get 5 on a night when 2 PGs are out hurt? I know the Thibs apologists will point out how ineffective Bayless was last night, but they have their cause and effect wrong...Bayless didn't get five minutes last night because he is a bad player, he got five minutes last night because Thibs doesn't trust him and preferred to run Tyus into the ground. Like he always does.

Playing 3 starters 43, 40 and 37 minutes while Boston plays nobody more than 32 minutes is a prescription for disaster both for the 4th quarter and the season. Many of us questioned why Thibs played Rose and RoCo 40 minutes coming back from injuries and, sure enough, now they are both out with injuries. I've held back this year on criticizing Thib's absurdly out-of-step rotations, but the last couple weeks have really pissed me off. This guy needs to go...today.

You are making up a false narrative this year. We have no player in the top 20 in minutes. Cov comes in 24th.

He was in a no win situation. We lose last night no matter what we did. Every single bench guy was trash. Kat was trash in the 1st half allowing a huge hole to dig out of in the 2nd half.

We weren't winning yesterday

The boy who cried THIBS!

Blaming Thibs for a horrible loss... when you missed the last three quarters is more than a bit over-the-top. The Celtics shot 59% for chrissakes. They were up by 18 points at halftime.

Bayless couldn't even execute calling a random timeout just beyond halfcourt without getting the ball stolen. James Nunnally came in for 3 minutes. In that time... a broken-down Gordon Hayward drove by him twice for easy buckets... not just for a layup. But he ended up ahead of Nunnally by several steps. It was alarming how bad the guy was defensively. I can't recall seeing another Wolves player beaten THAT badly... and obviously, that's saying something. The 3rd time Hayward got the ball vs. Nunnally, he drove by him again but passed out for a wide open three pointer.

Nunnally was unplayable. Literally... unplayable. But hey... Thibby Thibs Thibs THIBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!