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Not to hijack here but former vikes coordinator Kevin Stefanski being mentioned for coach of the year in Cleveland. See it's not just the wolves who can't identify talent!

BizarroJerry wrote:Not to hijack here but former vikes coordinator Kevin Stefanski being mentioned for coach of the year in Cleveland. See it's not just the wolves who can't identify talent!

Only the Vikings could give the Steelers their coach for the next 20 years in Tomlin to stick with Childress and then proceed to do it again with Stefanski to the Browns with Zimmer.

khans2k5 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:Not to hijack here but former vikes coordinator Kevin Stefanski being mentioned for coach of the year in Cleveland. See it's not just the wolves who can't identify talent!

Only the Vikings could give the Steelers their coach for the next 20 years in Tomlin to stick with Childress and then proceed to do it again with Stefanski to the Browns with Zimmer.

I like Stefanski but...Cleveland has a slightly worse point differential than the Vikings do this season. The Browns were 6-10 last year and were a big disappointment (I watched like half their games last year) and I personally felt the coaching staff was to blame because it legitimately seemed like a pretty talented team. Being better than Freddie Kitchens isn't exactly a high bar.

khans2k5 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:Not to hijack here but former vikes coordinator Kevin Stefanski being mentioned for coach of the year in Cleveland. See it's not just the wolves who can't identify talent!

Only the Vikings could give the Steelers their coach for the next 20 years in Tomlin to stick with Childress and then proceed to do it again with Stefanski to the Browns with Zimmer.

I will never understand that move. Tomlin's talent as a coach was so obviously great, while the others were so obviously terrible.

Zimmer should be fired. He is supposed to be a defensive db guru, yet he has been supplied with constant #1 or #2 picks of CBs and we suck in the secondary. We just let 3 of them walk.

Spielman should also be fired. He has failed to build an O-line for 10ish years, and paid a guy that plays best behind an o-line.

Spielman has hit on a quite a few rough diamonds in later rounds, as all teams do by chance, but his track record first and second round sucks.

TheFuture wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:Not to hijack here but former vikes coordinator Kevin Stefanski being mentioned for coach of the year in Cleveland. See it's not just the wolves who can't identify talent!

Only the Vikings could give the Steelers their coach for the next 20 years in Tomlin to stick with Childress and then proceed to do it again with Stefanski to the Browns with Zimmer.

I will never understand that move. Tomlin's talent as a coach was so obviously great, while the others were so obviously terrible.

Zimmer should be fired. He is supposed to be a defensive db guru, yet he has been supplied with constant #1 or #2 picks of CBs and we suck in the secondary. We just let 3 of them walk.

Spielman should also be fired. He has failed to build an O-line for 10ish years, and paid a guy that plays best behind an o-line.

Spielman has hit on a quite a few rough diamonds in later rounds, as all teams do by chance, but his track record first and second round sucks.

Sometimes?

He's hit big on Jefferson, Cook, Kendricks, Barr, Rhodes, Harrison Smith, Rudolph, Peterson and Rice in Rounds 1 + 2.

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

TheFuture wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:Not to hijack here but former vikes coordinator Kevin Stefanski being mentioned for coach of the year in Cleveland. See it's not just the wolves who can't identify talent!

Only the Vikings could give the Steelers their coach for the next 20 years in Tomlin to stick with Childress and then proceed to do it again with Stefanski to the Browns with Zimmer.

I will never understand that move. Tomlin's talent as a coach was so obviously great, while the others were so obviously terrible.

Zimmer should be fired. He is supposed to be a defensive db guru, yet he has been supplied with constant #1 or #2 picks of CBs and we suck in the secondary. We just let 3 of them walk.

Spielman should also be fired. He has failed to build an O-line for 10ish years, and paid a guy that plays best behind an o-line.

Spielman has hit on a quite a few rough diamonds in later rounds, as all teams do by chance, but his track record first and second round sucks.

Sometimes?

He's hit big on Jefferson, Cook, Kendricks, Barr, Rhodes, Harrison Smith, Rudolph, Peterson and Rice in Rounds 1 + 2.

That's actually pretty impressive. At least a couple of surefire HOFers, no? Jefferson looks like an amazing talent.

Someone that knows more about football than me can confirm this...Isn't Rhodes having a big bounce-back year after looking way past his prime and being targeted last year? If so, that is very Wolves-esque for him to move to a different team and have vastly more success.

Q12543 wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

TheFuture wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:Not to hijack here but former vikes coordinator Kevin Stefanski being mentioned for coach of the year in Cleveland. See it's not just the wolves who can't identify talent!

Only the Vikings could give the Steelers their coach for the next 20 years in Tomlin to stick with Childress and then proceed to do it again with Stefanski to the Browns with Zimmer.

I will never understand that move. Tomlin's talent as a coach was so obviously great, while the others were so obviously terrible.

Zimmer should be fired. He is supposed to be a defensive db guru, yet he has been supplied with constant #1 or #2 picks of CBs and we suck in the secondary. We just let 3 of them walk.

Spielman should also be fired. He has failed to build an O-line for 10ish years, and paid a guy that plays best behind an o-line.

Spielman has hit on a quite a few rough diamonds in later rounds, as all teams do by chance, but his track record first and second round sucks.

Sometimes?

He's hit big on Jefferson, Cook, Kendricks, Barr, Rhodes, Harrison Smith, Rudolph, Peterson and Rice in Rounds 1 + 2.

That's actually pretty impressive. At least a couple of surefire HOFers, no? Jefferson looks like an amazing talent.

Someone that knows more about football than me can confirm this...Isn't Rhodes having a big bounce-back year after looking way past his prime and being targeted last year? If so, that is very Wolves-esque for him to move to a different team and have vastly more success.

Seems like Rhodes is grading out right on par with his '16 and '17 seasons according to PFF.

I disagree on the life after the Wolves take though. I think time with the Wolves actually breaks most players. I can't think of that many that left and got significantly better after Billups...

Q12543 wrote:

AbeVigodaLive wrote:

TheFuture wrote:

khans2k5 wrote:

BizarroJerry wrote:Not to hijack here but former vikes coordinator Kevin Stefanski being mentioned for coach of the year in Cleveland. See it's not just the wolves who can't identify talent!

Only the Vikings could give the Steelers their coach for the next 20 years in Tomlin to stick with Childress and then proceed to do it again with Stefanski to the Browns with Zimmer.

I will never understand that move. Tomlin's talent as a coach was so obviously great, while the others were so obviously terrible.

Zimmer should be fired. He is supposed to be a defensive db guru, yet he has been supplied with constant #1 or #2 picks of CBs and we suck in the secondary. We just let 3 of them walk.

Spielman should also be fired. He has failed to build an O-line for 10ish years, and paid a guy that plays best behind an o-line.

Spielman has hit on a quite a few rough diamonds in later rounds, as all teams do by chance, but his track record first and second round sucks.

Sometimes?

He's hit big on Jefferson, Cook, Kendricks, Barr, Rhodes, Harrison Smith, Rudolph, Peterson and Rice in Rounds 1 + 2.

That's actually pretty impressive. At least a couple of surefire HOFers, no? Jefferson looks like an amazing talent.

Someone that knows more about football than me can confirm this...Isn't Rhodes having a big bounce-back year after looking way past his prime and being targeted last year? If so, that is very Wolves-esque for him to move to a different team and have vastly more success.

I think fans always think it's greener on the other side. I love spielman. Like look at your draft class, seems like we got for sure 4 NFL starting players in Jefferson, Danzler, Gladney, Cleveland with Jefferson being HOF talent. Wonum looks like a good pick also with 3 sacks in only 10 games.

Obviously if you do it this long you are going to have misses in the 1st round. He misses on Kalil (was an 1 time pro-bowler though), Treadwell was for sure shit, Patterson (top 5 returner of all time), Floyd (Good player but surgery was screwed up and ended his career), Hughes (injuries).

He's had 15 seasons with a player personal role for the Vikings. Only 2 times did the Vikings draft in the top 10.

He's a great GM and will be a massive loss of he goes