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Here is my dream offseason.

Dlo and 2 2nd in a sign and trade for lavine
Beasley and #19 for Turner
Sign Tyus to the MLE

Tyus/jmac/Wright
Ant/bev/ Nowell
Lavine/Mcdaniels/Bolmaro
Kat/Vando/ prince
Turner/Naz/ knight

Short, sweet, and to the point Kek.

I'll nit-pick a bit.

- I don't view Zach LaVine as a good fit for this team. We need high IQ defenders and spot-up shooters. Zach can certainly shoot, but I still question his overall b-ball IQ and defensive chops. Plus we already have two high usage scorers in KAT and Ant.

- Turner on paper seems like an almost ideal fit next to KAT. But, I have two concerns: 1) He's injury prone, and 2) He doesn't really fit stylistically with our high-wall/low-man defensive scheme. He's more of a drop coverage kind of guy. May be that's OK. May be we start games playing a more traditional drop scheme since KAT and Turner give us a ton of size on the interior. And then the bench comes in with Vando and Reid to play more of the scrambling style of defense.

- As I said in the playoff thread, I'm really warming up to Tyus Jones (in a serious way, not just to troll Cam and Abe that he's better than Morant!). The more I think about how this team takes the next step, I'm not sure a high-usage type PG like DLO is the way to go. This is less about being anti-DLO and more about roster construction. It's still a risk though, as the DLO-KAT combo won us a lot of games.

I "liked" kek's post because it was creative and well thought out. And on the surface it sure looked exciting. But Q's post is spot on with respect to Turner and Zach...I like them both, but they're not right for this team.

Wait...Abe was joking with his Tyus>>>Ja post? I'm not good at picking up on sarcasm :LOL: .

Seriously though, I suspect there might be some "Tyus to Minnesota" steam this summer if Gupta can find a suitable deal for DLo (without a DLo deal, obviously we're set at PG). He's a home town boy and spends a lot of time here, and he would likely get excited about handing out dimes to KAT and Ant...both more prolific scorers than the Grizzlies he has been feeding (other than Ja when they play together). My guess is it will be difficult to move DLo though, so bringing Tyus home is a pipe dream. With Wright IV in the mix, Finchy already has 4 PGs to consider.

Let's modify this a bit Kek:
Sign Tyus to the MLE
DLO, Beasley, and #19 to Boston for Grant Williams and Marcus Smart

Presto, we are a title contender.

DLo Beasley and #19 for Fred Van Vleet and Precious Achiuwa.

CoolBreeze44 wrote:Let's modify this a bit Kek:
Sign Tyus to the MLE
DLO, Beasley, and #19 to Boston for Grant Williams and Marcus Smart

Presto, we are a title contender.

So I like every player you mentioned and should make the wolves an elite defensive team. Just worried about the lack of shot creation. Because Smart, Tyus and Williams all are not great in those situations

thedoper wrote:DLo Beasley and #19 for Fred Van Vleet and Precious Achiuwa.

I love FVV but I think Beasley is too much of an overlap to Trent for the Raptors and I don't think the #19 pick does enough for the Raptors to move on from FVV

kekgeek1 wrote:

thedoper wrote:DLo Beasley and #19 for Fred Van Vleet and Precious Achiuwa.

I love FVV but I think Beasley is too much of an overlap to Trent for the Raptors and I don't think the #19 pick does enough for the Raptors to move on from FVV

Yeah I was definitely dreaming. Somehow I look at the Raptors big picture as a team that has a wealth of talent that may want to shake things up. Not sure their core 3 of Barnes, FVV, and Siakim will be their long term plans. There may be a deal somewhere but definitely not the straight up one I was suggesting.

Q-was-here wrote:Short, sweet, and to the point Kek.

I'll nit-pick a bit.

- I don't view Zach LaVine as a good fit for this team. We need high IQ defenders and spot-up shooters. Zach can certainly shoot, but I still question his overall b-ball IQ and defensive chops. Plus we already have two high usage scorers in KAT and Ant.

- Turner on paper seems like an almost ideal fit next to KAT. But, I have two concerns: 1) He's injury prone, and 2) He doesn't really fit stylistically with our high-wall/low-man defensive scheme. He's more of a drop coverage kind of guy. May be that's OK. May be we start games playing a more traditional drop scheme since KAT and Turner give us a ton of size on the interior. And then the bench comes in with Vando and Reid to play more of the scrambling style of defense.

- As I said in the playoff thread, I'm really warming up to Tyus Jones (in a serious way, not just to troll Cam and Abe that he's better than Morant!). The more I think about how this team takes the next step, I'm not sure a high-usage type PG like DLO is the way to go. This is less about being anti-DLO and more about roster construction. It's still a risk though, as the DLO-KAT combo won us a lot of games.

So I get your point on lavine (he is also having knee surgery this offseason). I will just never really complain about adding an elite scorer who is good off ball also. He is also a great rebounder for his position. His defense has improved. Still not great but its better.

The Turner thing is interesting. If I'm being honest I'm not the biggest Turner fan. The thing is I think the Wolves need an improvement next to Kat. I just don't know who that player is. Like people have mentioned Nurkic and Drummond, personally those 2 guys get played off the floor in the playoffs so I don't want to pay those guys. Collins would be a solid fit but I do think he is overpaid. Jalen Smith would be a flyer but I don't think the wolves can get him for real cheap and I don't want to pay a flyer MLE money when so many wolves extensions are up. I think Isaac from a basketball standpoint is a great fit but his off the court opinions and injury history are probably a no for this specific locker room. I just don't know who that player is to play next to Kat. It legit might be internal improvements to Vando

kekgeek1 wrote:

Q-was-here wrote:Short, sweet, and to the point Kek.

I'll nit-pick a bit.

- I don't view Zach LaVine as a good fit for this team. We need high IQ defenders and spot-up shooters. Zach can certainly shoot, but I still question his overall b-ball IQ and defensive chops. Plus we already have two high usage scorers in KAT and Ant.

- Turner on paper seems like an almost ideal fit next to KAT. But, I have two concerns: 1) He's injury prone, and 2) He doesn't really fit stylistically with our high-wall/low-man defensive scheme. He's more of a drop coverage kind of guy. May be that's OK. May be we start games playing a more traditional drop scheme since KAT and Turner give us a ton of size on the interior. And then the bench comes in with Vando and Reid to play more of the scrambling style of defense.

- As I said in the playoff thread, I'm really warming up to Tyus Jones (in a serious way, not just to troll Cam and Abe that he's better than Morant!). The more I think about how this team takes the next step, I'm not sure a high-usage type PG like DLO is the way to go. This is less about being anti-DLO and more about roster construction. It's still a risk though, as the DLO-KAT combo won us a lot of games.

So I get your point on lavine (he is also having knee surgery this offseason). I will just never really complain about adding an elite scorer who is good off ball also. He is also a great rebounder for his position. His defense has improved. Still not great but its better.

The Turner thing is interesting. If I'm being honest I'm not the biggest Turner fan. The thing is I think the Wolves need an improvement next to Kat. I just don't know who that player is. Like people have mentioned Nurkic and Drummond, personally those 2 guys get played off the floor in the playoffs so I don't want to pay those guys. Collins would be a solid fit but I do think he is overpaid. Jalen Smith would be a flyer but I don't think the wolves can get him for real cheap and I don't want to pay a flyer MLE money when so many wolves extensions are up. I think Isaac from a basketball standpoint is a great fit but his off the court opinions and injury history are probably a no for this specific locker room. I just don't know who that player is to play next to Kat. It legit might be internal improvements to Vando

I'm not sure we can land the ideal big next to KAT. His name is Al Horford and we can't have him!

Even if we get the big Center that gets played off the floor in the playoffs (Drummond, Hartenstein, Turner), that doesn't mean he isn't valuable. A guy like Steven Adams is a perfect example. He was totally played off the floor against KAT, but he was a big part of Memphis's regular season success and helped them get that high seed and home court advantage to begin with. There is absolutely value to that. And he's actually been re-inserted in the lineup against Golden State recently and had some success!

I just think we need an 18-25 MPG legit big man in our tool bag. Obviously it can't be some lumbering oaf, but someone with some real skills and experience. There are a good handful of solid options out there.