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Kelly Oubre
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:11 pm
by Monster
I listened to a somewhat recent podcast where Wolfson said he has heard Oubre was available. Bobby marks was on that episode and he said he has heard the same thing. He is only signed for 1 more year what would you give up to get him?
Re: Kelly Oubre
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:25 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
James Johnson and the 17th overall pick for Kelly Oubre
Probably not enough to get him, but that's not a trade where I'd be willing to offer a whole lot. And I'd also need Oubre to agree to an extension or new contract.
Re: Kelly Oubre
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:37 pm
by Monster
Camden0916 wrote:James Johnson and the 17th overall pick for Kelly Oubre
Probably not enough to get him, but that's not a trade where I'd be willing to offer a whole lot. And I'd also need Oubre to agree to an extension or new contract.
That's about what I was thinking. I wonder if they would need to have it sweetened just a bit more if for not other reason that Johnson makes 2 million more in salary. Maybe they would have interest in Spellman. I don't think Oubre can agree to a new contract at this point in the 2nd year of a 2 year deal. It would be interesting to know what his value is around the league.
Remember the Suns dumped a worthwhile player in TJ Warren because they didn't want to pay him. If the Suns ended up turning Ariza into Like a year and a half of Oubre and then #17 that would be pretty decent IMO. James Johnson has some value too he isn't just filler.
Re: Kelly Oubre
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:59 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
monsterpile wrote:Camden0916 wrote:James Johnson and the 17th overall pick for Kelly Oubre
Probably not enough to get him, but that's not a trade where I'd be willing to offer a whole lot. And I'd also need Oubre to agree to an extension or new contract.
That's about what I was thinking. I wonder if they would need to have it sweetened just a bit more if for not other reason that Johnson makes 2 million more in salary. Maybe they would have interest in Spellman. I don't think Oubre can agree to a new contract at this point in the 2nd year of a 2 year deal. It would be interesting to know what his value is around the league.
Remember the Suns dumped a worthwhile player in TJ Warren because they didn't want to pay him. If the Suns ended up turning Ariza into Like a year and a half of Oubre and then #17 that would be pretty decent IMO. James Johnson has some value too he isn't just filler.
I agree with your takes here, monster. Oubre's value around the league is something that I can't pinpoint exactly. I wouldn't trade down from first overall to 10 for him, though, like I've seen suggested on different media platforms.
However, Oubre would fit almost perfectly with what the Wolves have right now from a play style and roster standpoint. He's long and rangy with an intriguing offensive game and defensive prowess. He'd immediately be Minnesota's best wing if acquired so I could see Gersson Rosas being interested, but ultimately falling short of making a competitive offer for him.
Re: Kelly Oubre
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:35 pm
by thedoper
Oubre would perfect for this team. 17 is not enough, #1 is too much. If by some miracle they love Culver good riddance.
Re: Kelly Oubre
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:36 pm
by KG4Ever
I'd give up DLO for Oubre and Rubio. :d
Re: Kelly Oubre
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:41 pm
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
I'd give them James Johnson and Okogie if they would take it. We have too many guards and need some better wings and Oubre fits that mold. It also leaves 17 open to just take BPA and not have to worry about getting a specific position fit on the team. Okogie is a defensive compliment to Booker and a Rubio/Okogie backcourt for a couple minutes a game would be a interesting defensive wrinkle they can throw out.
I'd feel better going into next season with Russell/Culver/Oubre/Towns/Wiseman than what we are looking at right now. It's still not a playoff team most likely but I see that team trending in the right direction.
Re: Kelly Oubre
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:48 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
khans2k5 wrote:I'd give them James Johnson and Okogie if they would take it. We have too many guards and need some better wings and Oubre fits that mold. It also leaves 17 open to just take BPA and not have to worry about getting a specific position fit on the team. Okogie is a defensive compliment to Booker and a Rubio/Okogie backcourt for a couple minutes a game would be a interesting defensive wrinkle they can throw out.
I'd feel better going into next season with Russell/Culver/Oubre/Towns/Wiseman than what we are looking at right now. It's still not a playoff team most likely but I see that team trending in the right direction.
I would offer that as well, and almost suggested it too, but I would think the cost-controlled asset in the draft pick would be more attractive than two years of Josh Okogie prior to free agency. I could be wrong on that, though, since Okogie is somewhat of a proven commodity -- at least in terms of perimeter defense.
Re: Kelly Oubre
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:10 pm
by Monster
Camden0916 wrote:khans2k5 wrote:I'd give them James Johnson and Okogie if they would take it. We have too many guards and need some better wings and Oubre fits that mold. It also leaves 17 open to just take BPA and not have to worry about getting a specific position fit on the team. Okogie is a defensive compliment to Booker and a Rubio/Okogie backcourt for a couple minutes a game would be a interesting defensive wrinkle they can throw out.
I'd feel better going into next season with Russell/Culver/Oubre/Towns/Wiseman than what we are looking at right now. It's still not a playoff team most likely but I see that team trending in the right direction.
I would offer that as well, and almost suggested it too, but I would think the cost-controlled asset in the draft pick would be more attractive than two years of Josh Okogie prior to free agency. I could be wrong on that, though, since Okogie is somewhat of a proven commodity -- at least in terms of perimeter defense.
It seems like the Suns are letting Oubre go because he is awing they don't want to pay. If they do this trade they basically get 1 cheap year of Okogie and then have to decide if they wanted to pay him. Idk what they are planning to do at PF. Are they planning to keep Saric? Is he their guy there or maybe they plan to play smaller? I would think #17 plus another small asset would be more appealing to them than Okogie unless they were looking to flip Okogie in another deal seeing him as an asset.
Re: Kelly Oubre
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:09 am
by khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]
monsterpile wrote:Camden0916 wrote:khans2k5 wrote:I'd give them James Johnson and Okogie if they would take it. We have too many guards and need some better wings and Oubre fits that mold. It also leaves 17 open to just take BPA and not have to worry about getting a specific position fit on the team. Okogie is a defensive compliment to Booker and a Rubio/Okogie backcourt for a couple minutes a game would be a interesting defensive wrinkle they can throw out.
I'd feel better going into next season with Russell/Culver/Oubre/Towns/Wiseman than what we are looking at right now. It's still not a playoff team most likely but I see that team trending in the right direction.
I would offer that as well, and almost suggested it too, but I would think the cost-controlled asset in the draft pick would be more attractive than two years of Josh Okogie prior to free agency. I could be wrong on that, though, since Okogie is somewhat of a proven commodity -- at least in terms of perimeter defense.
It seems like the Suns are letting Oubre go because he is awing they don't want to pay. If they do this trade they basically get 1 cheap year of Okogie and then have to decide if they wanted to pay him. Idk what they are planning to do at PF. Are they planning to keep Saric? Is he their guy there or maybe they plan to play smaller? I would think #17 plus another small asset would be more appealing to them than Okogie unless they were looking to flip Okogie in another deal seeing him as an asset.
I don't see how Okogie is a guy who's going to get paid relative to a starting wing in Oubre who scored 18 a game. Josh is a defensive specialist who would be a bench piece for them. I don't imagine his pay day being very big if they wanted to keep him or even if we keep him and try to retain him. Who's giving him 10 million a year even to do what he does now? He's gonna have to show some major improvement to get paid more than a middling role player.