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What does success for a new head coach look like?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:04 pm
by mrhockey89
I don't want to hear anyone say "success the rest of this year doesn't have to do with w/l, but rather featuring our star players, player development, and running a more structured system" or anything like that. We all know success is, and should be, measured in wins-losses.
So given the talent levels, ages, and health of our current team, I'm asking people to go on record as to what they would consider a "successful" record for the remainder of the 2020-21 season.
31 games in, record 7-24
41 games remain. I'll say 17-24 would be a successful end to the season. (sad that this is considered success, but given the start of the season I'm lowering my bar). If they repeat what they've done so far then it's a big failure.
Re: What does success for a new head coach look like?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:14 pm
by WildWolf2813
Getting out of the bottom third in offense and defense the rest of the way.
Re: What does success for a new head coach look like?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:26 pm
by worldK
Making Towns THE focal point on offense is a success for me. No one gets to shoot more than KAT unless they are unconciuosly hot. That alone would improve our wins and losses.
Re: What does success for a new head coach look like?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:31 pm
by Coolbreeze44
worldK wrote:Making Towns THE focal point on offense is a success for me. No one gets to shoot more than KAT unless they are unconciuosly hot. That alone would improve our wins and losses.
World, that would be great. But I don't this hire is about that, unless he's just going to hang out at the arc all night. He may even get less shots. The biggest benefactors for shots are Beasley, DLO, Ant, Nowell, and probably Juancho.
Re: What does success for a new head coach look like?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:36 pm
by mrhockey89
I feel like everyone is purposely responding with everything I requested they not do lol
Re: What does success for a new head coach look like?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:38 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
CoolBreeze44 wrote:worldK wrote:Making Towns THE focal point on offense is a success for me. No one gets to shoot more than KAT unless they are unconciuosly hot. That alone would improve our wins and losses.
World, that would be great. But I don't this hire is about that, unless he's just going to hang out at the arc all night. He may even get less shots. The biggest benefactors for shots are Beasley, DLO, Ant, Nowell, and probably Juancho.
After reading about Finch's past stops -- namely Denver and New Orleans -- that doesn't seem likely to be the case. To what degree remains unknown to me, but everything I see points to Finch having
something to do with Nikola Jokic being the focal point of the Nuggets offense and leading to the Pelicans looking at him to do something similar with Anthony Davis and DeMarcus Cousins. It's at least clear to me that he's not going to ignore a talented big on offense, especially one as skilled as Karl-Anthony Towns. Whether it works or not is beyond me, but this hire actually makes sense to me at the surface level.
Re: What does success for a new head coach look like?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:42 pm
by worldK
CoolBreeze44 wrote:worldK wrote:Making Towns THE focal point on offense is a success for me. No one gets to shoot more than KAT unless they are unconciuosly hot. That alone would improve our wins and losses.
World, that would be great. But I don't this hire is about that, unless he's just going to hang out at the arc all night. He may even get less shots. The biggest benefactors for shots are Beasley, DLO, Ant, Nowell, and probably Juancho.
Cool, that is certainly a possibility with rosas around. But if we are selling this hire as a coach who worked with the joker and ad, then this should be about building everything around towns right?
I have no faith in rosas but anyone who watches the nba will tell you that towns is on another tier above the rest of his teammates and its betond stupidity to not play tru KAT. Rosas cant be that dumb, can he?
Re: What does success for a new head coach look like?
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:53 pm
by Coolbreeze44
worldK wrote:CoolBreeze44 wrote:worldK wrote:Making Towns THE focal point on offense is a success for me. No one gets to shoot more than KAT unless they are unconciuosly hot. That alone would improve our wins and losses.
World, that would be great. But I don't this hire is about that, unless he's just going to hang out at the arc all night. He may even get less shots. The biggest benefactors for shots are Beasley, DLO, Ant, Nowell, and probably Juancho.
Cool, that is certainly a possibility with rosas around. But if we are selling this hire as a coach who worked with the joker and ad, then this should be about building everything around towns right?
I have no faith in rosas but anyone who watches the nba will tell you that towns is on another tier above the rest of his teammates and its betond stupidity to not play tru KAT. Rosas cant be that dumb, can he?
A couple things. First he's going to play Towns a lot. But Towns doesn't have the skill set that a Joker does. And second, this is still Rosas show. The system didn't come from Ryan, it was mandated by Gersson. It's going to look more like the Rockets, and less like Denver. The biggest problem is we don't have a PG who can drive and kick like Harden. DLO should be a 2 in this system. Trying to have him run the offense defeats the basic tenets of the system. I'll give the new team a chance, but to me it looks like a mess and a complete failure waiting to happen.
Re: What does success for a new head coach look like?
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:15 am
by Wolvesfan21
Whenever DLO comes back and this team is healthy then we don't have Rubio losing every game for us I expect this team to play .500 ball if not better.
Heck if Rubio wasn't the worst PG in the league we'd be almost .500 now.
Re: What does success for a new head coach look like?
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:18 am
by Wolvesfan21
worldK wrote:Making Towns THE focal point on offense is a success for me. No one gets to shoot more than KAT unless they are unconciuosly hot. That alone would improve our wins and losses.
Your only problem is that teams can and will continue to double KAT down low at least. KAT's job is to pass to the open player at that point and hope that player knocks it down. You can't just force shots to one player just like the Randy Ratio failed.