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Is Rubio Elite?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:20 am
by bleedspeed
http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nba-ranking-the-5-most-elite-ball-handlers-in-the-league.html/?ref=YF&yptr=yahoo

How did he not make this list? Anyone else think he is a top 5 ball handler?

Re: Is Rubio Elite?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:53 am
by TeamRicky [enjin:6648771]
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bleedspeed177 wrote:http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nba-ranking-the-5-most-elite-ball-handlers-in-the-league.html/?ref=YF&yptr=yahoo

How did he not make this list? Anyone else think he is a top 5 ball handler?


Are you kidding? Consider the source: Cheatsheet. That sounds like just a random list by some random person. And how does one measure ball handling anyway? Is it fewer turnovers to assists? I think some other random person creating a random list of ball handlers might include Ricky. Such a subjective exercise.

Re: Is Rubio Elite?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:56 am
by Coolbreeze44
He has a top 5 handle in my book. But this is just one guy's opinion.

Re: Is Rubio Elite?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:59 am
by bleedspeed
I think once you consder his IQ/Vision/Handle he is surely top 5. Some of the people on that list surprised me for sure.

Re: Is Rubio Elite?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:06 am
by AbeVigodaLive
The term "ballhandler" means different things to different people.

For what it's worth, I've heard broadcasters use Crawford, Irving and Curry before as examples of some of the league's best ballhandlers/dribblers. Paul makes sense. And so does Harden. He's extremely creative and a gifted passer when he wants to be. He might average 10 apg this season.

That being said, Rubio might not be able to use his dribble to create for himself like those guys... but he can use it somewhat to create for others. And isn't passing part of handling the ball? Maybe the author used ball handling = dribbling...?

Re: Is Rubio Elite?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:52 am
by Coolbreeze44
AbeVigodaLive wrote:The term "ballhandler" means different things to different people.

For what it's worth, I've heard broadcasters use Crawford, Irving and Curry before as examples of some of the league's best ballhandlers/dribblers. Paul makes sense. And so does Harden. He's extremely creative and a gifted passer when he wants to be. He might average 10 apg this season.

That being said, Rubio might not be able to use his dribble to create for himself like those guys... but he can use it somewhat to create for others. And isn't passing part of handling the ball? Maybe the author used ball handling = dribbling...?

To some the term could mean Greg Louganis or Neal Page from "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles"

Re: Is Rubio Elite?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:03 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
CoolBreeze44 wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:The term "ballhandler" means different things to different people.

For what it's worth, I've heard broadcasters use Crawford, Irving and Curry before as examples of some of the league's best ballhandlers/dribblers. Paul makes sense. And so does Harden. He's extremely creative and a gifted passer when he wants to be. He might average 10 apg this season.

That being said, Rubio might not be able to use his dribble to create for himself like those guys... but he can use it somewhat to create for others. And isn't passing part of handling the ball? Maybe the author used ball handling = dribbling...?

To some the term could mean Greg Louganis or Neal Page from "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles"



I almost went a similar route... but that would have made two times in the past week.

Re: Is Rubio Elite?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:06 pm
by Brooklyn_Wolves [enjin:14608167]
Rubio commits few turnovers while handling the ball (aka dribble off the foot) compared to other guards in the league. Only CP3 (not a surprise) and Conley (the leader) commit less.

Ricky is more substance over flash with his dribble game.

Re: Is Rubio Elite?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:26 pm
by Monster
I read most of Isaiah Thomas's article and I didn't really have a problem with any of his picks/takes. If you wanted a make a list of 5 guys you have plenty of guys you could pick from. Heck Andre Miller could easily make the list. The guy looks old is old and makes dudes look bad. It seemed he highlighted a variety of different players so I thought that made things a bit interesting. I did notice he left out Towns though who beat him in the skills challenge. Lol

Re: Is Rubio Elite?

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:26 pm
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
Neal Page does figit with his nuts a lot. Planes and Trains thread??