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Top 30 PF's

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:19 pm
by bleedspeed
http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/14099284/new-orleans-pelicans-anthony-davis-losangeles-clippers-blake-griffin-top-power-forward-rankings-nba

21. Amir Johnson, Boston Celtics
22. Markieff Morris, Phoenix Suns
23. Marvin Williams, Charlotte Hornets
24. Jabari Parker, Milwaukee Bucks
25. Julius Randle, Los Angeles Lakers
26. Thaddeus Young, Brooklyn Nets
27. Kris Humphries, Washington Wizards
28. Meyers Leonard, Portland Trail Blazers
29. Luis Scola, Toronto Raptors
30. Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Timberwolves

It's unfortunate to have to put Garnett at the bottom of anything. He's only getting 15 minutes per game, but he is the starter at 4 for Minnesota and you can envision this arrangement lasting all season. He contributes nothing on offense at this point. Still, his defensive effort and leadership are there and those qualities should make an impact on his young teammates that lasts well beyond this season.

Re: Top 30 PF's

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:28 pm
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
bleedspeed177 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/14099284/new-orleans-pelicans-anthony-davis-losangeles-clippers-blake-griffin-top-power-forward-rankings-nba

21. Amir Johnson, Boston Celtics
22. Markieff Morris, Phoenix Suns
23. Marvin Williams, Charlotte Hornets
24. Jabari Parker, Milwaukee Bucks
25. Julius Randle, Los Angeles Lakers
26. Thaddeus Young, Brooklyn Nets
27. Kris Humphries, Washington Wizards
28. Meyers Leonard, Portland Trail Blazers
29. Luis Scola, Toronto Raptors
30. Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Timberwolves

It's unfortunate to have to put Garnett at the bottom of anything. He's only getting 15 minutes per game, but he is the starter at 4 for Minnesota and you can envision this arrangement lasting all season. He contributes nothing on offense at this point. Still, his defensive effort and leadership are there and those qualities should make an impact on his young teammates that lasts well beyond this season.


I didn't read the article, but I'm fairly certain ESPN is using raw scoring and rebounding data to come up with their rankings, rather than making an effort to really evaluate players based on how they are impacting the game. As I said before, if 2/5 of our starting lineup are really the worst in the league at their positions and our starters are outscoring the opposition so significantly, we better start reading about Ricky, KAT and Wig in the MVP discussion. All three have to be really good for the starters to be so good with two stiffs on the court!

Re: Top 30 PF's

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:11 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
longstrangetrip wrote:
bleedspeed177 wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/14099284/new-orleans-pelicans-anthony-davis-losangeles-clippers-blake-griffin-top-power-forward-rankings-nba

21. Amir Johnson, Boston Celtics
22. Markieff Morris, Phoenix Suns
23. Marvin Williams, Charlotte Hornets
24. Jabari Parker, Milwaukee Bucks
25. Julius Randle, Los Angeles Lakers
26. Thaddeus Young, Brooklyn Nets
27. Kris Humphries, Washington Wizards
28. Meyers Leonard, Portland Trail Blazers
29. Luis Scola, Toronto Raptors
30. Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Timberwolves

It's unfortunate to have to put Garnett at the bottom of anything. He's only getting 15 minutes per game, but he is the starter at 4 for Minnesota and you can envision this arrangement lasting all season. He contributes nothing on offense at this point. Still, his defensive effort and leadership are there and those qualities should make an impact on his young teammates that lasts well beyond this season.


I didn't read the article, but I'm fairly certain ESPN is using raw scoring and rebounding data to come up with their rankings, rather than making an effort to really evaluate players based on how they are impacting the game. As I said before, if 2/5 of our starting lineup are really the worst in the league at their positions and our starters are outscoring the opposition so significantly, we better start reading about Ricky, KAT and Wig in the MVP discussion. All three have to be really good for the starters to be so good with two stiffs on the court!


Yeah and this gets into that fuzzy area of legit starter versus token starter. The guy that should really be evaluated against this list is Bjelica.

Re: Top 30 PF's

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:06 pm
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
Espn rankings are stupid