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For 3 unprotected 1st and 2 pick swaps. Per Woj.

That's only part of the package. There is probably a young player involved as well, I would think.

Edit:

Full trade: Utah is trading Donovan Mitchell to Cleveland for Lauri Markkanen, Ochair Agbaji, Collin Sexton, three unprotected first-round picks and two pick swaps, sources tell ESPN.

That leaves Utah with 8 future first rounders not including their own ? I'm just waiting for Lebron to force his way outta LA and back to Cleveland now. Lol

All I can think of is missing on 8 first round draft choices!

I like the trade for both teams. Good value on both sides. I can see how they came to a deal given needs, assets, and players involved.

Ironically, I think Minnesota and Cleveland are built similarly with both teams relying on size in the frontcourt and a potent backcourt. Two mid-market teams zigging while everyone else zags. Love to see it.

That is a small backcourt. Like us Cleveland has some great size in the front court, but their guards are all offense. Okoro was Cleveland's Jaden McDaniels in this deal I guess. Either way, like the Wolves Cleveland is going to be a lot of fun to watch.

I like the trade for both sides. Utah got 5 picks and 2 interesting young players.

Cleveland got an borderline all nba guy in the trade and in my opinion become very similar to the wolves.

How much better than Sexton is Mitchell? I'm not asking to troll or anything, but I don't get the sense that the gap is THAT big, though I haven't seen Sexton play all that much. But the stats, size, and from what I can tell, style of play are fairly similar. Mitchell clearly has another possible gear in terms of taking over a game (that duel with Murray still blows me away). But this could turn out to be pretty nice for Utah if Sexton pans out.

Good point on the size, doper. For Cleveland, weren't they kind of souring on having an undersized backcourt with Sexton and Garland, and now they'll basically have a similarly sized guy replacing Sexton, right? I mean Mitchell's thicker than Sexton and Sexton has the injury concerns, but if size was really a concern for Cleveland, this seems like a bit of a head-scratcher. Then again, if you can get an All-Star . . .

SameOldNudityDrew wrote:How much better than Sexton is Mitchell? I'm not asking to troll or anything, but I don't get the sense that the gap is THAT big, though I haven't seen Sexton play all that much. But the stats, size, and from what I can tell, style of play are fairly similar. Mitchell clearly has another possible gear in terms of taking over a game (that duel with Murray still blows me away). But this could turn out to be pretty nice for Utah if Sexton pans out.

Good point on the size, doper. For Cleveland, weren't they kind of souring on having an undersized backcourt with Sexton and Garland, and now they'll basically have a similarly sized guy replacing Sexton, right? I mean Mitchell's thicker than Sexton and Sexton has the injury concerns, but if size was really a concern for Cleveland, this seems like a bit of a head-scratcher. Then again, if you can get an All-Star . . .

I like Sexton for the 4 years 72 million he signed for.

Honestly I think the Jazz did pretty well in this trade. I would consider Ochai Agbaji basically a first round pick so they got 4 first round picks plus sexton plus Markkenen plus the pick swaps. It will be interesting to see who actually ends up playing for Utah but they might not be underlying horrible night in night out. They will lose plenty of games but they will have some talent. Sexton is probably kinda thrilled to be there. In addition even some of the guys they keep might be trade assets going forward. This whole thing may not work out but if I was a Utah Fan I would be feeling about as good as I could trading away 2 players like Mitchell and Gobert.

There are some people that said this was a no-brainer for the Cavs. I'm not sure about that. Mitchell is more is Qatar scorer than anyone they had before but idk if this was a the right move for them.

Meanwhile the Knicks I guess were not willing to give up TOO much for Mitchell. I think that might be a good thing to see if you are a Knicks fan.

One thing to note is that the Utah Jazz traded their two franchise pillars -- a 25-year old three-time All-Star in Donovan Mitchell and a 30-year old four-time All-NBA, three-time Defensive Player of the Year, and three-time All-Star in Rudy Gobert -- and received zero "blue chip" prospects or rather young players with certain star potential.

They did receive some intriguing young talent in Ochai Agbaji, Walker Kessler, and Jarred Vanderbilt, no doubt, but they're more unproven with tempered expectations than some of the other notable young pieces that have been moved in recent blockbuster deals, such as Brandon Ingram (Anthony Davis), Lonzo Ball (Davis), Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Paul George), Andrew Wiggins (Kevin Love), etc.

I find it interesting that when it's all said and done the Jazz might come away from both trades without a bonafide star prospect and zero lottery picks from Cleveland or Minnesota. Consider that Utah traded their proven stars to both teams who already had young cores and are early in their window to compete/contend. It's at least conceivable that they just dealt Mitchell and Gobert for seven picks in the 20's and some young role players.