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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:13 pm
by Coolbreeze44
This is Andrew Wiggins shooting percentage this year. He's averaging career highs in rebounds and assists, and his 3 point percentage is above his career average. I think we all agree he has been awful for the most part this season. There is evidence of this in just about every thread. I have two questions. Does anyone have an objective opinion of why his overall shooting is so poor this season? And two, if he was shooting 45%, how big of a difference would that make in your eyes?

Re: .397

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:07 am
by ItsJustSoSab
For the second question. No. I've stated before that with his massive contract he needs to be a perennial All-Star. I don't care if he strings together a few great games, or has career highs in different categories if it isn't up to par with his contract. Does shooting 45% make him a perennial All Star? With Wiggins for some reason I doubt it.

Re: .397

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:09 am
by ItsJustSoSab
For the first question: dunking the damn ball might freaking help. I've given up hope on that though as well

Re: .397

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:04 am
by thedoper
CoolBreeze44 wrote:This is Andrew Wiggins shooting percentage this year. He's averaging career highs in rebounds and assists, and his 3 point percentage is above his career average. I think we all agree he has been awful for the most part this season. There is evidence of this in just about every thread. I have two questions. Does anyone have an objective opinion of why his overall shooting is so poor this season? And two, if he was shooting 45%, how big of a difference would that make in your eyes?


He makes tweaks to his form and then throws it in the garbage when the pressure is on. More pressure,
worse delivery. It's the yips and it's sad. We all want them to go in but they look like garbage most of the time.

Re: .397

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:37 am
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
For me, it would definitely depend on how that improvement in shooting percentage came about. To clarify, I would not feel any better about Wiggins if he was shooting 45% from the field because he was knocking down contested mid-range jumpers. That will never be the recipe of sustained success for him. If he was consistently attacking the rim -- creating contact and getting to the line as well -- and continuing to let it fly from three-point range, AND still maintained that 45% shooting from the field (meaning his 2P% was way higher than it is now) then yeah, I'd definitely feel a bit more favorable towards him.

Re: .397

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:14 am
by AbeVigodaLive
Wiggins is actually shooting .395.

By comparison, Ricky Rubio is shooting .412.

Re: .397

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:28 am
by Duke13
thedoper wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:This is Andrew Wiggins shooting percentage this year. He's averaging career highs in rebounds and assists, and his 3 point percentage is above his career average. I think we all agree he has been awful for the most part this season. There is evidence of this in just about every thread. I have two questions. Does anyone have an objective opinion of why his overall shooting is so poor this season? And two, if he was shooting 45%, how big of a difference would that make in your eyes?


He makes tweaks to his form and then throws it in the garbage when the pressure is on. More pressure,
worse delivery. It's the yips and it's sad. We all want them to go in but they look like garbage most of the time.


I agree with this. His form changes, I've noticed a difference with the form of his catch and shoot 3 the last 10 games or so. But the rotation and release is different on every shot he takes. Has been for years, and the finishing throw contact is just sad to watch. I think his terrible hands, lack of focus and concentration could be part of it, he's physically so weak it's ridiculous.

He's a great athlete in the sense that AP was a great athlete, but the skill level of each was very much lacking. When the MLB all star game was here, was as at the celebrity softball game, AP played in it, he was by far worst player on the field. I felt bad for him. I see Wiggins as the same way. Awhile back they were talking about the Wolves as a team going to TopGolf, and it was mentioned Wiggy was the worse, couldn't swing a club. I don't see him skilled or athletic off a basketball court and running, which he barely does, sorry had to throw that in there.

Re: .397

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:32 am
by Duke13
Cool, I do appreciate you starting a tread with objective opinions about Wiggins play.


But the argument of his assist and rebound stats being better this year, so people they people (fans) who have been complaining about that should just shout up now is crazy to me. I agree with Cam's post also.

Re: .397

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:34 am
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
It's time to give him up for a poo-poo platter. Maybe we'll get a shiny turd back.

Re: .397

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:57 am
by AbeVigodaLive
Camden wrote:For me, it would definitely depend on how that improvement in shooting percentage came about. To clarify, I would not feel any better about Wiggins if he was shooting 45% from the field because he was knocking down contested mid-range jumpers. That will never be the recipe of sustained success for him. If he was consistently attacking the rim -- creating contact and getting to the line as well -- and continuing to let it fly from three-point range, AND still maintained that 45% shooting from the field (meaning his 2P% was way higher than it is now) then yeah, I'd definitely feel a bit more favorable towards him.



There were a few All Stars who shoot 45% or less...

Harden
Lillard
Lowry
Middleton
Paul George
Westbrook
Russell

Now think about each of those guys and either (1) how many three pointers they take (Harden is 13+ and Walker/George are 9+ per game) and/or (2) what else they bring to the table, such as Lowry or Westbrook.

Basically, what I'm saying is that Wiggins isn't remotely close to as efficient as almost any of these guys... and he's even further away from them in what other things he brings to the table.

The guy sucks balls now. And he'd suck balls less... but still be underwhelming... if he shot 45% from the field (with the same types of shots he's taking now).