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Interesting graph showing how drastically we've improved this offseason
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:21 pm
by BloopOracle
https://i.redd.it/eab99ixfrs7z.jpg
Re: Interesting graph showing how drastically we've improved this offseason
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:34 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
The Paul George trade seems to be a resounding success/failure for the teams involved.
Apparently, Indiana will score only about 33 points a game next season...
Re: Interesting graph showing how drastically we've improved this offseason
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:47 pm
by SameOldNudityDrew
AbeVigodaLive wrote:The Paul George trade seems to be a resounding success/failure for the teams involved.
Apparently, Indiana will score only about 33 points a game next season...
Now let's get CJ Miles and turn the Pacers into a G League team!
The OKC move was interesting. A huge gamble for OKC, but one that could pay off huge as well. If George leaves and they also fail to convince Westbrook to sign an extension, they're basically starting off at square one (although that Oladipo extension was looking like an overpay last year). But if both agree to extend, that team could be a good playoff team in the West, and that's saying something. The Pacers, meanwhile, are screwed.
Re: Interesting graph showing how drastically we've improved this offseason
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:57 pm
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
Not sure what they are using to determine points added and points subtracted. We are clearly a better defensive team. While Teague is a downgrade from Rubio, it pails in comparison to the upgrade by Butler and Taj. I put Rubio in that second tier of defensive PGs, after Beverley, Paul, and Smart (and probably Dunn some day). Teague is probably a tier below Rubio so it isn't a huge difference.
Meanwhile, Taj + Butler is a massive upgrade defensively, mostly because of Butler. While he and Wiggins are not the perfect match offensively (ideally, one of the two would be a sharp shooter), Butler is absolutely the kind of defensive wing we needed so, so badly next to Wiggins.
Offensively I'm not sure yet. Just because we added another 20+ PPG scorer and a more offensive minded PG doesn't mean 1+1 = 2. There is still only one ball. The real key is do the additions of Teague and Butler make our offense more efficient? In theory, we should be able to better exploit mis-matches and target weak defenders, getting the defense to collapse and therefore get more open shots. But we'll see how things work in reality.
Re: Interesting graph showing how drastically we've improved this offseason
Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:16 pm
by Lipoli390
Q12543 wrote:Not sure what they are using to determine points added and points subtracted. We are clearly a better defensive team. While Teague is a downgrade from Rubio, it pails in comparison to the upgrade by Butler and Taj. I put Rubio in that second tier of defensive PGs, after Beverley, Paul, and Smart (and probably Dunn some day). Teague is probably a tier below Rubio so it isn't a huge difference.
Meanwhile, Taj + Butler is a massive upgrade defensively, mostly because of Butler. While he and Wiggins are not the perfect match offensively (ideally, one of the two would be a sharp shooter), Butler is absolutely the kind of defensive wing we needed so, so badly next to Wiggins.
Offensively I'm not sure yet. Just because we added another 20+ PPG scorer and a more offensive minded PG doesn't mean 1+1 = 2. There is still only one ball. The real key is do the additions of Teague and Butler make our offense more efficient? In theory, we should be able to better exploit mis-matches and target weak defenders, getting the defense to collapse and therefore get more open shots. But we'll see how things work in reality.
I think your analysis is sound, Q. The graph is encouraging, but it seems more convincing on the defensive side of the equation. Like you, I'm not sure where the changes take us offensively. And I don't think the graph reflects our terrible lack of depth and 3-point shooting.