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Lets Trade Down
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:10 am
by Papalrep
The three guys most likely to be there for us, Murray, Hield, Dunn are all flawed
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Murray would take minutes from Zach, is he any better? Dunn is a mediocre shooter, good defender. That's Ricky, except Ricky doesn't turn it over like Dunn. Of those three, I'd prefer Hield just as a shooter off the bench.
If Hield goes high and Bender drops, take a flyer. Otherwise, who would be better to trade with, Boston or Denver? Could we realistically get Crowder from Boston, and the 16 and 23, to give them 2 picks in the top 5?
A player from Denver, plus the 15 and 19, to get them 5 and 7?
We'd add the player, draft Bentil and get a 3 and D guy like Taureen Prince, and may be better off.
Re: Lets Trade Down
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:14 am
by AbeVigodaLive
I don't see how adding more super young players and project guys will help this team right now. The Wolves aren't at the stage of loading the roster with a bunch of young guys and hoping they develop.
The core is there. It needs to be complemented with proven players... or at least guys ready to contribute.
Re: Lets Trade Down
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:21 am
by Q12543 [enjin:6621299]
AbeVigodaLive wrote:I don't see how adding more super young players and project guys will help this team right now. The Wolves aren't at the stage of loading the roster with a bunch of young guys and hoping they develop.
The core is there. It needs to be complemented with proven players... or at least guys ready to contribute.
A trade down strategy could include an established role player + a mid-level 1st. I'd be open to that because it's still just one rookie addition.
If Thibs and Layden's strategy is to go all-in on winning now and act aggressively in free agency, I'd be fine with a project pick like Bender or young guy like Murray, so long as we aren't totally dependent on them as a major rotation player.
Re: Lets Trade Down
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:51 am
by bleedspeed
If we think we value about 10 players the same at 5 then I would say trade down for more shots at players. If we have someone on the board that we rank higher we take them.
Re: Lets Trade Down
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:21 am
by AbeVigodaLive
Q12543 wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:I don't see how adding more super young players and project guys will help this team right now. The Wolves aren't at the stage of loading the roster with a bunch of young guys and hoping they develop.
The core is there. It needs to be complemented with proven players... or at least guys ready to contribute.
A trade down strategy could include an established role player + a mid-level 1st. I'd be open to that because it's still just one rookie addition.
If Thibs and Layden's strategy is to go all-in on winning now and act aggressively in free agency, I'd be fine with a project pick like Bender or young guy like Murray, so long as we aren't totally dependent on them as a major rotation player.
I'm ok with a player + pick type of situation... I'd even be ok with a pick NEXT year + a player now.
I'd be very happy with a good player now for the #5 pick...
Re: Lets Trade Down
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:31 am
by Duke13
People act like our window is closing!! Young talent is the most valuable commodity in the NBA.
To say Dunn's mediocre shooting is the same as Rubio's is borderline insane. Sorry but it is. I've been a supporter of drafting Dunn but I'd be enthused about Murray, Hield or D. Davis to had to our core. Can never never have enough young talent. This window is big gentleman. If we don't win 55 games next year it doesn't mean the tragectory of this team isn't high. I need to stop reading this board.
Re: Lets Trade Down
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:40 am
by AbeVigodaLive
Duke13 wrote:People act like our window is closing!! Young talent is the most valuable commodity in the NBA.
To say Dunn's mediocre shooting is the same as Rubio's is borderline insane. Sorry but it is. I've been a supporter of drafting Dunn but I'd be enthused about Murray, Hield or D. Davis to had to our core. Can never never have enough young talent. This window is big gentleman. If we don't win 55 games next year it doesn't mean the tragectory of this team isn't high. I need to stop reading this board.
Did anybody claim anything different?
Re: Lets Trade Down
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:45 am
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
After watching Klay and Steph rain down threes in that series, I'm even more convinced Buddy should be the pick. We'd need to add a defensive specialist to add to that second unit via free agency.
Re: Lets Trade Down
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:47 am
by Porckchop
Trade 76ers our pick for Nerlens and other pieces or pics?
I'd still still with getting Dunn or Heild personally.
Re: Lets Trade Down
Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 10:11 am
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
I'm with you on this one, papal. I agree with the opinion of the posters who prefer taking BPA at 5, that two picks later in the first round may not help us that much right away. But I'm hoping Thibs takes a longer view. The current core we have plus one key free agent addition (Deng?) puts us in the playoffs next year even without getting anything from our draft picks. But hopefully guys like Valentine, Bentil, Maker, etc. would develop and provide solid depth 4-5 years from now when we are challenging for a championship.
Hield shoots well enough that I would not at all be disappointed with taking him, but the depth of this draft makes me think a trade-down philosophy might make more sense long-term.