Minnesota Sports Forum

MIN gets: Eric Gordon, Aminu, Austin Rivers
NO gets: Kevin Martin, Brewer, LRMAM, JJ

Gordon is still getting his legs back, but he can score like Martin and he is a more physical player and better ball handler which I think fits better on this team. Aminu is essentially a younger LRMAM, but he is better at scoring at the rim. He's an expiring that I think we could retain on the cheap to be a cheap role player which is what we need. Austin is getting better and while not close to being an average player yet, he has potential to be a scoring guard off the bench with time. The hope is that he learns to run an offense in the process. We clear a lot of dead weight even though there aren't much in terms of salary savings because of Gordon's deal. It's a home run deal and you have to hope Gordon keeps getting better, but at the age of 25, I find it hard to believe his best basketball is behind him just because of the injuries. Given time, I expect him to get back to his similar form in LA which is what we could use next to Love more than a spot up shooter with not a lot of ability to get to the rim anymore in Martin. I'll take the hit in 3pt % if I get a guy back who can create his own shot.

They get a bunch of role players which is what they need. They have Holiday/Davis/Anderson and need some wing and guard help to go with them. JJ is an upgrade to Austin. Brewer and LRMAM are upgrades to Aminu and Martin is a good option next to Holiday and Tyreke as a shooter. They've been looking to get rid of Gordon for a while now and this would help bolster their team and possibly make them a playoff contender.

Both teams get a needed shakeup to try to make one more run at the post-season this year.

Not bad, Kahn's.

I'd accept that in a heartbeat. Not sure they would, though. They're giving a lot of youth in the deal.

Same here - let's do this. But, why would they do it?

Great. So you've gone from a deal the Wolves never do (Pek for Gordon) to a deal that NO never does (A Pupu platter and no picks for Gordon). All so you don't feel foolish for writing "Eric plus Kahns equals Love" all over your notebook.

Do you even pay attention to basketball outside of MN? You say NO doesn't need the role players they are desperately missing around their top 4 guys of AD, Holiday, Anderson and Tyreke. The Timberwolves have too many role players and not enough top end talent. This deal makes perfect sense for both teams and if you paid any attention to NO at all, you would realize that they have been shopping Gordon since the moment they traded for Holiday and signed Tyreke. They've had problems with Gordon since the day they matched his deal with Phoenix because he doesn't want to be there. How about you start paying attention to these other teams before you criticize the deal?

Also, my deal of Pek for Gordon would have also netted us a very productive Robin Lopez who is getting 10/8/1.4 on a very good Blazers team next to Aldrige and while being half Pek's salary. Gordon isn't worth any picks and NO isn't looking for more picks. They are looking for vets to go next to Davis/Anderson otherwise they wouldn't have traded their first this year and first last year (Noel) for Holiday. Why don't you actually pay attention to the other team before you rip my deal that benefits both teams?

They have 1 SF on the roster and too many guys that need the ball in their hands to be effective. This deal dumps one guy that needs the ball in his hands for a complementary scorer, 2 additional defenders on the wings and a backup PG of which they only have Rivers right now. There's a reason their record is as bad as it is, but why on earth would they try to plug the holes they have with role players like the Blazers did? Oh wait because it took the Blazers to the next level, just like it would take the Hornets to the next level. NO already has their core 4 guys for the long-term. Now they need the pieces to go around those core guys and you would know that if you actually paid attention to basketball outside of MN.

khans2k5 wrote:Do you even pay attention to basketball outside of MN? You say NO doesn't need the role players they are desperately missing around their top 4 guys of AD, Holiday, Anderson and Tyreke. The Timberwolves have too many role players and not enough top end talent. This deal makes perfect sense for both teams and if you paid any attention to NO at all, you would realize that they have been shopping Gordon since the moment they traded for Holiday and signed Tyreke. They've had problems with Gordon since the day they matched his deal with Phoenix because he doesn't want to be there. How about you start paying attention to these other teams before you criticize the deal?

Also, my deal of Pek for Gordon would have also netted us a very productive Robin Lopez who is getting 10/8/1.4 on a very good Blazers team next to Aldrige and while being half Pek's salary. Gordon isn't worth any picks and NO isn't looking for more picks. They are looking for vets to go next to Davis/Anderson otherwise they wouldn't have traded their first this year and first last year (Noel) for Holiday. Why don't you actually pay attention to the other team before you rip my deal that benefits both teams?

They have 1 SF on the roster and too many guys that need the ball in their hands to be effective. This deal dumps one guy that needs the ball in his hands for a complementary scorer, 2 additional defenders on the wings and a backup PG of which they only have Rivers right now. There's a reason their record is as bad as it is, but why on earth would they try to plug the holes they have with role players like the Blazers did? Oh wait because it took the Blazers to the next level, just like it would take the Hornets to the next level. NO already has their core 4 guys for the long-term. Now they need the pieces to go around those core guys and you would know that if you actually paid attention to basketball outside of MN.

Here's the problem we're running into (and in all fairness, not just you): I DON'T HAVE TIME TO WATCH ENOUGH OF EACH TEAM TO MAKE THESE JUDGEMENTS! And, quite frankly, neither do you. You either have a job (or, dare I say, have classes and homework) and just can't make these judgements. And if Gordon was worth his salary, NO could do better.

And I went back and read the BSPN thread: You had Pek for Gordon straight up. Time to stop running from that one and own up.

And I didn't say NO doesn't need role players (because, quite frankly, I HAVE NO EARTHLY CLUE WHAT THEY NEED), but if they did, and Gordon was "all that", couldn't they do better than the "role players" (So Gordon's a star and Martin is a role player? Really?) a .500 team is trying to trade? That's why I call them a pupu platter, no disrespect to Kevin Martin intended.

I get it. You're stuck in 2010. You probably still talk about "Lost". But Eric Gordon at $15m per for two more years is over.