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Gary Neal for Dante Cunningham -- yes or no?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:24 am
by kms789 [enjin:6694798]
The Bucks are trying to trade a disgruntled Neal and his contract. Cunningham would be the likely target because he's an expiring and he makes less than Neal this season. I'm sure the Bucks would say yes, but what about the Wolves?
By career percentage, Neal would be the Wolves' best 3pt shooter. Dante provides some value and grit, but so does Mbah a Moute, who the Wolves are stuck with for at least another year.
Re: Gary Neal for Dante Cunningham -- yes or no?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:34 am
by bleedspeed
Would they want Moute back?
Re: Gary Neal for Dante Cunningham -- yes or no?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:38 am
by kms789 [enjin:6694798]
I'm not in their shoes, but it wouldn't make sense for them to make a deal without cutting salary or getting assets. They're the worst team in the league. Plus, Mbah a Moute is about $3mil/season overpaid.
Re: Gary Neal for Dante Cunningham -- yes or no?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:15 am
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
I think I would be inclined to say yes, kms, provided Adelman was comfortable giving Dante's minutes to LMaM. Otherwise we have no one backing up love at PF. ESPN lists Luc as a PF and he is actually bigger than Dante, but he has played SF most of his career.
His 40% 3-point shooting would be very attractive coming off the bench. And he has to be frustrated being the 4th shooting guard on the worst team in the NBA.
Re: Gary Neal for Dante Cunningham -- yes or no?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:28 am
by AbeVigodaLive
longstrangetrip wrote:I think I would be inclined to say yes, kms, provided Adelman was comfortable giving Dante's minutes to LMaM. Otherwise we have no one backing up love at PF. ESPN lists Luc as a PF and he is actually bigger than Dante, but he has played SF most of his career.
His 40% 3-point shooting would be very attractive coming off the bench. And he has to be frustrated being the 4th shooting guard on the worst team in the NBA.
I like the idea of Neal, even if he's a bit redundant with Barea. But, what happens offensively with Moute in place of Cunningham. We can rail on Cunningham's modest efficiency with that 15 - 18 foot shot that is the biggest component of his game.
But what happens if he's not there to take that shot... at the very least what it does for spacing?
Re: Gary Neal for Dante Cunningham -- yes or no?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:35 am
by BizarroJerry [enjin:6592520]
Neal was clutch in the playoffs last year. Absolutely I trade. What happened to him in the Mil? He's the 4th SG now?
Re: Gary Neal for Dante Cunningham -- yes or no?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:36 am
by longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]
AbeVigodaLive wrote:longstrangetrip wrote:I think I would be inclined to say yes, kms, provided Adelman was comfortable giving Dante's minutes to LMaM. Otherwise we have no one backing up love at PF. ESPN lists Luc as a PF and he is actually bigger than Dante, but he has played SF most of his career.
His 40% 3-point shooting would be very attractive coming off the bench. And he has to be frustrated being the 4th shooting guard on the worst team in the NBA.
I like the idea of Neal, even if he's a bit redundant with Barea. But, what happens offensively with Moute in place of Cunningham. We can rail on Cunningham's modest efficiency with that 15 - 18 foot shot that is the biggest component of his game.
But what happens if he's not there to take that shot... at the very least what it does for spacing?
Good point, Abe. Dante's game is limited in many ways, but when his mid-ranger is working, it really helps the second unit. JJ is generally a poor distributor, but he has great chemistry with Dante, and is able to find him for that shot regularly.
I'm on the fence on this potential deal. We lose something in Dante, but Neal could really provide a 3-point spark.
Re: Gary Neal for Dante Cunningham -- yes or no?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:37 am
by kms789 [enjin:6694798]
AbeVigodaLive wrote:longstrangetrip wrote:
I like the idea of Neal, even if he's a bit redundant with Barea. But, what happens offensively with Moute in place of Cunningham. We can rail on Cunningham's modest efficiency with that 15 - 18 foot shot that is the biggest component of his game.
But what happens if he's not there to take that shot... at the very least what it does for spacing?
We really need to stop calling Cunningham's mid-range shot a good one. He hits the mid-range at 39% this year, meaning it yields 78points/100 shots. In comparison, a 3-point shooter would have to hit just 26% to yield as many points per shot as Cunningham. It's a bad shot, and that's why he's always open. It's on the other team's scouting report to let him take it.
Re: Gary Neal for Dante Cunningham -- yes or no?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:41 am
by AbeVigodaLive
kms789 wrote:AbeVigodaLive wrote:longstrangetrip wrote:
I like the idea of Neal, even if he's a bit redundant with Barea. But, what happens offensively with Moute in place of Cunningham. We can rail on Cunningham's modest efficiency with that 15 - 18 foot shot that is the biggest component of his game.
But what happens if he's not there to take that shot... at the very least what it does for spacing?
We really need to stop calling Cunningham's mid-range shot a good one. He hits the mid-range at 39% this year, meaning it yields 78points/100 shots. In comparison, a 3-point shooter would have to hit just 26% to yield as many points per shot as Cunningham. It's a bad shot, and that's why he's always open. It's on the other team's scouting report to let him take it.
Who said it was a "good one?"
Re: Gary Neal for Dante Cunningham -- yes or no?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:46 am
by kms789 [enjin:6694798]
AbeVigodaLive wrote:
Who said it was a "good one?"
I'm just saying it's not a reason to hang on to Cunningham. His grit and defensive versatility? Of course. But that shot...yuck. Plus, it doesn't draw fouls, his defender can leave him and position for the rebound. It's just not good offense. Maybe with another shooter/shot creator like Neal, we would have something else to rely on.