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Mchale vs Kahn

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:16 pm
by bleedspeed
If McHale would have stayed on as GM. Would be better or worse now?

Re: Mchale vs Kahn

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:47 pm
by JasonIsDaMan [enjin:7981157]
I voted better. But it would be in a convoluted fashion.

I think Mchale is one of the better evaluators of PF/post talent of the last 20 years. His only major whiff was Olawakandi, and I'm sure that had as much to do with Flop and his partner Duff as it did Mchale. Paul Grant was a late round pick, so I begrudgingly give him a pass.

If Mchale simply took the best post available wherever MIN had a draft pick, MIN would have had the best one thru six posts in the league, and tradeable assets for established wings and points.

Not perfect. But Kahn never really had an area of expertise, and Flop is going to draft and sign whomever Duff tells him to.

Re: Mchale vs Kahn

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:51 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
I'll say McHale. Chances are he would have made better use of the high draft picks we had and that's more than enough to make me side with him. He drafted Love and Pek, our two best players. Hard to argue against that right now, especially when you look at the picks Kahn pissed away.

Re: Mchale vs Kahn

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:29 pm
by bleedspeed
I said better.

2009 - I figured he wouldn't have traded with the Wizard and would have drafted Stephen Curry at 6th. (no clue on 18th and 28th picks) I am guessing he would have went Ty Lawson because he liked college winners.

After that history would have been we written.

Starters
Ty Lawson
Randy Foye
Mike Miller
Kevin Love
Al Jefferson

Bench
Stephen Curry
Craig Smith
Ryan Gomes
Mark Madsen

Re: Mchale vs Kahn

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:33 pm
by Camden [enjin:6601484]
bleedspeed177 wrote:I said better.

2009 - I figured he wouldn't have traded with the Wizard and would have drafted Stephen Curry at 6th. (no clue on 18th and 28th picks) I am guessing he would have went Ty Lawson because he liked college winners.

After that history would have been we written.

Starters
Ty Lawson
Randy Foye
Mike Miller
Kevin Love
Al Jefferson

Bench
Stephen Curry
Craig Smith
Ryan Gomes
Mark Madsen


If he took Curry at 6, why would he start the guy that he took later in the round? Lawson would be that spark off the bench. Sometimes have a Lawson/Curry backcourt.

Re: Mchale vs Kahn

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:34 pm
by JasonIsDaMan [enjin:7981157]
Bleed: Your "2009" is fairly accurate, but how about he takes Buddinger with #28 and Miller is on the Bench? I can't say with 100% certainty that would happen, because maybe he does Dejuan Blair at #28. The man knows his power forwards.

And I do think he makes that deal with WSH. The #5 pick, in what everyone thought was a very good draft, for two rotation guys? Too good to pass up. My biggest fear is that he uses it on Tyler Hansbrough.

Re: Mchale vs Kahn

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:51 pm
by bleedspeed
Camden wrote:

If he took Curry at 6, why would he start the guy that he took later in the round? Lawson would be that spark off the bench. Sometimes have a Lawson/Curry backcourt.


Man crush on Foye.

Re: Mchale vs Kahn

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:28 pm
by KiwiMatt
IMO McHale wasn't actually that bad of a GM.

We can thank him for Kevin Love and Nikola Pekovic along with making us one of the top teams in Western Conference during the early 2000's. The Joe Smith fiasco really hurt us though!

The only thing Kahn has to show for himself is Ricky Rubio and Rick Adelman. Everything else he did was a complete disaster and poor old Flip got left with clean up job. You can thank Kahn for us not having a 1st round draft pick for next years draft and the reason behind it (trading Wes Johnson to PHX for capspace) is even more ridiculous, because he's the guy who drafted Johnson in the first place. It seemed everything Kahn did he had to undo by using up one of our few assets i.e Amnesty on Darko and trading a future 1st to unload Johnson's contract (to sign AK for a years rental). Not to mention all the blown draft picks which stagnated this franchise for his entire reign.

I take McHale 10 times out 10.

Re: Mchale vs Kahn

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:22 pm
by WildWolf2813
McHale would be worse in that while we wouldn't have been 15-67 bad, we'd be a permanent treadmill squad. His vision of old school smashmouth basketball just doesn't work.

Why are assuming he was gonna go on a nice run with picks when McHale has never done that AND he thought that the Foye /Jefferson team coulda won 44 games? If anything, we'd be seeing what we're seeing now from Flip: lack of interest in developing youth

Re: Mchale vs Kahn

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:26 pm
by JasonIsDaMan [enjin:7981157]
WildWolf2813 wrote:McHale would be worse in that while we wouldn't have been 15-67 bad, we'd be a permanent treadmill squad. His vision of old school smashmouth basketball just doesn't work.

Why are assuming he was gonna go on a nice run with picks when McHale has never done that AND he thought that the Foye /Jefferson team coulda won 44 games? If anything, we'd be seeing what we're seeing now from Flip: lack of interest in developing youth



1. If you think worse, why didn't you vote worse?

2. So he drafted Garnett and Ebi because....he thought they were ready right away?