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Game Report - Wolves v Knicks

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:13 pm
by Lipoli390
Fun game to watch with a great ending.

This was the biggest and loudest Monday evening regular season crowd I’ve been part of in a long time - dating back at least two seasons and maybe not since the KG era. This was the first game I’ve been at this season without JMac’s mom in attendance two rows in front of me. Wally Z was in the house. He autographed a basketball and threw it down into the crowd. The guy who caught it was in my row just four seats to my right.

I don’t think I’ve even see Finch work the sidelines as hard as he did tonight. I’ve attended a lot of games since Finch came here, but I’ve never seen him so intense and vocal communicating with the players during play from beginning to end. He wasn’t constantly barking like Thibs and he wasn’t jumping around like some head coaches. One thing I really like about Finch is his controlled, mature intensity and activity. As I was reflecting tonight on how well the team has been playing so far this season, it occurred to me that the players are essentially reflecting the character of their head coach.

Regarding the specifics of the game tonight, the Wolves poor rebounding and turnovers kept the Knicks in the game the first half. But they improved on those two things the second half. I love the way we came out early in the Third Quarter. That’s when the Wolves took command of the game and they never relinquished it. Our defense was terrific all game and the key in the second half was that we kept scoring. At he same time, the Wolves rebounded and protected the ball better. Rudy seemed sluggish in the first half but he picked up his game in the second as did Edwards.

Once again, KAT was our best player. He was productive and highly efficient on the offensive end and played outstanding defense. I just can’t get over how well KAT has been playing all season so far on the defensive end. He ultimately fouled out so that continues to be an issue for him, but no player is perfect and I think KAT got screwed by the officials tonight. NAW has been terrific all season so far, but he really stepped up even more when Jaden went down. NAW’s defense was terrific as always, but he also took his offense up another notch, hitting 50% of his shots, including 50% of his threes. I think he made the play of the game when he got to that loose ball and made a fantastic pass for a dunk. Conley was his usual steady, veteran self. The value we received in the DLO trade continues can’t be overstated, considering how well Conley NAW have been playing and how important they both are to this team’s success thus far. Kyle Anderson was terrific, except for his free-throw shooting and I liked the minutes we got from Troy Brown Jr with his defense and hustle.

The only guys who didn’t play well for the Wolves tonight were Naz and Shake, but neither one was terrible.

So we remain on top of the Western Conference and undefeated at home. There’s an excitement in the arena I haven’t felt in a long time. Let’s keep it going.

Re: Game Report - Wolves v Knicks

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:19 am
by KG4Ever
<<The only guys who didn’t play well for the Wolves tonight were Naz and Shake>>

I agree that Naz didn't look too good with some bad passes and poor shooting. But Shake, his passing was amazing tonight. Your writeup on Shake is way off the mark and either you were wearing blinders on or just have unfettered animosity towards Shake.

Re: Game Report - Wolves v Knicks

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:48 am
by TAFKASP
It appears Shake is this seasons DLO. The opinions couldn't be more divergent.

Re: Game Report - Wolves v Knicks

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:27 pm
by DNatagal
Expectations from this board are bordering on the ridiculous for bench players.

They are bench players for a reason,
Hence why they aren't starting.

This season has been fun to watch and I haven't felt like the Wolves are going to lose a game since the wake-up call that was the Atlanta game.

The Wolves brain trust has my support and I cannot wait to watch the next game.

Re: Game Report - Wolves v Knicks

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:42 pm
by AbeVigodaLive
I'm not ready to make any sort of realized opinion on Milton (other than that I love his nickname). Time will tell us a lot more. He's still figuring things out on a new team.

But he's been atrocious on offense so far.

He's shooting poorly and his 1.4 assist to 1.1 TO ratio is pretty damn awful for a backup "PG." With McDaniels out for awhile, we'll learn more about the guy soon. He'll probably play better and give some quality bench minutes. But so far, his cumulative stats are way down and have been worse than Nowell's.

Re: Game Report - Wolves v Knicks

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:50 pm
by thedoper
AbeVigodaLive wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:42 pm I'm not ready to make any sort of realized opinion on Milton (other than that I love his nickname). Time will tell us a lot more. He's still figuring things out on a new team.

But he's been atrocious on offense so far.

He's shooting poorly and his 1.4 assist to 1.1 TO ratio is pretty damn awful for a backup "PG." With McDaniels out for awhile, we'll learn more about the guy soon. He'll probably play better and give some quality bench minutes. But so far, his cumulative stats are way down and have been worse than Nowell's.
Yeah I think its clear we are 7 deep right now. I liked NAW in the past 2 games but dont trust him yet. That 8th spot is way up for grabs come playoff time.

Re: Game Report - Wolves v Knicks

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:28 pm
by Lipoli390
AbeVigodaLive wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:42 pm I'm not ready to make any sort of realized opinion on Milton (other than that I love his nickname). Time will tell us a lot more. He's still figuring things out on a new team.

But he's been atrocious on offense so far.

He's shooting poorly and his 1.4 assist to 1.1 TO ratio is pretty damn awful for a backup "PG." With McDaniels out for awhile, we'll learn more about the guy soon. He'll probably play better and give some quality bench minutes. But so far, his cumulative stats are way down and have been worse than Nowell's.
Like you, I’m not ready to render a final opinion on Shake Milton or the decision to sign him. I’ve just noted, as have others, that he hasn’t graded out well in the minutes he’s played so far this season. I’m taking it one game at a time with Shake.

Re: Game Report - Wolves v Knicks

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:34 pm
by Lipoli390
DNatagal wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:27 pm Expectations from this board are bordering on the ridiculous for bench players.

They are bench players for a reason,
Hence why they aren't starting.

This season has been fun to watch and I haven't felt like the Wolves are going to lose a game since the wake-up call that was the Atlanta game.

The Wolves brain trust has my support and I cannot wait to watch the next game.
I don’t think expectations on this Board have been too high for our bench players. Just about all of us have given NAW high marks for filling his role off the bench. Same for Naz even though he had a pretty bad game last night considering what we can reasonably expect from Naz given his role and contract. But I’m not worried about Naz. Shake hasn’t played up to reasonable expectations for bench player as Abe pointed out. I happen to believe the organization expects to much of him by casting him as a backup PG. I don’t think he has the playmaking or ballhandling skills for the PG position on the offensive end or the quickness to guard PGs in today’s NBA. Having said that, I can envision him settling into a key role as a backup wing who can hit shots off the bench. We might need him even more now with Jaden out.

Re: Game Report - Wolves v Knicks

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:59 pm
by kekgeek
Lipoli390 wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:34 pm
DNatagal wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:27 pm Expectations from this board are bordering on the ridiculous for bench players.

They are bench players for a reason,
Hence why they aren't starting.

This season has been fun to watch and I haven't felt like the Wolves are going to lose a game since the wake-up call that was the Atlanta game.

The Wolves brain trust has my support and I cannot wait to watch the next game.
I don’t think expectations on this Board have been too high for our bench players. Just about all of us have given NAW high marks for filling his role off the bench. Same for Naz even though he had a pretty bad game last night considering what we can reasonably expect from Naz given his role and contract. But I’m not worried about Naz. Shake hasn’t played up to reasonable expectations for bench player as Abe pointed out. I happen to believe the organization expects to much of him by casting him as a backup PG. I don’t think he has the playmaking or ballhandling skills for the PG position on the offensive end or the quickness to guard PGs in today’s NBA. Having said that, I can envision him settling into a key role as a backup wing who can hit shots off the bench. We might need him even more now with Jaden out.
I also want to say it’s so much easier to talk about the bad in general. I think we’re all really happy with the start of this season. We just want to talk about the weakness because that is the easiest to digest. Wolves at the moment are doing fine but now they are missing their 4th and 11th best player for multiple weeks. I don’t think anyone trusts our 12-14th best players this year. Wolves have 7 current players I think the majority trust with Shake and Brown borderline trust players. They are one injury away from possibly caving in so I think it’s always smart to see where the wolves could possibly upgrade

Re: Game Report - Wolves v Knicks

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:11 pm
by Lipoli390
kekgeek wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:59 pm
Lipoli390 wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:34 pm
DNatagal wrote: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:27 pm Expectations from this board are bordering on the ridiculous for bench players.

They are bench players for a reason,
Hence why they aren't starting.

This season has been fun to watch and I haven't felt like the Wolves are going to lose a game since the wake-up call that was the Atlanta game.

The Wolves brain trust has my support and I cannot wait to watch the next game.
I don’t think expectations on this Board have been too high for our bench players. Just about all of us have given NAW high marks for filling his role off the bench. Same for Naz even though he had a pretty bad game last night considering what we can reasonably expect from Naz given his role and contract. But I’m not worried about Naz. Shake hasn’t played up to reasonable expectations for bench player as Abe pointed out. I happen to believe the organization expects to much of him by casting him as a backup PG. I don’t think he has the playmaking or ballhandling skills for the PG position on the offensive end or the quickness to guard PGs in today’s NBA. Having said that, I can envision him settling into a key role as a backup wing who can hit shots off the bench. We might need him even more now with Jaden out.
I also want to say it’s so much easier to talk about the bad in general. I think we’re all really happy with the start of this season. We just want to talk about the weakness because that is the easiest to digest. Wolves at the moment are doing fine but now they are missing their 4th and 11th best player for multiple weeks. I don’t think anyone trusts our 12-14th best players this year. Wolves have 7 current players I think the majority trust with Shake and Brown borderline trust players. They are one injury away from possibly caving in so I think it’s always smart to see where the wolves could possibly upgrade
Great post, kek. I agree with all your points.