Twins 2020 Off-season Thread

[bleedspeed]

I mean would you trade him straiht up for Robbie Ray? because I would be on the fence on that one.

I didn't know who he was. Worry about a guy that is coming from National leagues. Brooks likes his pitches.

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/landing.php?player=592662

[Monster]

Jester I do look at the long contracts that way. Those deals if they don't work out can still hurt you even in the short term. It's a gamble and I never said I absolutely wouldn't do it but it certainly worries me. Yes it worked out with the Max S. Deal but how many other ones didn't? Just to be clear I'm not taking pot shots at your plan or your idea of signing Randon for that deal just saying how I feel.

Just know I respect you for putting your plan out there. I probably won't I just don't know the league well enough and with baseball having such an extensive minor league system that makes decision what to do even harder because there are even more options and moves to make than say the NFL or NBA. You MIGHT actually have 3 studs in the minor league system. That's not as likely with the NBA. It's also more likely to be able to find some random pitchers that ca be high end or well above average that basically come out of nowhere. You don't play for those things though...well maybe planning for finding one trash heap reliever in signing a bunch of minor league deal guys is reasonable. Lol

I'm not mad or anything its just in baseball there's no cap so theortically if the Twins wanted they could sign Cole, Strausburg and Rendon. My point was to state if the Twins dont take a shot on a top guy this offseason then it will never happen as long as the Pohlads are in charge. I looked up the 10 biggest contracts from the last 10 years to see if they worked out. The bar I judge on is if they team made a World Series during the contract.

1. Bryce Harper, Phillies: 13 years, $330 million (2019-31) TBD
2. Manny Machado, Padres: 10 years, $300 million (2019-28) TBD
3. Alex Rodriguez, Yankees: 10 years, $275 million (2008-17) YES
4. Alex Rodriguez, Rangers: 10 years, $252 million (2001-10) NO
5 (tie). Albert Pujols, Angels: 10 years, $240 million (2012-21)NO
5 (tie) Robinson Canó, Mariners: 10 years, $240 million (2014-23) NO
7. David Price, Red Sox: 7 years, $217 million (2016-22) YES
8. Prince Fielder, Tigers: 9 years, $214 million (2012-20) YES
9. Max Scherzer, Nationals: 7 years, $210 million (2015-21)YES
10. Zack Greinke, D-backs: 6 years, $206.5 million (2016-21) YES kind of

Just basing on this its a 40/60 Shot of producing going to the World Series during those contracts.

Interesting.

[bleedspeed]

I wonder if some team would just be in love with Sano and willing to deal the farm on him. I am thinking a team like the Dodgers.

[Monster]

I wonder if some team would just be in love with Sano and willing to deal the farm on him. I am thinking a team like the Dodgers.

I'm sort of a Sano believer and I'm not fully sold on the guy because he hasn't done it for a full season and/or stayed healthy. In addition he is an UFA in 2021 so if you trade for him you are only getting him for cheap for a couple years. I think any team calling about him is either trying to get him for a good deal or fair price which if I was the Twins I would hold onto him...unless it was pitching in return kinda like the trade Jester suggested which idk if it's a fair deal for either side or not.

[Jester1534]

I wonder if some team would just be in love with Sano and willing to deal the farm on him. I am thinking a team like the Dodgers.

I'm sort of a Sano believer and I'm not fully sold on the guy because he hasn't done it for a full season and/or stayed healthy. In addition he is an UFA in 2021 so if you trade for him you are only getting him for cheap for a couple years. I think any team calling about him is either trying to get him for a good deal or fair price which if I was the Twins I would hold onto him...unless it was pitching in return kinda like the trade Jester suggested which idk if it's a fair deal for either side or not.

Like you sated above I have no idea who Sano worth would be around the league. There are ton of variables to him and I don't know if a team see him as a difference maker.

[Monster]

I wonder if some team would just be in love with Sano and willing to deal the farm on him. I am thinking a team like the Dodgers.

I'm sort of a Sano believer and I'm not fully sold on the guy because he hasn't done it for a full season and/or stayed healthy. In addition he is an UFA in 2021 so if you trade for him you are only getting him for cheap for a couple years. I think any team calling about him is either trying to get him for a good deal or fair price which if I was the Twins I would hold onto him...unless it was pitching in return kinda like the trade Jester suggested which idk if it's a fair deal for either side or not.

Like you sated above I have no idea who Sano worth would be around the league. There are ton of variables to him and I don't know if a team see him as a difference maker.

I'd guess there are teams that would be plenty pleased to have him on their roster but like we have said at what price. I'd guess the Twins value him so if they move him they would need something worthwhile in return. I'm guessing they want to see what another good offseason where he is healthy and in shape does for him along with another season with him being mentored by Nelson Cruz.

Let's look at It a different way...Sano financially. Let's say this offseason Sano wants to stay with the Twins long term and is willing to take a deal now. what kind not ridiculous lowball kind of deal would make you excited about keeping him here for say 5 more years? I'll try and come up with some numbers of my own but I need to do a bit more homework. The more I think about how much I might be willing to pay Sano the more Nelson Cruz's contract looks like a bargain.

[bleedspeed]

Good take on extending Sano. They guy's history gives you pause, but he was great last year.

[Monster]

Let's say hypothetically you could get either Garrett Cole or Rendon for basically the same contract which guy would you take?

[bleedspeed]

Cole in my book.

[Jester1534]

Cole in a heartbeat but I dont think he's leaving California