Can we win this one? Portland GDT

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I am absolutely disgusted by this loss. A spit in the face for us fans.

Outside of Thybille and Knox III I had no heard of a single player the Trailblazers had playing tonight. They had no interest in winning tonight as they are out of play in territory and would be better off losing to increase their chance of a higher lottery pick.

AND WE STILL LOST.

I didn't watch the game and certain won't watch the replay, but going off the box score we lost this game on turnovers. We literally won every other statistic (outside of steals).

AND WE STILL LOST.

I hope we get rolled in play ins. This team is pathetic.
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Was the line really 19.5?

Holy shit, I looked up the money line was +1200. 12-1 odds.

I don't bet games anymore but if I saw 12-1 I would have had to take the Blazers on that! I thought it would have been more like 7-1. That is crazy.
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WolvesFan21 wrote:Was the line really 19.5?

Holy shit, I looked up the money line was +1200. 12-1 odds.

I don't bet games anymore but if I saw 12-1 I would have had to take the Blazers on that! I thought it would have been more like 7-1. That is crazy.


Ha, I don't bet NBA anymore either, but I was drooling a little when I saw that line (it was 17 1/2 when I saw it). I probably would have shied away from the money line, but the point spread bet sure seemed like a lock!
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FNG wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:Was the line really 19.5?

Holy shit, I looked up the money line was +1200. 12-1 odds.

I don't bet games anymore but if I saw 12-1 I would have had to take the Blazers on that! I thought it would have been more like 7-1. That is crazy.


Ha, I don't bet NBA anymore either, but I was drooling a little when I saw that line (it was 17 1/2 when I saw it). I probably would have shied away from the money line, but the point spread bet sure seemed like a lock!


I know. I would say maybe 25% chance or so to win by 18 or 20. I know they put their G League out there but the Wolves have consistently played down to the lowest competition all year. How many games have they won by 15 never mind 18 or 20?

The problem I got into was wanting to bet every game instead of just sticking to the outliers. I think you can win long term if you are discipline and are very picky on bets where you feel like you are a favorite.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:Two things. You have to fire Finch and you have to trade KAT. Enough is enough.


100% agree, he's a loser, I think his personality has to be draining on a team. The idea of Kat is much better than the reality of his impact on the court. If he were a 3rd or 4th year player I wouldn't trade him but we've seen this for too long.

Trading him obviously depends on the return, I personally think it's addition by subtraction. Sign Naz and deal Kat is the best for roster construction. Where it gets tricky, Conley is going to have to swallow his pride, because it's almost impossible he gets as good of return as he gave up for Rudy, but he still should be able to get a good haul.
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Duke13 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Two things. You have to fire Finch and you have to trade KAT. Enough is enough.


100% agree, he's a loser, I think his personality has to be draining on a team. The idea of Kat is much better than the reality of his impact on the court. If he were a 3rd or 4th year player I wouldn't trade him but we've seen this for too long.

Trading him obviously depends on the return, I personally think it's addition by subtraction. Sign Naz and deal Kat is the best for roster construction. Where it gets tricky, Conley is going to have to swallow his pride, because it's almost impossible he gets as good of return as he gave up for Rudy, but he still should be able to get a good haul.


He's younger then Rudy so that helps. I think getting less picks but a better package of young guys would be ideal. Something like 2 picks and a couple good players with upside.
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The best part of this which big to trade discussion...

... a prominent podcast recently had a "Worst NBA contract" draft... and both big guys were in the top 5.

YEAH TIM CONNELLY!
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Duke13 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Two things. You have to fire Finch and you have to trade KAT. Enough is enough.


100% agree, he's a loser, I think his personality has to be draining on a team. The idea of Kat is much better than the reality of his impact on the court. If he were a 3rd or 4th year player I wouldn't trade him but we've seen this for too long.

Trading him obviously depends on the return, I personally think it's addition by subtraction. Sign Naz and deal Kat is the best for roster construction. Where it gets tricky, Conley is going to have to swallow his pride, because it's almost impossible he gets as good of return as he gave up for Rudy, but he still should be able to get a good haul.


That being said, a Naz /McDaniels PF/C combo averages 8.5 rebounds between the two of them.
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WildWolf2813 wrote:
Duke13 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Two things. You have to fire Finch and you have to trade KAT. Enough is enough.


100% agree, he's a loser, I think his personality has to be draining on a team. The idea of Kat is much better than the reality of his impact on the court. If he were a 3rd or 4th year player I wouldn't trade him but we've seen this for too long.

Trading him obviously depends on the return, I personally think it's addition by subtraction. Sign Naz and deal Kat is the best for roster construction. Where it gets tricky, Conley is going to have to swallow his pride, because it's almost impossible he gets as good of return as he gave up for Rudy, but he still should be able to get a good haul.


That being said, a Naz /McDaniels PF/C combo averages 8.5 rebounds between the two of them.

NAZ doesn't play many minutes, Jaden doesn't play power forward.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:
WildWolf2813 wrote:
Duke13 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Two things. You have to fire Finch and you have to trade KAT. Enough is enough.


100% agree, he's a loser, I think his personality has to be draining on a team. The idea of Kat is much better than the reality of his impact on the court. If he were a 3rd or 4th year player I wouldn't trade him but we've seen this for too long.

Trading him obviously depends on the return, I personally think it's addition by subtraction. Sign Naz and deal Kat is the best for roster construction. Where it gets tricky, Conley is going to have to swallow his pride, because it's almost impossible he gets as good of return as he gave up for Rudy, but he still should be able to get a good haul.


That being said, a Naz /McDaniels PF/C combo averages 8.5 rebounds between the two of them.

NAZ doesn't play many minutes, Jaden doesn't play power forward.


In any sort of Towns trade, I'm gonna assume they're getting some wing player in return.

I also assume if they're gonna move Towns, the first team who shows interest in Gobert will land Gobert, whenever that is.
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