lipoli390 wrote:The Knicks and Jazz have had exploratory conversations surrounding Obi Toppin, Evan Fournier, and draft pick compensation for Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt, league sources told HoopsHype.
Danny Ainge plays chess while others, including Connelly, play checkers.
What do you have against checkers, Lip? I like checkers.
More importantly, when are you going to end your self-imposed Target Center boycott? Rudy keeps looking over his shoulder to see if you've returned...he misses you. Granted you wouldn't have had much fun last night, but the two overtime games earlier in the week were terrific...especially the Golden State win.
Lol. I'm terrible at both chess and checkers. As for my Target Center boycott, it will continue until the Wolves make the playoffs or trade Rudy. :) I loved the win over Golden State. I'll note that Rudy didn't play in that game. Of course, the Wolves have a better winning percentage in games without Rudy than with him. I'm sure it's just coincidence. :)
lipoli390 wrote:The Knicks and Jazz have had exploratory conversations surrounding Obi Toppin, Evan Fournier, and draft pick compensation for Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt, league sources told HoopsHype.
Danny Ainge plays chess while others, including Connelly, play checkers.
What do you have against checkers, Lip? I like checkers.
More importantly, when are you going to end your self-imposed Target Center boycott? Rudy keeps looking over his shoulder to see if you've returned...he misses you. Granted you wouldn't have had much fun last night, but the two overtime games earlier in the week were terrific...especially the Golden State win.
Lol. I'm terrible at both chess and checkers. As for my Target Center boycott, it will continue until the Wolves make the playoffs or trade Rudy. :) My favorite win was the
FNG wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
FNG wrote:
60WinTim wrote:Okay, FNG, I am off the Lowry bandwagon (knee issues) and on your Kyrie bandwagon.
Ha, it's not a comfortable bandwagon to be on, but I have one foot on it nonetheless!
I guess I'm still straddling the Lowry bandwagon too, even though he has been shooting poorly recently as Russell has been going the other way. I still think what he brings to the table would be more valuable to a healthy Wolves team than what DLo brings. I'm not too concerned about the knee...it's described as knee soreness. The Bucks are 22-5 at home and the Heat mediocre on the road, so this could be "load management" as much as anything,
Please stop the Lowry talk! :). Seriously, I want no part of any deal for Lowry. Kyrie is a different story. I don't like him. He's a selfish head case, but he's an elite talent who is still producing at an elite level. He'd probably be a 3-4 month rental and you never know for sure what you'll get from him. So if we're talking DLO and Nowell for Kyrie, I'm interested. But I wouldn't want to give up much more for him.
Can't stop, won't stop!
I'd prefer Kyrie obviously too, but Sean Marks isn't picking up the phone for the deal you suggest...I don't think Nowell is much of an asset. More likely he would want Russell and Jaden, and I don't do that deal. But I would pull the trigger on DLo/Naz/MooreJr./2nd round pick. I just don't think that's enough though.
Unfortunately, think the market for Russell is more at the Lowry level. I don't know, maybe Conley, but probably not. Maybe TC can find a POBO out there who craves a PG with a consistent negative on/off and net rating but who has the ability to heroically cut 22 point 4th quarter deficits to 7. We can only hope. But if not, I think we need to set our sights on more reasonable targets.
I knew I couldn't make you stop, FNG. But likewise, I can't and won't stop complaining about the Gobert deal. So there! :)
Kyrie for DLO, Naz and Moore Jr would be a hard one to turn down. I wouldn't include a 2nd-round pick. We only have 3 1st-round picks and I think 4 2nd-round picks in the next 7 drafts. You have to draw the line somewhere on giving up picks and I think it's time for the Wolves front office to draw that line in the sand right now. I think Kyrie will end up with the Lakers or Clippers.
With the trade deadline approaching, one thing and only one thing is certain: Kyrie will be traded. Kyrie is determined to leave and the market for him seems pretty hot. Based on the most recent reports it looks like Kyrie will end up in LA, although I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in Phoenix. As a Wolves fan, I'd prefer to see him end up with the Clippers because that's a team I don't think we'll finish ahead of in the standings so long as Paul George and Kawhi Leonard remain healthy. I think it's a certainty that Kyrie would vault the Suns or Lakers ahead of the Wolves. The Suns might pass the Wolves without Kyrie since Booker is returning soon. So I think the biggest threat to the Wolves would be Kyrie going to the Lakers. That plus my general disdain for the Lakers leaves me hoping Kyrie ends up with the Clippers or Suns. While I'd love to believe Kyrie would end up with the Knicks or another Eastern Conference team, I just don't see that happening.
lipoli390 wrote:With the trade deadline approaching, one thing and only one thing is certain: Kyrie will be traded. Kyrie is determined to leave and the market for him seems pretty hot. Based on the most recent reports it looks like Kyrie will end up in LA, although I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in Phoenix. As a Wolves fan, I'd prefer to see him end up with the Clippers because that's a team I don't think we'll finish ahead of in the standings so long as Paul George and Kawhi Leonard remain healthy. I think it's a certainty that Kyrie would vault the Suns or Lakers ahead of the Wolves. The Suns might pass the Wolves without Kyrie since Booker is returning soon. So I think the biggest threat to the Wolves would be Kyrie going to the Lakers. That plus my general disdain for the Lakers leaves me hoping Kyrie ends up with the Clippers or Suns. While I'd love to believe Kyrie would end up with the Knicks or another Eastern Conference team, I just don't see that happening.
Like you, I don't want to see Kyrie Irving wind up in Los Angeles. I think that would be bad news for Minnesota and the rest of the Western Conference, assuming he stays focused on basketball the rest of the season. However, I also don't want to see him end up in Dallas. That would be annoying because it seems like the Mavericks are trending downward a bit in large part to their reliance on Luka Doncic to be great. Even superstars on his level need help and Irving would be a tremendous number two there.
I think the best-case scenario for Minnesota is that he either sits out the rest of the season, or he's traded to Phoenix for Chris Paul and one of their role players. I think the Timberwolves could still be better than them at full health -- if we ever get to see that happen.
lipoli390 wrote:With the trade deadline approaching, one thing and only one thing is certain: Kyrie will be traded. Kyrie is determined to leave and the market for him seems pretty hot. Based on the most recent reports it looks like Kyrie will end up in LA, although I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in Phoenix. As a Wolves fan, I'd prefer to see him end up with the Clippers because that's a team I don't think we'll finish ahead of in the standings so long as Paul George and Kawhi Leonard remain healthy. I think it's a certainty that Kyrie would vault the Suns or Lakers ahead of the Wolves. The Suns might pass the Wolves without Kyrie since Booker is returning soon. So I think the biggest threat to the Wolves would be Kyrie going to the Lakers. That plus my general disdain for the Lakers leaves me hoping Kyrie ends up with the Clippers or Suns. While I'd love to believe Kyrie would end up with the Knicks or another Eastern Conference team, I just don't see that happening.
Like you, I don't want to see Kyrie Irving wind up in Los Angeles. I think that would be bad news for Minnesota and the rest of the Western Conference, assuming he stays focused on basketball the rest of the season. However, I also don't want to see him end up in Dallas. That would be annoying because it seems like the Mavericks are trending downward a bit in large part to their reliance on Luka Doncic to be great. Even superstars on his level need help and Irving would be a tremendous number two there.
I think the best-case scenario for Minnesota is that he either sits out the rest of the season, or he's traded to Phoenix for Chris Paul and one of their role players. I think the Timberwolves could still be better than them at full health -- if we ever get to see that happen.
Shams Charania wrote:BREAKING: The Brooklyn Nets are trading Kyrie Irving to the Dallas Mavericks for Spencer Dinwiddie, Dorian Finney-Smith, a first-round and multiple second-round picks, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.
