FNG wrote:I actually thought that 95% of the board had a fairly balanced view of Russell, and that much of the conversation was worthwhile and important. I think most of the board would describe him the way the national media would...as a talented combo guard who occasionally won games with hot shooting, but also could hurt his teams with inconsistent defense and shooting. I also think that most of us...me included...were a little naive when evaluating him as a teammate. My observation in attending games was that he was a good teammate, but that was obviously not entirely the case. I don't view Jon K's description of clubhouse issues as anything near Jimmy Butler or Christian Laettner level, but it's clear there was something in the air that was not at all constructive. Jon's reporting and the joyful way our squad responded in the Utah game makes me quite optimistic about our future and pleased with the deal.
Mr. FNG, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this Forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
FNG wrote:I actually thought that 95% of the board had a fairly balanced view of Russell, and that much of the conversation was worthwhile and important. I think most of the board would describe him the way the national media would...as a talented combo guard who occasionally won games with hot shooting, but also could hurt his teams with inconsistent defense and shooting. I also think that most of us...me included...were a little naive when evaluating him as a teammate. My observation in attending games was that he was a good teammate, but that was obviously not entirely the case. I don't view Jon K's description of clubhouse issues as anything near Jimmy Butler or Christian Laettner level, but it's clear there was something in the air that was not at all constructive. Jon's reporting and the joyful way our squad responded in the Utah game makes me quite optimistic about our future and pleased with the deal.
Mr. FNG, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this Forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Whoa, I hit a nerve! I'm confused. Did you view him quite differently than the way I described him above, or is your perception about how most of the board viewed him different than mine? I sense your opinion might be influenced here by hand full of posters here who either thought he was the second coming of Jesus Christ, or the Devil incarnate. But those on the edges with respect to DLo were clearly the minority. It's okay if you see it differently, but in my opinion, most of us here saw Dlo with a strong dose of reality...praised him when his shooting won games for us, and ripped him when his poor defense hurt us.
FNG wrote:I actually thought that 95% of the board had a fairly balanced view of Russell, and that much of the conversation was worthwhile and important. I think most of the board would describe him the way the national media would...as a talented combo guard who occasionally won games with hot shooting, but also could hurt his teams with inconsistent defense and shooting. I also think that most of us...me included...were a little naive when evaluating him as a teammate. My observation in attending games was that he was a good teammate, but that was obviously not entirely the case. I don't view Jon K's description of clubhouse issues as anything near Jimmy Butler or Christian Laettner level, but it's clear there was something in the air that was not at all constructive. Jon's reporting and the joyful way our squad responded in the Utah game makes me quite optimistic about our future and pleased with the deal.
Mr. FNG, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this Forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Whoa, I hit a nerve! I'm confused. Did you view him quite differently than the way I described him above, or is your perception about how most of the board viewed him different than mine? I sense your opinion might be influenced here by hand full of posters here who either thought he was the second coming of Jesus Christ, or the Devil incarnate. But those on the edges with respect to DLo were clearly the minority. It's okay if you see it differently, but in my opinion, most of us here saw Dlo with a strong dose of reality...praised him when his shooting won games for us, and ripped him when his poor defense hurt us.
I'm sorry if I offended you in some way.
I agree with your sentiment and agree with your point its funny line from Mr Madison. Just giving you shit.
BloopOracle wrote:"Glad he got away from this fan base."
He seems to be pretty skilled at that, being traded 5 times at only age 26!
Look, it's pretty clear that D. Russell is ridiculously polarizing. Here's a guy still getting ripped for arguably the hottest stretch of shooting we've seen in Minneapolis... ever!
But, it's also obvious that he's a terrible defender who does a lot of the little things that hurts his team, including playing with a seemingly high level of apathy or even indifference at times (at least defensively). Depending on what you value more... will dictate how you view Russell. Heck, it's the same for NBA teams. Teams keep signing/trading for him... and then trading or letting him walk.
But what's even more ridiculous are those who rip Russell for literally everything... AND... Camden for his over-the-top defense of Russell literally every single time.
I'm glad Russell is gone. It might be my favorite trade in Timberwolves history. But not necessarily for the on-the-court stuff.
This board has objectively become worse as the two sides have dug in deeper and deeper and deeper on the polarizing PG to the point that there's little to no value for anybody else walking into the thread to discuss basketball.
Nearly everybody here offers cool insights and value at one point or another. But this Russell stuff has become so tedious and silly. Hopefully, we can all move on.
The board will be better for it.
I'm assuming you quoted my post to talk to the board as a whole, seeing as I don't post as much as regulars and don't even crack the top 5 DLo haters. I expect this to be just like Rubio and drag on for years.
Yes. Definitely directed to all of us... sorry for any confusion.
FNG wrote:I actually thought that 95% of the board had a fairly balanced view of Russell, and that much of the conversation was worthwhile and important. I think most of the board would describe him the way the national media would...as a talented combo guard who occasionally won games with hot shooting, but also could hurt his teams with inconsistent defense and shooting. I also think that most of us...me included...were a little naive when evaluating him as a teammate. My observation in attending games was that he was a good teammate, but that was obviously not entirely the case. I don't view Jon K's description of clubhouse issues as anything near Jimmy Butler or Christian Laettner level, but it's clear there was something in the air that was not at all constructive. Jon's reporting and the joyful way our squad responded in the Utah game makes me quite optimistic about our future and pleased with the deal.
Mr. FNG, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this Forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Whoa, I hit a nerve! I'm confused. Did you view him quite differently than the way I described him above, or is your perception about how most of the board viewed him different than mine? I sense your opinion might be influenced here by hand full of posters here who either thought he was the second coming of Jesus Christ, or the Devil incarnate. But those on the edges with respect to DLo were clearly the minority. It's okay if you see it differently, but in my opinion, most of us here saw Dlo with a strong dose of reality...praised him when his shooting won games for us, and ripped him when his poor defense hurt us.
I'm sorry if I offended you in some way.
I agree with your sentiment and agree with your point its funny line from Mr Madison. Just giving you shit.
No worries...God knows I deserve a little shit now and then!
Jon Krawczynski: Anthony Edwards: "D-Lo never changed. He always was the same, man. Still my brother. Still gonna talk to him. Still gonna play the game with him. I want him to go over there and do the same thing he was doing over here over there. Go over there and ball." - via Twitter JonKrawczynski
Maybe DLO was mean to Rudy. But our front office should have been far more interested in what Ant thinks of DLO than how well DLO got along with the $38 million-dollar man who hasn't made this team one bit better than it was before he got here.
lipoli390 wrote:Jon Krawczynski: Anthony Edwards: "D-Lo never changed. He always was the same, man. Still my brother. Still gonna talk to him. Still gonna play the game with him. I want him to go over there and do the same thing he was doing over here over there. Go over there and ball." - via Twitter JonKrawczynski
Maybe DLO was mean to Rudy. But our front office should have been far more interested in what Ant thinks of DLO than how well DLO got along with the $38 million-dollar man who hasn't made this team one bit better than it was before he got here.
What was Ant going to say? Trash DLO to the media? Saying he couldn't play defense and was slow and soft? I wouldn't doubt they are friends or were to some extent. Being a teammate and spending that much time around someone you likely grow close to. Even if they give up more on defense then they score.
Jester1534 wrote:
I agree with your sentiment and agree with your point its funny line from Mr Madison. Just giving you shit.
HA-HA! You got me. I thought you were serious too. Glad it was just a joke. I recognized the quote, just couldn't tell if you were serious or not. Oh, and as long as we are joking around, here's one for you! :-)
lipoli390 wrote:Jon Krawczynski: Anthony Edwards: "D-Lo never changed. He always was the same, man. Still my brother. Still gonna talk to him. Still gonna play the game with him. I want him to go over there and do the same thing he was doing over here over there. Go over there and ball." - via Twitter JonKrawczynski
Maybe DLO was mean to Rudy. But our front office should have been far more interested in what Ant thinks of DLO than how well DLO got along with the $38 million-dollar man who hasn't made this team one bit better than it was before he got here.
What was Ant going to say? Trash DLO to the media? Saying he couldn't play defense and was slow and soft? I wouldn't doubt they are friends or were to some extent. Being a teammate and spending that much time around someone you likely grow close to. Even if they give up more on defense then they score.
Edwards didn't have to say anything. Note that Rudy hasn't said anything. Or he could have simply said he wishes him the best. I'll note also that DLO and Ant gratuitously praised each other several times during the season. More importantly, I posted Ant's comment to counter the ridiculous narrative in the title of this thread that DLO is a douche.
