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Camden wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
Camden wrote:The Nickeil Alexander-Walker situation is somewhat similar to Jarred Vanderbilt when he was acquired by Minnesota. Low usage, young player without a consistent role who showed flashes of production/potential in limited minutes before becoming a free agent. The main difference, obviously, is Alexander-Walker being set to make $7-million on a qualifying offer, which is a sizable overpay despite being just a one-year commitment.

Minnesota would be wise to not offer that and instead work on a multi-year deal at a lower, team-friendly annual salary with options and non-guaranteed money included. Alexander-Walker does not have much bargaining power, in my opinion, which should put him in a similar corner that Vanderbilt was in.

On another note, if they did offer the qualifying offer and he accepted it, which I think is very likely, then that would be a $7-million expiring contract that could potentially help net them a better player at a later time next season.


Personally I would just utilize the RFA aspect. If a team wants to pay him, then let them. Let the market dictate what to offer him.

Nowell to me has been and still is a Shabazz. Nothing about his play says conducive to team offense or defense. I would bet he is out of the league before I would bet that he has a long career.


That's a fine opinion to have except if Minnesota extends the qualifying offer to him, then I think he takes it and now you have Nickeil Alexander-Walker making $7-million next year with the ability to walk as an unrestricted free agent the following summer. He might be able to command approximately half of that annually on a multi-year deal.


He was a throw in on that trade. Let other franchises create the market for him and match it or let him walk to wherever.
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TheFuture wrote:
Camden wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
Camden wrote:The Nickeil Alexander-Walker situation is somewhat similar to Jarred Vanderbilt when he was acquired by Minnesota. Low usage, young player without a consistent role who showed flashes of production/potential in limited minutes before becoming a free agent. The main difference, obviously, is Alexander-Walker being set to make $7-million on a qualifying offer, which is a sizable overpay despite being just a one-year commitment.

Minnesota would be wise to not offer that and instead work on a multi-year deal at a lower, team-friendly annual salary with options and non-guaranteed money included. Alexander-Walker does not have much bargaining power, in my opinion, which should put him in a similar corner that Vanderbilt was in.

On another note, if they did offer the qualifying offer and he accepted it, which I think is very likely, then that would be a $7-million expiring contract that could potentially help net them a better player at a later time next season.


Personally I would just utilize the RFA aspect. If a team wants to pay him, then let them. Let the market dictate what to offer him.

Nowell to me has been and still is a Shabazz. Nothing about his play says conducive to team offense or defense. I would bet he is out of the league before I would bet that he has a long career.


That's a fine opinion to have except if Minnesota extends the qualifying offer to him, then I think he takes it and now you have Nickeil Alexander-Walker making $7-million next year with the ability to walk as an unrestricted free agent the following summer. He might be able to command approximately half of that annually on a multi-year deal.


He was a throw in on that trade. Let other franchises create the market for him and match it or let him walk to wherever.


I believe Cam is trying to explain that they have to extend the QO to be able to match which allows NAW to just take the 7 mil for one season.
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TheFuture wrote:
Camden wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
Camden wrote:The Nickeil Alexander-Walker situation is somewhat similar to Jarred Vanderbilt when he was acquired by Minnesota. Low usage, young player without a consistent role who showed flashes of production/potential in limited minutes before becoming a free agent. The main difference, obviously, is Alexander-Walker being set to make $7-million on a qualifying offer, which is a sizable overpay despite being just a one-year commitment.

Minnesota would be wise to not offer that and instead work on a multi-year deal at a lower, team-friendly annual salary with options and non-guaranteed money included. Alexander-Walker does not have much bargaining power, in my opinion, which should put him in a similar corner that Vanderbilt was in.

On another note, if they did offer the qualifying offer and he accepted it, which I think is very likely, then that would be a $7-million expiring contract that could potentially help net them a better player at a later time next season.


Personally I would just utilize the RFA aspect. If a team wants to pay him, then let them. Let the market dictate what to offer him.

Nowell to me has been and still is a Shabazz. Nothing about his play says conducive to team offense or defense. I would bet he is out of the league before I would bet that he has a long career.


That's a fine opinion to have except if Minnesota extends the qualifying offer to him, then I think he takes it and now you have Nickeil Alexander-Walker making $7-million next year with the ability to walk as an unrestricted free agent the following summer. He might be able to command approximately half of that annually on a multi-year deal.


He was a throw in on that trade. Let other franchises create the market for him and match it or let him walk to wherever.


Right... but Minnesota could and should do that without making him a restricted free agent. That's essentially my take. I think there's some disconnect here even though we probably evaluate the player similarly.

For Nickeil Alexander-Walker to become a RFA Minnesota would have to extend a qualifying offer of $7-million for next season and him decline it, which is considerably more than he's worth, and I think he would instead just sign that. I think they would be wise to bypass that entirely and agree to a multi-year deal before free agency or simply allow him to become an unrestricted free agent and go from there.
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TheFuture wrote:
Camden wrote:The Nickeil Alexander-Walker situation is somewhat similar to Jarred Vanderbilt when he was acquired by Minnesota. Low usage, young player without a consistent role who showed flashes of production/potential in limited minutes before becoming a free agent. The main difference, obviously, is Alexander-Walker being set to make $7-million on a qualifying offer, which is a sizable overpay despite being just a one-year commitment.

Minnesota would be wise to not offer that and instead work on a multi-year deal at a lower, team-friendly annual salary with options and non-guaranteed money included. Alexander-Walker does not have much bargaining power, in my opinion, which should put him in a similar corner that Vanderbilt was in.

On another note, if they did offer the qualifying offer and he accepted it, which I think is very likely, then that would be a $7-million expiring contract that could potentially help net them a better player at a later time next season.


Personally I would just utilize the RFA aspect. If a team wants to pay him, then let them. Let the market dictate what to offer him.

Nowell to me has been and still is a Shabazz. Nothing about his play says conducive to team offense or defense. I would bet he is out of the league before I would bet that he has a long career.


I don't think that the comparison to Bazz is without merit but to be fair to Nowell he offers more as a scorer and offensive player than Bazz could have ever dreamed of. Bazz outside of 10 feet from the basket shot like 30 something percent for his career outside of that range. Nowell's range extends to 16 feet. Nowell is a MUCH better ball handler and can score going more than to the left side of the basket. In addition Nowell averages almost 4x as many assists per 36 for his career as Bazz with basically the same amount of turnovers. It would be interesting to see the numbers on how both guys did in transition scoring. Nowell seems absolutely lethal there. In addition if I was gonna put a guy on the floor and said get me a bucket Nowell wouldn't be my first choice but he might get it done. Bazz? The question would be how many players he would run over while gaining an offensive foul and turnover. Lol

What kind of contract would I offer Nowell? Idk like Cam said a few weeks ago Nowell or at least his representation probably figures Nowell's best chance of getting a payday is some sort of short term prove it deal on a team that will give him a chance to play. To some extent what does Nowell have going for him that a G-league guard putting up nice stats? Nowell might be bigger than some guys but that doesn't factor in much on defense. Why not just sign a McClung type guy (ok not that athletic) but basically another combo guard that just gets buckets. Because I believe in him I'd offer something for 3 million maybe 4 if there was an option to walk away year 2. Ultimately I don't think it matters much it doesn't seem like Nowell will be back with the Wolves. I just see him looking for something different than what they will be offering.

Going back to NAW if Nowell leaves as I expect the Wolves could be a pretty good opportunity for him. He can play 1-3 and there is an outside chance for him to even become a starter here since Conley isn't the long term answer next to Edwards. The Wolves will likely bring in another guard if Nowell leaves but NAW could have a chance to keep or fight for a legit role. If Rivers leaves that's another reason for NAW to stay. Again the Wolves likely bring in some more guards in FA and Maybe Moore develops and gets some minutes next season but NAW would have an inside track on Moore for sure.

Before this season the exceptions for these guys were completely different. NAW was looking like the guy that might have to worry about being on an NBA roster and Nowell was looking to ascend to me a nice player and cash in on at least being a nice 6th man guy. This is also why as it's been mentioned already we shouldn't fall too much in love with NAW...especially in terms of salary.
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Carlos Danger wrote:
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These situations always give me pause. Teams tend to overpay on potential rather than going the easier route and signing guys like Rivers to minimum level contracts. How much better does NAW makes us as a team.


There is a lot of wisdom in those words. I agree. And as Wolves fans have chased potential as much as anyone. I certainly don't want to over pay NAW. Just like I didn't want to over pay DLO. But, if they can reach a reasonable agreement, it's certainly more exciting to have a player with some (potential) upside vs. a guy like Rivers IMO. It's really going to just come down to dollars. We would have same issue with Nowell (Potential vs. Production).


There isn't overpaying for the Wolves anymore. They have entered pay to keep territory.
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monsterpile wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
Camden wrote:The Nickeil Alexander-Walker situation is somewhat similar to Jarred Vanderbilt when he was acquired by Minnesota. Low usage, young player without a consistent role who showed flashes of production/potential in limited minutes before becoming a free agent. The main difference, obviously, is Alexander-Walker being set to make $7-million on a qualifying offer, which is a sizable overpay despite being just a one-year commitment.

Minnesota would be wise to not offer that and instead work on a multi-year deal at a lower, team-friendly annual salary with options and non-guaranteed money included. Alexander-Walker does not have much bargaining power, in my opinion, which should put him in a similar corner that Vanderbilt was in.

On another note, if they did offer the qualifying offer and he accepted it, which I think is very likely, then that would be a $7-million expiring contract that could potentially help net them a better player at a later time next season.


Personally I would just utilize the RFA aspect. If a team wants to pay him, then let them. Let the market dictate what to offer him.

Nowell to me has been and still is a Shabazz. Nothing about his play says conducive to team offense or defense. I would bet he is out of the league before I would bet that he has a long career.


I don't think that the comparison to Bazz is without merit but to be fair to Nowell he offers more as a scorer and offensive player than Bazz could have ever dreamed of. Bazz outside of 10 feet from the basket shot like 30 something percent for his career outside of that range. Nowell's range extends to 16 feet. Nowell is a MUCH better ball handler and can score going more than to the left side of the basket. In addition Nowell averages almost 4x as many assists per 36 for his career as Bazz with basically the same amount of turnovers. It would be interesting to see the numbers on how both guys did in transition scoring. Nowell seems absolutely lethal there. In addition if I was gonna put a guy on the floor and said get me a bucket Nowell wouldn't be my first choice but he might get it done. Bazz? The question would be how many players he would run over while gaining an offensive foul and turnover. Lol

What kind of contract would I offer Nowell? Idk like Cam said a few weeks ago Nowell or at least his representation probably figures Nowell's best chance of getting a payday is some sort of short term prove it deal on a team that will give him a chance to play. To some extent what does Nowell have going for him that a G-league guard putting up nice stats? Nowell might be bigger than some guys but that doesn't factor in much on defense. Why not just sign a McClung type guy (ok not that athletic) but basically another combo guard that just gets buckets. Because I believe in him I'd offer something for 3 million maybe 4 if there was an option to walk away year 2. Ultimately I don't think it matters much it doesn't seem like Nowell will be back with the Wolves. I just see him looking for something different than what they will be offering.

Going back to NAW if Nowell leaves as I expect the Wolves could be a pretty good opportunity for him. He can play 1-3 and there is an outside chance for him to even become a starter here since Conley isn't the long term answer next to Edwards. The Wolves will likely bring in another guard if Nowell leaves but NAW could have a chance to keep or fight for a legit role. If Rivers leaves that's another reason for NAW to stay. Again the Wolves likely bring in some more guards in FA and Maybe Moore develops and gets some minutes next season but NAW would have an inside track on Moore for sure.

Before this season the exceptions for these guys were completely different. NAW was looking like the guy that might have to worry about being on an NBA roster and Nowell was looking to ascend to me a nice player and cash in on at least being a nice 6th man guy. This is also why as it's been mentioned already we shouldn't fall too much in love with NAW...especially in terms of salary.


What does Nowell do well? Watch the guy, he is finally figuring out that passing is OK. He deserves a minimum contract. That is it.
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Camden wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
Camden wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
Camden wrote:The Nickeil Alexander-Walker situation is somewhat similar to Jarred Vanderbilt when he was acquired by Minnesota. Low usage, young player without a consistent role who showed flashes of production/potential in limited minutes before becoming a free agent. The main difference, obviously, is Alexander-Walker being set to make $7-million on a qualifying offer, which is a sizable overpay despite being just a one-year commitment.

Minnesota would be wise to not offer that and instead work on a multi-year deal at a lower, team-friendly annual salary with options and non-guaranteed money included. Alexander-Walker does not have much bargaining power, in my opinion, which should put him in a similar corner that Vanderbilt was in.

On another note, if they did offer the qualifying offer and he accepted it, which I think is very likely, then that would be a $7-million expiring contract that could potentially help net them a better player at a later time next season.


Personally I would just utilize the RFA aspect. If a team wants to pay him, then let them. Let the market dictate what to offer him.

Nowell to me has been and still is a Shabazz. Nothing about his play says conducive to team offense or defense. I would bet he is out of the league before I would bet that he has a long career.


That's a fine opinion to have except if Minnesota extends the qualifying offer to him, then I think he takes it and now you have Nickeil Alexander-Walker making $7-million next year with the ability to walk as an unrestricted free agent the following summer. He might be able to command approximately half of that annually on a multi-year deal.


He was a throw in on that trade. Let other franchises create the market for him and match it or let him walk to wherever.


Right... but Minnesota could and should do that without making him a restricted free agent. That's essentially my take. I think there's some disconnect here even though we probably evaluate the player similarly.

For Nickeil Alexander-Walker to become a RFA Minnesota would have to extend a qualifying offer of $7-million for next season and him decline it, which is considerably more than he's worth, and I think he would instead just sign that. I think they would be wise to bypass that entirely and agree to a multi-year deal before free agency or simply allow him to become an unrestricted free agent and go from there.


I would offer 4/20, if not accepted - goodbye. 20 mil over 4 is rather nice compared to a minimum.
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TheFuture wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
Camden wrote:The Nickeil Alexander-Walker situation is somewhat similar to Jarred Vanderbilt when he was acquired by Minnesota. Low usage, young player without a consistent role who showed flashes of production/potential in limited minutes before becoming a free agent. The main difference, obviously, is Alexander-Walker being set to make $7-million on a qualifying offer, which is a sizable overpay despite being just a one-year commitment.

Minnesota would be wise to not offer that and instead work on a multi-year deal at a lower, team-friendly annual salary with options and non-guaranteed money included. Alexander-Walker does not have much bargaining power, in my opinion, which should put him in a similar corner that Vanderbilt was in.

On another note, if they did offer the qualifying offer and he accepted it, which I think is very likely, then that would be a $7-million expiring contract that could potentially help net them a better player at a later time next season.


Personally I would just utilize the RFA aspect. If a team wants to pay him, then let them. Let the market dictate what to offer him.

Nowell to me has been and still is a Shabazz. Nothing about his play says conducive to team offense or defense. I would bet he is out of the league before I would bet that he has a long career.


I don't think that the comparison to Bazz is without merit but to be fair to Nowell he offers more as a scorer and offensive player than Bazz could have ever dreamed of. Bazz outside of 10 feet from the basket shot like 30 something percent for his career outside of that range. Nowell's range extends to 16 feet. Nowell is a MUCH better ball handler and can score going more than to the left side of the basket. In addition Nowell averages almost 4x as many assists per 36 for his career as Bazz with basically the same amount of turnovers. It would be interesting to see the numbers on how both guys did in transition scoring. Nowell seems absolutely lethal there. In addition if I was gonna put a guy on the floor and said get me a bucket Nowell wouldn't be my first choice but he might get it done. Bazz? The question would be how many players he would run over while gaining an offensive foul and turnover. Lol

What kind of contract would I offer Nowell? Idk like Cam said a few weeks ago Nowell or at least his representation probably figures Nowell's best chance of getting a payday is some sort of short term prove it deal on a team that will give him a chance to play. To some extent what does Nowell have going for him that a G-league guard putting up nice stats? Nowell might be bigger than some guys but that doesn't factor in much on defense. Why not just sign a McClung type guy (ok not that athletic) but basically another combo guard that just gets buckets. Because I believe in him I'd offer something for 3 million maybe 4 if there was an option to walk away year 2. Ultimately I don't think it matters much it doesn't seem like Nowell will be back with the Wolves. I just see him looking for something different than what they will be offering.

Going back to NAW if Nowell leaves as I expect the Wolves could be a pretty good opportunity for him. He can play 1-3 and there is an outside chance for him to even become a starter here since Conley isn't the long term answer next to Edwards. The Wolves will likely bring in another guard if Nowell leaves but NAW could have a chance to keep or fight for a legit role. If Rivers leaves that's another reason for NAW to stay. Again the Wolves likely bring in some more guards in FA and Maybe Moore develops and gets some minutes next season but NAW would have an inside track on Moore for sure.

Before this season the exceptions for these guys were completely different. NAW was looking like the guy that might have to worry about being on an NBA roster and Nowell was looking to ascend to me a nice player and cash in on at least being a nice 6th man guy. This is also why as it's been mentioned already we shouldn't fall too much in love with NAW...especially in terms of salary.


What does Nowell do well? Watch the guy, he is finally figuring out that passing is OK. He deserves a minimum contract. That is it.


This year? Not much, except he is very good at creating his own shot in the lane. And while he's not very effective, I never question his effort on defense.

But last year and also in college, he was a very good 3-point shooter. And a couple weeks ago he made a correction on his shooting form and started to make shots...but then he hurt his knee, and the eye chart Nowell returned. But let's not forget he was the Pac 10 player of the year his final year there.

It's a mystery what we will do with him. But I'm fairly certain he's a better player than he has shown this season.
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FNG wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
Camden wrote:The Nickeil Alexander-Walker situation is somewhat similar to Jarred Vanderbilt when he was acquired by Minnesota. Low usage, young player without a consistent role who showed flashes of production/potential in limited minutes before becoming a free agent. The main difference, obviously, is Alexander-Walker being set to make $7-million on a qualifying offer, which is a sizable overpay despite being just a one-year commitment.

Minnesota would be wise to not offer that and instead work on a multi-year deal at a lower, team-friendly annual salary with options and non-guaranteed money included. Alexander-Walker does not have much bargaining power, in my opinion, which should put him in a similar corner that Vanderbilt was in.

On another note, if they did offer the qualifying offer and he accepted it, which I think is very likely, then that would be a $7-million expiring contract that could potentially help net them a better player at a later time next season.


Personally I would just utilize the RFA aspect. If a team wants to pay him, then let them. Let the market dictate what to offer him.

Nowell to me has been and still is a Shabazz. Nothing about his play says conducive to team offense or defense. I would bet he is out of the league before I would bet that he has a long career.


I don't think that the comparison to Bazz is without merit but to be fair to Nowell he offers more as a scorer and offensive player than Bazz could have ever dreamed of. Bazz outside of 10 feet from the basket shot like 30 something percent for his career outside of that range. Nowell's range extends to 16 feet. Nowell is a MUCH better ball handler and can score going more than to the left side of the basket. In addition Nowell averages almost 4x as many assists per 36 for his career as Bazz with basically the same amount of turnovers. It would be interesting to see the numbers on how both guys did in transition scoring. Nowell seems absolutely lethal there. In addition if I was gonna put a guy on the floor and said get me a bucket Nowell wouldn't be my first choice but he might get it done. Bazz? The question would be how many players he would run over while gaining an offensive foul and turnover. Lol

What kind of contract would I offer Nowell? Idk like Cam said a few weeks ago Nowell or at least his representation probably figures Nowell's best chance of getting a payday is some sort of short term prove it deal on a team that will give him a chance to play. To some extent what does Nowell have going for him that a G-league guard putting up nice stats? Nowell might be bigger than some guys but that doesn't factor in much on defense. Why not just sign a McClung type guy (ok not that athletic) but basically another combo guard that just gets buckets. Because I believe in him I'd offer something for 3 million maybe 4 if there was an option to walk away year 2. Ultimately I don't think it matters much it doesn't seem like Nowell will be back with the Wolves. I just see him looking for something different than what they will be offering.

Going back to NAW if Nowell leaves as I expect the Wolves could be a pretty good opportunity for him. He can play 1-3 and there is an outside chance for him to even become a starter here since Conley isn't the long term answer next to Edwards. The Wolves will likely bring in another guard if Nowell leaves but NAW could have a chance to keep or fight for a legit role. If Rivers leaves that's another reason for NAW to stay. Again the Wolves likely bring in some more guards in FA and Maybe Moore develops and gets some minutes next season but NAW would have an inside track on Moore for sure.

Before this season the exceptions for these guys were completely different. NAW was looking like the guy that might have to worry about being on an NBA roster and Nowell was looking to ascend to me a nice player and cash in on at least being a nice 6th man guy. This is also why as it's been mentioned already we shouldn't fall too much in love with NAW...especially in terms of salary.


What does Nowell do well? Watch the guy, he is finally figuring out that passing is OK. He deserves a minimum contract. That is it.


This year? Not much, except he is very good at creating his own shot in the lane. And while he's not very effective, I never question his effort on defense.

But last year and also in college, he was a very good 3-point shooter. And a couple weeks ago he made a correction on his shooting form and started to make shots...but then he hurt his knee, and the eye chart Nowell returned. But let's not forget he was the Pac 10 player of the year his final year there.

It's a mystery what we will do with him. But I'm fairly certain he's a better player than he has shown this season.


Charting out a player based on G-League and College stats never ends up well. Altering shooting form rarely works well.

It just simply boils down to this - are you going to make an offer to Nowell or NAW?
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TheFuture wrote:
FNG wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
TheFuture wrote:
Camden wrote:The Nickeil Alexander-Walker situation is somewhat similar to Jarred Vanderbilt when he was acquired by Minnesota. Low usage, young player without a consistent role who showed flashes of production/potential in limited minutes before becoming a free agent. The main difference, obviously, is Alexander-Walker being set to make $7-million on a qualifying offer, which is a sizable overpay despite being just a one-year commitment.

Minnesota would be wise to not offer that and instead work on a multi-year deal at a lower, team-friendly annual salary with options and non-guaranteed money included. Alexander-Walker does not have much bargaining power, in my opinion, which should put him in a similar corner that Vanderbilt was in.

On another note, if they did offer the qualifying offer and he accepted it, which I think is very likely, then that would be a $7-million expiring contract that could potentially help net them a better player at a later time next season.


Personally I would just utilize the RFA aspect. If a team wants to pay him, then let them. Let the market dictate what to offer him.

Nowell to me has been and still is a Shabazz. Nothing about his play says conducive to team offense or defense. I would bet he is out of the league before I would bet that he has a long career.


I don't think that the comparison to Bazz is without merit but to be fair to Nowell he offers more as a scorer and offensive player than Bazz could have ever dreamed of. Bazz outside of 10 feet from the basket shot like 30 something percent for his career outside of that range. Nowell's range extends to 16 feet. Nowell is a MUCH better ball handler and can score going more than to the left side of the basket. In addition Nowell averages almost 4x as many assists per 36 for his career as Bazz with basically the same amount of turnovers. It would be interesting to see the numbers on how both guys did in transition scoring. Nowell seems absolutely lethal there. In addition if I was gonna put a guy on the floor and said get me a bucket Nowell wouldn't be my first choice but he might get it done. Bazz? The question would be how many players he would run over while gaining an offensive foul and turnover. Lol

What kind of contract would I offer Nowell? Idk like Cam said a few weeks ago Nowell or at least his representation probably figures Nowell's best chance of getting a payday is some sort of short term prove it deal on a team that will give him a chance to play. To some extent what does Nowell have going for him that a G-league guard putting up nice stats? Nowell might be bigger than some guys but that doesn't factor in much on defense. Why not just sign a McClung type guy (ok not that athletic) but basically another combo guard that just gets buckets. Because I believe in him I'd offer something for 3 million maybe 4 if there was an option to walk away year 2. Ultimately I don't think it matters much it doesn't seem like Nowell will be back with the Wolves. I just see him looking for something different than what they will be offering.

Going back to NAW if Nowell leaves as I expect the Wolves could be a pretty good opportunity for him. He can play 1-3 and there is an outside chance for him to even become a starter here since Conley isn't the long term answer next to Edwards. The Wolves will likely bring in another guard if Nowell leaves but NAW could have a chance to keep or fight for a legit role. If Rivers leaves that's another reason for NAW to stay. Again the Wolves likely bring in some more guards in FA and Maybe Moore develops and gets some minutes next season but NAW would have an inside track on Moore for sure.

Before this season the exceptions for these guys were completely different. NAW was looking like the guy that might have to worry about being on an NBA roster and Nowell was looking to ascend to me a nice player and cash in on at least being a nice 6th man guy. This is also why as it's been mentioned already we shouldn't fall too much in love with NAW...especially in terms of salary.


What does Nowell do well? Watch the guy, he is finally figuring out that passing is OK. He deserves a minimum contract. That is it.


This year? Not much, except he is very good at creating his own shot in the lane. And while he's not very effective, I never question his effort on defense.

But last year and also in college, he was a very good 3-point shooter. And a couple weeks ago he made a correction on his shooting form and started to make shots...but then he hurt his knee, and the eye chart Nowell returned. But let's not forget he was the Pac 10 player of the year his final year there.

It's a mystery what we will do with him. But I'm fairly certain he's a better player than he has shown this season.


Charting out a player based on G-League and College stats never ends up well. Altering shooting form rarely works well.

It just simply boils down to this - are you going to make an offer to Nowell or NAW?


Fair points, future, and right now clearly NAW...he's been quite impressive. But I'm hoping nowell comes back healthy this week and eliminates the possibility of any rivers or Ryan minutes, and even better...plays well enough to make TCs decision a little more difficult. I'm confident we are going to defend, but we can't have too many wing scorers.
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