Twins Free Agency

[bleedspeed]

I figured I would start this thread. Looking at this list of 184 free agents ranked I see a few former Twins. Not sure what we will do. Shohei Otani or bust for me.

https://sports.yahoo.com/2017-mlb-ultimate-free-agent-tracker-171558507.html

[Monster]

Twins signed some minor league guys.

Willians Astudillo is an interesting guy.

https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2017/11/30/16709008/willians-astudillo-free-agent-twins-please-i-dont-ask-for-much

Also it's nice we got another catcher with pitching experience. This guy can even give you 2 innings straight!

[Jester1534]

My offseason Plan if I'm running the show here

I trade a couple of our middle tier prospects for Raisel Iglesias who served as the closer for the reds last year. He's 28 years old and is signed to very friendly deal through 2022. Across 76.0 Innings last year Iglesias picked up 28 saves and posted a career best 2.49 ERA. His 2.70 FIP was also a career best and he cracked 10.0 K/9.
4.5-5 mil/Yr

I sign Yu Darvish to a 6yr 140 million dollar deal. We need an ace. Despite his World Series disasters he's still an ace and we need to go after him hard. 23 mil/Yr

Then I go after Jason Vargas to a 2 year deal with Team option for a third year for 36 mil. Vargas was all star last year pitching on not so good Royals team. He's a lefty pitcher which we deseperatley need who's had a ton of success against the central division. 12 mil/Yr

Re-sign Matt Belise for peanuts 2mil

Sign Carlos Santana for 4 years 50-56 mil. Santana will be our DH and also has turned himself into a very good Firstbasemen. I think he's the perfect bat for our line up. 15.2 percent strikeout rate against a 17 percent walk mark, in his 4,782-PA career. 13mil/yr

Twins Payroll Now
$66,700,000
Twins Payroll after Moves
$121,700,000 (Would Rank us 19th in Payroll as of 2017 Opening day Payrolls)

Now I know this seems like a lot of money for the Twins but I could see them spending this year because the twins right now for 2019 are on the hook for a little over 33 million.

Line Up
Santana he did lead off a lot for the Indians
Mauer
Buxton
Sano
Dozier
Rosario
Kepler
Polanco
Castro

Starting pitching
Darvish
Santana
Vargas
Berrios
I believe Romero wins the 5th starting job out of spring training

Bullpen
Closer Igleasis
Set Up Hilldenberger
Set Up Bueznitz
Belisle
Rogers
May
Boshers? Idk I actually like his stuff as a specialist
Rule 5 guy to be the long reliever or Mejia because he can come in against lefties or pitch in blow outs.

Also I would spend our international money on Julio Pablo Martinez 21 year old hit .297/.345/.449 with seven homers and 20 steals in 57 games this past season in Cuba. He probably needs 2 or 3 years in the minors, but I really like his swing and he should start out in double A.

[Monster]

My offseason Plan if I'm running the show here

I trade a couple of our middle tier prospects for Raisel Iglesias who served as the closer for the reds last year. He's 28 years old and is signed to very friendly deal through 2022. Across 76.0 Innings last year Iglesias picked up 28 saves and posted a career best 2.49 ERA. His 2.70 FIP was also a career best and he cracked 10.0 K/9.
4.5-5 mil/Yr

I sign Yu Darvish to a 6yr 140 million dollar deal. We need an ace. Despite his World Series disasters he's still an ace and we need to go after him hard. 23 mil/Yr

Then I go after Jason Vargas to a 2 year deal with Team option for a third year for 36 mil. Vargas was all star last year pitching on not so good Royals team. He's a lefty pitcher which we deseperatley need who's had a ton of success against the central division. 12 mil/Yr

Re-sign Matt Belise for peanuts 2mil

Sign Carlos Santana for 4 years 50-56 mil. Santana will be our DH and also has turned himself into a very good Firstbasemen. I think he's the perfect bat for our line up. 15.2 percent strikeout rate against a 17 percent walk mark, in his 4,782-PA career. 13mil/yr

Twins Payroll Now
$66,700,000
Twins Payroll after Moves
$121,700,000 (Would Rank us 19th in Payroll as of 2017 Opening day Payrolls)

Now I know this seems like a lot of money for the Twins but I could see them spending this year because the twins right now for 2019 are on the hook for a little over 33 million.

Line Up
Santana he did lead off a lot for the Indians
Mauer
Buxton
Sano
Dozier
Rosario
Kepler
Polanco
Castro

Starting pitching
Darvish
Santana
Vargas
Berrios
I believe Romero wins the 5th starting job out of spring training

Bullpen
Closer Igleasis
Set Up Hilldenberger
Set Up Bueznitz
Belisle
Rogers
May
Boshers? Idk I actually like his stuff as a specialist
Rule 5 guy to be the long reliever or Mejia because he can come in against lefties or pitch in blow outs.

Also I would spend our international money on Julio Pablo Martinez 21 year old hit .297/.345/.449 with seven homers and 20 steals in 57 games this past season in Cuba. He probably needs 2 or 3 years in the minors, but I really like his swing and he should start out in double A.

Thanks for this Jester. I'd be on board with your plan. :)

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Excellent work, jester. Wow, a lineup with our best hitter the last couple months of the season (Polanco) batting 8th would be quite potent!

Where I disagree with you is on our need for starting pitchers. You leave out Kyle Gibson, who (along with Polanco) was a major reason we made the playoffs last year...he was our best starter the last month of the season, and had a 3.76 ERA after the all-star break. You also ignore Mejia, who is only 24 and has great promise as a lefty starter. In addition, we have so many pitchers knocking at the door in Rochester...take a look at this excellent article from Nick Nelson:

http://twinsdaily.com/_/minnesota-twins-news/minnesota-twins/the-impending-rochester-rotation-crunch-r6253

BTW, Nick actually agrees with you with one of his options for how to proceed...suggesting perhaps we could package some of these excellent prospects for a front-line starter. I would prefer to see how these young arms pan out though.

[Jester1534]

Excellent work, jester. Wow, a lineup with our best hitter the last couple months of the season (Polanco) batting 8th would be quite potent!

Where I disagree with you is on our need for starting pitchers. You leave out Kyle Gibson, who (along with Polanco) was a major reason we made the playoffs last year...he was our best starter the last month of the season, and had a 3.76 ERA after the all-star break. You also ignore Mejia, who is only 24 and has great promise as a lefty starter. In addition, we have so many pitchers knocking at the door in Rochester...take a look at this excellent article from Nick Nelson:

http://twinsdaily.com/_/minnesota-twins-news/minnesota-twins/the-impending-rochester-rotation-crunch-r6253

BTW, Nick actually agrees with you with one of his options for how to proceed...suggesting perhaps we could package some of these excellent prospects for a front-line starter. I would prefer to see how these young arms pan out though.

I just don't trust Gibson and I've seen Romero pitch multiple times and this guy has the stuff to be a frontline starter. I would Polanco in the two hole but I just done see Molitor dropping Mauer down but you could spot him 6th and then drop Rosario and Kepler down. I know polanco was hot at the end of the season lets hope he keeps it up and turned the corner and now will be more consistent.

[bleedspeed]

Do you think we need an upgrade or Platoon player with Kepler?

[Jester1534]

Do you think we need an upgrade or Platoon player with Kepler?

Honestly if they don't get Darvish. I would look to Package Gordon Kepler and a young pitcher like Archer and then just role with Granite for the year or get a guy to platoon with Granite

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

Excellent work, jester. Wow, a lineup with our best hitter the last couple months of the season (Polanco) batting 8th would be quite potent!

Where I disagree with you is on our need for starting pitchers. You leave out Kyle Gibson, who (along with Polanco) was a major reason we made the playoffs last year...he was our best starter the last month of the season, and had a 3.76 ERA after the all-star break. You also ignore Mejia, who is only 24 and has great promise as a lefty starter. In addition, we have so many pitchers knocking at the door in Rochester...take a look at this excellent article from Nick Nelson:

http://twinsdaily.com/_/minnesota-twins-news/minnesota-twins/the-impending-rochester-rotation-crunch-r6253

BTW, Nick actually agrees with you with one of his options for how to proceed...suggesting perhaps we could package some of these excellent prospects for a front-line starter. I would prefer to see how these young arms pan out though.

I just don't trust Gibson and I've seen Romero pitch multiple times and this guy has the stuff to be a frontline starter. I would Polanco in the two hole but I just done see Molitor dropping Mauer down but you could spot him 6th and then drop Rosario and Kepler down. I know polanco was hot at the end of the season lets hope he keeps it up and turned the corner and now will be more consistent.

You and I disagree on Gibson...it looked to me like he "got it" the second half of the year, and established himself as a legitimate end of the rotation starter. I also like Mejia's stuff...he's only 24, and lefties usually find their stride a little later than righties (heck, even Koufax wasn't very good at 24...4.05 ERA). Then you add in Romero, Gonsalves, May and some of the other guys waiting in Rochester, and you wonder if we are a little too crowded in the rotation to justify spending money on a high dollar free agent.

[Jester1534]

Excellent work, jester. Wow, a lineup with our best hitter the last couple months of the season (Polanco) batting 8th would be quite potent!

Where I disagree with you is on our need for starting pitchers. You leave out Kyle Gibson, who (along with Polanco) was a major reason we made the playoffs last year...he was our best starter the last month of the season, and had a 3.76 ERA after the all-star break. You also ignore Mejia, who is only 24 and has great promise as a lefty starter. In addition, we have so many pitchers knocking at the door in Rochester...take a look at this excellent article from Nick Nelson:

http://twinsdaily.com/_/minnesota-twins-news/minnesota-twins/the-impending-rochester-rotation-crunch-r6253

BTW, Nick actually agrees with you with one of his options for how to proceed...suggesting perhaps we could package some of these excellent prospects for a front-line starter. I would prefer to see how these young arms pan out though.

I just don't trust Gibson and I've seen Romero pitch multiple times and this guy has the stuff to be a frontline starter. I would Polanco in the two hole but I just done see Molitor dropping Mauer down but you could spot him 6th and then drop Rosario and Kepler down. I know polanco was hot at the end of the season lets hope he keeps it up and turned the corner and now will be more consistent.

You and I disagree on Gibson...it looked to me like he "got it" the second half of the year, and established himself as a legitimate end of the rotation starter. I also like Mejia's stuff...he's only 24, and lefties usually find their stride a little later than righties (heck, even Koufax wasn't very good at 24...4.05 ERA). Then you add in Romero, Gonsalves, May and some of the other guys waiting in Rochester, and you wonder if we are a little too crowded in the rotation to justify spending money on a high dollar free agent.

Ugh Lst I swear we're doomed to argue about the Twins 5th starter till the end of our days lol. It's like Mike Pelfrey all over again. Which Gibson are we getting though the first 16 starts of 2017, he owned a terrible 6.31 ERA and was allowing opposing hitters a .934 OPS off of him. After making some tweaks, mid-July began a new narrative. Over his final 13 starts, Gibson owned a 3.76 ERA .709 OPS. My point is this guy has been inconsistent is whole career and we do have a ton of options to fill in his spot. This team needs an Ace and we had this discussion earlier this year we're we counted out about 33 guys if I remember, well two of them are available by FA or by trade. I can understand not signing Vargas but this team needs lefty and I think he's better than Mejia and this coming from a guy who does really love Mejia stuff but if he can't locate his fastball he can never be a starter in this league.