CoolBreeze44 wrote:See, I don't agree that the key with Jaden is his 3 point shooting. Sure it would be great if he improves in that area and I'm sure he will. But Finchy has said repeatedly that he wants to develop Jaden into a complete player and that he has the talent to be one. I think the key is him being able to get his own shot and become a triple threat. I wouldn't want to put any ceilings on that guy or pigeon-hole him into any type of role. If they were both fully developed, I'd take Wig.
His outside shot should, and likely will, take priority over anything else in his development. Without a consistent stroke from behind the arc he's capped as a rotation player and little else. If he's able to do that, then we can discuss how much further he can ascend. Until he makes the defense respect his shot out there little else will matter, in my opinion.
I'm not going to take the time to look it up, but I wonder what his shooting splits were after the first 20-30 games. He got off to such a miserable start, he might have already made the improvement we want to see from behind the arc. He shot 50% from 3 in the playoffs, which was encouraging. One thing that will help is him getting more shots. Too often he was forgotten about while his teammates took turns getting shots up. The ability to create for himself will help him get more involved. Here is an article I found interesting about some of the things we're talking about:
Well, I will because I'm curious. Jaden McDaniels shot 31.7-percent from three in 70 games played this season. He shot 26.4-percent through his first 20 games and 33.2-percent in his next 50 games.
On a positive note, his numbers in general improved from February onward as he shot 36.7-percent from three on almost four attempts per game. He also had a true shooting percentage of .615 in that timeframe, which is great. The rub is that it was only a 23-game sample. Nonetheless, it's better to see him finish the season on a high note rather than not.
Basically, I think we need a lot more from him, especially as a perimeter shooter, before we can imply with any confidence that he's figured it out from deep. The early returns have been wildly inconsistent, but he's shown enough to remain intrigued. Hopefully, everything clicks in that proverbial third season. His outside shot sets up everything else not only for him, but for his teammates. They need him to be a better shooter.
His effective field goal percentage was better than DLO's. Just sayin
CoolBreeze44 wrote:See, I don't agree that the key with Jaden is his 3 point shooting. Sure it would be great if he improves in that area and I'm sure he will. But Finchy has said repeatedly that he wants to develop Jaden into a complete player and that he has the talent to be one. I think the key is him being able to get his own shot and become a triple threat. I wouldn't want to put any ceilings on that guy or pigeon-hole him into any type of role. If they were both fully developed, I'd take Wig.
His outside shot should, and likely will, take priority over anything else in his development. Without a consistent stroke from behind the arc he's capped as a rotation player and little else. If he's able to do that, then we can discuss how much further he can ascend. Until he makes the defense respect his shot out there little else will matter, in my opinion.
I'm not going to take the time to look it up, but I wonder what his shooting splits were after the first 20-30 games. He got off to such a miserable start, he might have already made the improvement we want to see from behind the arc. He shot 50% from 3 in the playoffs, which was encouraging. One thing that will help is him getting more shots. Too often he was forgotten about while his teammates took turns getting shots up. The ability to create for himself will help him get more involved. Here is an article I found interesting about some of the things we're talking about:
Well, I will because I'm curious. Jaden McDaniels shot 31.7-percent from three in 70 games played this season. He shot 26.4-percent through his first 20 games and 33.2-percent in his next 50 games.
On a positive note, his numbers in general improved from February onward as he shot 36.7-percent from three on almost four attempts per game. He also had a true shooting percentage of .615 in that timeframe, which is great. The rub is that it was only a 23-game sample. Nonetheless, it's better to see him finish the season on a high note rather than not.
Basically, I think we need a lot more from him, especially as a perimeter shooter, before we can imply with any confidence that he's figured it out from deep. The early returns have been wildly inconsistent, but he's shown enough to remain intrigued. Hopefully, everything clicks in that proverbial third season. His outside shot sets up everything else not only for him, but for his teammates. They need him to be a better shooter.
His effective field goal percentage was better than DLO's. Just sayin
At what point were we talking about D'Angelo Russell?
CoolBreeze44 wrote:See, I don't agree that the key with Jaden is his 3 point shooting. Sure it would be great if he improves in that area and I'm sure he will. But Finchy has said repeatedly that he wants to develop Jaden into a complete player and that he has the talent to be one. I think the key is him being able to get his own shot and become a triple threat. I wouldn't want to put any ceilings on that guy or pigeon-hole him into any type of role. If they were both fully developed, I'd take Wig.
His outside shot should, and likely will, take priority over anything else in his development. Without a consistent stroke from behind the arc he's capped as a rotation player and little else. If he's able to do that, then we can discuss how much further he can ascend. Until he makes the defense respect his shot out there little else will matter, in my opinion.
I'm not going to take the time to look it up, but I wonder what his shooting splits were after the first 20-30 games. He got off to such a miserable start, he might have already made the improvement we want to see from behind the arc. He shot 50% from 3 in the playoffs, which was encouraging. One thing that will help is him getting more shots. Too often he was forgotten about while his teammates took turns getting shots up. The ability to create for himself will help him get more involved. Here is an article I found interesting about some of the things we're talking about:
Well, I will because I'm curious. Jaden McDaniels shot 31.7-percent from three in 70 games played this season. He shot 26.4-percent through his first 20 games and 33.2-percent in his next 50 games.
On a positive note, his numbers in general improved from February onward as he shot 36.7-percent from three on almost four attempts per game. He also had a true shooting percentage of .615 in that timeframe, which is great. The rub is that it was only a 23-game sample. Nonetheless, it's better to see him finish the season on a high note rather than not.
Basically, I think we need a lot more from him, especially as a perimeter shooter, before we can imply with any confidence that he's figured it out from deep. The early returns have been wildly inconsistent, but he's shown enough to remain intrigued. Hopefully, everything clicks in that proverbial third season. His outside shot sets up everything else not only for him, but for his teammates. They need him to be a better shooter.
His effective field goal percentage was better than DLO's. Just sayin
At what point were we talking about D'Angelo Russell?
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Kek makes a good point and I agree with Q that keeping his usage down is a key to his success. I don't remember anybody ever saying he was an alpha or someone you could build a team around. Why can't we just tip our hat to him for playing well in these playoffs and being a key contributor to a potential title team? I don't believe they would be in this position without him. We don't need to talk about where he ranks on the team. I mean who really cares? Wolves fans who couldn't accept him for the salary he was making are always going to underrate him. Most of the rest of NBA followers see him for what he really is. I'm just happy for the guy, and I'm pulling for the Warriors to win it all, even though it would suck to see Kerr win again.
I'm guessing you don't like Kerr for political reasons?
D-Bag reasons
I heard he kicks kittens.
[Note: But he does it with a mask on, so I think it's ok.]
Miami and Boston playing about as good of defense as I've seen in terms of the way the game is played these days. I guess the Bucks are up there too. Butler, Tatum, and Brown all look like fairly pedestrian players in this series because the opposing defense is so freakin' good. Brown can't seem to get to the basket without getting stripped or losing the ball nearly every single time!
Q-was-here wrote:Tatum is just getting beat down. PJ Tucker wore Durant down last year; looks like he's doing the same thing to Tatum this year.
Just saw the final score. Looks like Tatum and Brown got going after a poor start. I should really be watching more of these playoff games.
You definitely shouldn't, these conference finals have been absolute ass. Just blowouts back and forth, I can't remember the last time I watched a suspenseful game
Q-was-here wrote:Tatum is just getting beat down. PJ Tucker wore Durant down last year; looks like he's doing the same thing to Tatum this year.
Just saw the final score. Looks like Tatum and Brown got going after a poor start. I should really be watching more of these playoff games.
I think Brown eventually figured out that rather than trying to get all the way to the rim (where he'd inevitably either run into a brick wall or get stripped trying to get there), simply pulling up from 16 feet and knocking down the mid-range J was ultimately the best shot.
It's a shot Ant is going to have to learn to make on a regular basis if he wants to be among the elite scorers in the game, as teams will increasingly crowd him at the 3-point line and then build a wall in the paint. Often times that 15-18 foot pull up J will be all that's available to him.
Q-was-here wrote:Tatum is just getting beat down. PJ Tucker wore Durant down last year; looks like he's doing the same thing to Tatum this year.
Just saw the final score. Looks like Tatum and Brown got going after a poor start. I should really be watching more of these playoff games.
I think Brown eventually figured out that rather than trying to get all the way to the rim (where he'd inevitably either run into a brick wall or get stripped trying to get there), simply pulling up from 16 feet and knocking down the mid-range J was ultimately the best shot.
It's a shot Ant is going to have to learn to make on a regular basis if he wants to be among the elite scorers in the game, as teams will increasingly crowd him at the 3-point line and then build a wall in the paint. Often times that 15-18 foot pull up J will be all that's available to him.
