Who should Wolves draft at 19?
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I agree that 19 is a nice spot to be this year as well which is why you'd have to aim for a better pick when a team comes calling. I still don't think a team gives up more than a lotto protected first even if they view the draft the same way so I'd lean to toward staying.
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Here is my updated workout list adding Justin Lewis.
Tari Eason, Jalen Williams, Kennedy Chandler, EJ Liddell, Nikola Jovic, Wendell Moore, Christian Koloko, Marjon Beauchamp, Jaden Hardy, Patrick Baldwin, Christian Braun, Andrew Nembhard, Justin Lewis, Ismael Kamagate, Jean Montero, Gabriele Procida, Julian Champagnie, David Roddy, Bryce McGowans, Max Christie, Keon Ellis, JD Davison, John Butler, Iverson Molinar, Johnny Juzang and a bunch of lesser known names.
Edit: Note, I accidentally deleted part of the original post while updating it.
Tari Eason, Jalen Williams, Kennedy Chandler, EJ Liddell, Nikola Jovic, Wendell Moore, Christian Koloko, Marjon Beauchamp, Jaden Hardy, Patrick Baldwin, Christian Braun, Andrew Nembhard, Justin Lewis, Ismael Kamagate, Jean Montero, Gabriele Procida, Julian Champagnie, David Roddy, Bryce McGowans, Max Christie, Keon Ellis, JD Davison, John Butler, Iverson Molinar, Johnny Juzang and a bunch of lesser known names.
Edit: Note, I accidentally deleted part of the original post while updating it.
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Leonard Miller pulls out of the draft. I think that's a good move for him as he is projected as a late second round pick and he needs a lot of work. For those who liked Leonard Miller, you should take a look at Dom Barlow as he is very similar in his attributes but is a bit more polished and played in the new Overtime Elite developmental league as a teammate of Jean Montero.
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Re: Who should Wolves draft at 19?
KG4Ever wrote:The Wolves are really working out a lot of the guys we are discussing. Here is my updated list adding Justin Lewis:
Tari Eason, Jalen Williams, Kennedy Chandler, EJ Liddell, Nikola Jovic, Wendell Moore, Christian Koloko, Marjon Beauchamp, Jaden Hardy, Patrick Baldwin, Christian Braun, Andrew Nembhard, Justin Lewis, Ismael Kamagate, Jean Montero, Gabriele Procida, Julian Champagnie, David Roddy, Bryce McGowans, Max Christie, Keon Ellis, JD Davidson, John Butler, Iverson Molinar, Johnny Zugang and a bunch of lesser known names.
Good to see that Minnesota got a closer look at Justin Lewis. He fits that hybrid forward role that the Wolves and every other team can never have enough of on their roster. Superb athlete. Long and strong. Improving threat from the perimeter and can really mix it up on the glass. Reminds me of Jeff Green in some ways. Over the past month I've seen him mocked anywhere from 16 to 50. I don't think most people have a great gauge of where exactly a lot of these prospects will fall because so many of them are comparable in value.
Also, I think you meant Johnny Juzang there at the end of your list-- the sweet-shooting, laterally-impaired wing from UCLA. I think he'll end up being either a good second-round or undrafted find for some team. If I'm mistaken, then I'll need to read up on this Johnny Zugang fella.
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Is Beauchamp Josh Okogie or someone with more upside? His profile is interesting to me.
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thedoper wrote:Is Beauchamp Josh Okogie or someone with more upside? His profile is interesting to me.
I like Beauchamp a lot. He's a much better ball-handler than Okogie.
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Yes, I meant Juzang and corrected the spelling now.Camden wrote:KG4Ever wrote:The Wolves are really working out a lot of the guys we are discussing. Here is my updated list adding Justin Lewis:
Tari Eason, Jalen Williams, Kennedy Chandler, EJ Liddell, Nikola Jovic, Wendell Moore, Christian Koloko, Marjon Beauchamp, Jaden Hardy, Patrick Baldwin, Christian Braun, Andrew Nembhard, Justin Lewis, Ismael Kamagate, Jean Montero, Gabriele Procida, Julian Champagnie, David Roddy, Bryce McGowans, Max Christie, Keon Ellis, JD Davidson, John Butler, Iverson Molinar, Johnny Juzang and a bunch of lesser known names.
Good to see that Minnesota got a closer look at Justin Lewis. He fits that hybrid forward role that the Wolves and every other team can never have enough of on their roster. Superb athlete. Long and strong. Improving threat from the perimeter and can really mix it up on the glass. Reminds me of Jeff Green in some ways. Over the past month I've seen him mocked anywhere from 16 to 50. I don't think most people have a great gauge of where exactly a lot of these prospects will fall because so many of them are comparable in value.
Also, I think you meant Johnny Juzang there at the end of your list-- the sweet-shooting, laterally-impaired wing from UCLA. I think he'll end up being either a good second-round or undrafted find for some team. If I'm mistaken, then I'll need to read up on this Johnny Zugang fella.
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Re: Who should Wolves draft at 19?
thedoper wrote:Is Beauchamp Josh Okogie or someone with more upside? His profile is interesting to me.
You're sure to get differing views on MarJon Beauchamp depending on who's giving their take. Some see him as a springy, lengthy wing that can flourish in the open court who possesses strong defensive potential and an improving dribble-drive game. Others, like myself, are entirely put off by his lack of a respectable perimeter shot, inconsistent physicality, and overall lack of discipline on both ends of the court. Like most prospects, there's something to like and dislike about Beauchamp. Personally, I will be quite disappointed if that's who Tim Connelly winds up with at 19.
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Today I watched Tennessee vs Kentucky and Tennessee vs Arizona.
It. Seems like TyTy Washington probably won't fall to the Wolves but I wish he would. He has solid PG/combo guard height and he has the skills to play both guard positions.
Chandler is a nice player and I wouldn't mind if he is the pick but he isn't thrilling. His FT shooting really is inconsistent. He does good things out there and there is potential but he didn't really stand out that much except his shooting in the first game which kept the Vols from losing by 40.
On Arizona Koloko wasn't very impressive. It was probably a bad game from him but he got outplayed by a mile by some dude that's a 7 year senior or whatever that averages 8 points a game. He is tall yay.
I saw some of what makes Lip excited about Dalen Terry. I was actually really impressed with his defense. He might be a little undisciplined at times but he moved really well and I wasn't sure from clips I saw before if that would be the case. His passing is impressive too he makes good plays and the passes were quick and on target. The problem I have is i really don't know what kid of scoring upside he has. He isn't wildly quick with the ball and his shot is a question mark. Basically I'm looking at him as maybe a longer version of Frank'N. To some extent we have a player similar to him on the roster right now in Bolmaro. I'm not saying don't draft him because we have Bolmaro but with questions about his ability to score and maybe break down the defense to playmake for others...I'm not dying to pick him. If he was a freshman I'd probably feel a little differently. I'm not against taking him at #19 but I'm not like that's the guy.
At this point there are some nice players but unless someone drops I don't have a guy that I'm like yes we should grab him because he is some dude with high upside. I may be convinced otherwise AND this is also pick #19. Sure it sucks to pass up on a HR guy but I'd be happy with a solid starter type also. The guy I still like is Wendell Moore Jr (I did actually vote for him) but I know he isn't maybe gonna go that high but I think this draft is gonna be one where women team ranks a guy maybe 10 or more spots higher than another team. I say a team that gets Trevor Keels even early in the 2nd is doing well for themselves. I think there is a pretty good floor for him and the upside is plenty decent.
It. Seems like TyTy Washington probably won't fall to the Wolves but I wish he would. He has solid PG/combo guard height and he has the skills to play both guard positions.
Chandler is a nice player and I wouldn't mind if he is the pick but he isn't thrilling. His FT shooting really is inconsistent. He does good things out there and there is potential but he didn't really stand out that much except his shooting in the first game which kept the Vols from losing by 40.
On Arizona Koloko wasn't very impressive. It was probably a bad game from him but he got outplayed by a mile by some dude that's a 7 year senior or whatever that averages 8 points a game. He is tall yay.
I saw some of what makes Lip excited about Dalen Terry. I was actually really impressed with his defense. He might be a little undisciplined at times but he moved really well and I wasn't sure from clips I saw before if that would be the case. His passing is impressive too he makes good plays and the passes were quick and on target. The problem I have is i really don't know what kid of scoring upside he has. He isn't wildly quick with the ball and his shot is a question mark. Basically I'm looking at him as maybe a longer version of Frank'N. To some extent we have a player similar to him on the roster right now in Bolmaro. I'm not saying don't draft him because we have Bolmaro but with questions about his ability to score and maybe break down the defense to playmake for others...I'm not dying to pick him. If he was a freshman I'd probably feel a little differently. I'm not against taking him at #19 but I'm not like that's the guy.
At this point there are some nice players but unless someone drops I don't have a guy that I'm like yes we should grab him because he is some dude with high upside. I may be convinced otherwise AND this is also pick #19. Sure it sucks to pass up on a HR guy but I'd be happy with a solid starter type also. The guy I still like is Wendell Moore Jr (I did actually vote for him) but I know he isn't maybe gonna go that high but I think this draft is gonna be one where women team ranks a guy maybe 10 or more spots higher than another team. I say a team that gets Trevor Keels even early in the 2nd is doing well for themselves. I think there is a pretty good floor for him and the upside is plenty decent.
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monsterpile wrote:Today I watched Tennessee vs Kentucky and Tennessee vs Arizona.
It. Seems like TyTy Washington probably won't fall to the Wolves but I wish he would. He has solid PG/combo guard height and he has the skills to play both guard positions.
Chandler is a nice player and I wouldn't mind if he is the pick but he isn't thrilling. His FT shooting really is inconsistent. He does good things out there and there is potential but he didn't really stand out that much except his shooting in the first game which kept the Vols from losing by 40.
On Arizona Koloko wasn't very impressive. It was probably a bad game from him but he got outplayed by a mile by some dude that's a 7 year senior or whatever that averages 8 points a game. He is tall yay.
I saw some of what makes Lip excited about Dalen Terry. I was actually really impressed with his defense. He might be a little undisciplined at times but he moved really well and I wasn't sure from clips I saw before if that would be the case. His passing is impressive too he makes good plays and the passes were quick and on target. The problem I have is i really don't know what kid of scoring upside he has. He isn't wildly quick with the ball and his shot is a question mark. Basically I'm looking at him as maybe a longer version of Frank'N. To some extent we have a player similar to him on the roster right now in Bolmaro. I'm not saying don't draft him because we have Bolmaro but with questions about his ability to score and maybe break down the defense to playmake for others...I'm not dying to pick him. If he was a freshman I'd probably feel a little differently. I'm not against taking him at #19 but I'm not like that's the guy.
At this point there are some nice players but unless someone drops I don't have a guy that I'm like yes we should grab him because he is some dude with high upside. I may be convinced otherwise AND this is also pick #19. Sure it sucks to pass up on a HR guy but I'd be happy with a solid starter type also. The guy I still like is Wendell Moore Jr (I did actually vote for him) but I know he isn't maybe gonna go that high but I think this draft is gonna be one where women team ranks a guy maybe 10 or more spots higher than another team. I say a team that gets Trevor Keels even early in the 2nd is doing well for themselves. I think there is a pretty good floor for him and the upside is plenty decent.
I haven't seen any Ty Ty videos yet and didn't see him play in any games. I'm not overly impressed by what I've reach, but I'll have to check out some videos and video reviews of him. Who do you think will pick him before the Wolves are on the clock at #19?
Good observations on Dalen Terry. He's actually terrific on dribble penetration. He's an excellent ball-handler with a blend of quickness, moves and coordination that made him an excellent finisher. But he has no mid-range game and his 3-point shooting, while mechanically sound, hasn't been tested since he's taken so few. I think he has the entire package except mid-range shooting (and perhaps 3-point shooting), but those are the things that can improve a lot after getting to the NBA. By all accounts Terry is a gym rat with a huge passion for the game. That tells me he'll likely improve his shooting a lot while also improving in other areas. The key is that he starts his NBA career with a unique combination that can't be taught or acquired going forward - a 6'10" over head reach paired with PG ball-handling and passing skills together with a high basketball IQ and terrific work ethic. That makes him a high-reward player. But he's not a high-risk prospect either because of his length and defensive ability. He can slot in as a good rotation role player - a role he's actually used to from his time at Arizona.
There are reasons to take Jalen Williams, Wendell Moore or EJ Liddell ahead of Terry. Actually, if your making an totally objective decision based on stats, the three other three would undoubtedly get the nod over Terry. I'm looking beyond the college numbers and making a move subjective judgment in preferring Terry. So I still lean towards Terry even though I consider Williams a close second on my list of those who might be available at 19. If Tari Eason fell to 19, I'd consider him as well. I could easily wake up tomorrow morning and decide I'd rather see the Wolves draft Williams. His offensive game is the best and most developed of the guys I like at 19.
I'm not a big fan of Chandler. It's so rough to be a really good PG in the NBA at his size. If you watch a bunch of Dalen Terry video, you'll see Terry using his length and lateral quickness to dominate Chandler defensively, That's the sort of length and lateral quickness Chandler will face regularly in the NBA and I don't see him having that extra special athleticism or genius-level basketball IQ to be more than a role player off the bench in the NBA. But admittedly, I haven't see much of Chandler.