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mjs34
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Next years draft is supposed to be loaded with bigs. Why trade away Bennett or a first to get 35 wins, when we will likely be around 25-30 without him, and get a better pick next season.
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bleedspeed177 wrote:I think this board overrates Dieng. Solid rotation player. Not a game changer.


Describe him how you would like, but I'll take a young big that averaged 13 rebounds, 2+ blocks, 1+ steals, and 2 assists per 36 minutes of play last season as a rookie. He's only going to get better defensively and his feel for the game will improve as well. I'm not sure he'll ever be a great offensive player, but he certainly isn't a bad one either.
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Why not trade for Young, and then draft our PF next year anyway? Yep, that's still an option.
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First, our pick gets worse with Thad on the team so the good PF's might be off the board by the time we pick. Second there's no guarantee any of the PF's next year are going to be any better of prospects than Bennett. Third, I'd rather have Bennett going into his 3rd year in the league if Thad leaves than having to rely on a rookie to start. Getting Thad is going to lower the quality of rookie we can get behind him next year. Keep in mind that the more young assets we have, the bigger splash we can make on the trade market for quality veterans. Who knows who that is at this point, but it's the very reason half the stars have ended up where they are in this league.
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khans2k5 wrote:First, our pick gets worse with Thad on the team so the good PF's might be off the board by the time we pick. Second there's no guarantee any of the PF's next year are going to be any better of prospects than Bennett. Third, I'd rather have Bennett going into his 3rd year in the league if Thad leaves than having to rely on a rookie to start. Getting Thad is going to lower the quality of rookie we can get behind him next year. Keep in mind that the more young assets we have, the bigger splash we can make on the trade market for quality veterans. Who knows who that is at this point, but it's the very reason half the stars have ended up where they are in this league.


Chances are the lottery's going to screw us over like it usually does. I wouldn't make moves with ping pong balls in mind anyway, to be honest. I'd try to make moves that make the team better while making sense for the future because that much I can control.

I disagree completely. I see about five PF prospects that are already much better prospects than Bennett and several others that might rise to the same level. If you're going to guarantee the possibility no PF prospects will be better than Bennett, I'll guarantee that that the lottery is an unknown and adding Young might not even make a difference in the order. Or I'll guarantee that Bennett will never be as good as Young is right now.

So, we're going to need to have young assets so we can trade for quality veterans... Excuse me, but Thad Young is a quality veteran and we'd be getting him for a guy I'm not high on at all. That's a win in my book. Clearly we disagree here, though. I keep forgetting how much potential Bennett has on this forum.

Even without Bennett, we're going to be set up with plenty of young prospects and assets: Wiggins, LaVine, Dieng, Dubljevi?, Robinson III, Muhammad, 2015 MIN 1st and 2015 MIA 1st.
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Cam, I would probably be on board if we had Thad for two or three years. I am just tired of watching us having to overpay a guy to keep him here when he isn't a difference maker, particularly when we traded away an asset to get him. This looks like the Bud deal all over again.
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I've got a brillant idea. How about we start Dieng and Young together, then bring Pek off the bench against opposition second units and just feed him down low every possession. 6th man off the year right there folks!

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Or we could let Pek feast on opposing starting centers, which should allow Dieng to outplay the opponent's bench bigs. :idea:
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I think, that unless we want to be terrible and tank actively we should trade Bennett if we have a chance to do so, i cant think of a player who would look this terribly in his first year, who would become legit starter in the league. Which is what Thad Young definitely is. I also believe that with so high probability of Bennett being complete bust, it is more likely that even in 2 years (when we should extend/trade either of them) from now Thad will have higher value than Bennett. Also Bennett being first pick makes him really expensive, i mean Thad is at 8.8mil as a proven starter and Bennett is at 5.3mil scaling up. If you need to unload such a high paid bust you usually have to add first rounder (aka Wes and DW).

For me Bennett is DW version 2.0, i dont want this kind of project again. My only problem with Young is that i just dont see him fitting next to PEK, but i dont know what plans Flip has prepared, so ..
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I look at Bennett's splits and know that he was injured coming into the season and think he had his worst season last year.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/2991473/anthony-bennett

Look at his post all-star game numbers.

5.7- pts
3.6 boards
47.3% shooting
13.6 Minutes a game
5.0 shots
0.5 assists
0.3 steals
0.1 blocks
0.9 TO

project Thad to that amount of time.
6.9 - pts
2.3 boards
45.4% shooting
6.3 shoots
0.8 assists
0.8 steals
0.1 blocks
0.8 TO

I think Bennett will be every bit as good as Young in time. I would love to see what he can do with 20-25 minutes a night for us next year. It doesn't hurt that Wiggins is his national teamate. Man I would consider trying to trade for Nash just to have him around Rubio/Wiggins/Bennett.
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