Malik Beasley arrested

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

I don't care about the weed, but it sounds like he pulled a gun on somebody, which is really serious.

There are a lot of details we don't know. How many guns did they find? What kind?

If there were a bunch of people at his house with weed and guns, it does also raise real questions about his judgement. Has he been participating in the workouts with the rest of the team? What kind of a reflection is it on his focus if this is how he's spending his time?

Seriously, America, WTF with the guns? I grew up in MN in a hunting family and we had guns. It was part of our family culture. I still remember the 30-30 my grandpa gave me when I first started deer hunting, and I remember my first deer. I get the allure of that. And sure, in places like Alaska, I get that you want something if you're going to be in bear country or something. But with just a few exceptions, allowing guns is just not worth the trouble, especially when it comes to handguns, semi-automatic rifles, etc.

I think this is a totally underreported part of the police killings everybody's been talking about. The racial bias is real--stats show black people are 2-3 times more likely to be killed than whites--but I can sympathize with cops in America being on edge because they could at any point be walking into a deadly scenario because of all the guns. I'm guessing that's a big part about why cops are so quick to use force. Their work must constantly be incredibly stressful because of all the guns. They live on edge because it is a little like they're living in a war zone.

Here's a stat for you. Cops kill about 1,000 Americans every year. I've lived in Germany for the last 6 years. Do you know how many people cops shot and killed last year? 14. And that tied for the highest in 20 years here. Many years it's single digits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_Germany

Germany's got about 80 million people, so it's about a quarter of the population, but quadruple 14 to 56 and you're still nowhere near 1,000. And this doesn't even touch on the disparity in gun violence by non-police. Most of this is suicide, which is underreported. But the numbers are still crazy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

Seriously, just read any random paragraph from that wikipedia page and it should make your stomach drop. Here's one:

"Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related homicide rate is 25 times higher. Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, among those 22 nations studied, the U.S. had 82 percent of gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns."

Any guesses why Germany doesn't look anything like the U.S. in this regard? I'm sure a big reason is basically nobody has guns here because they're not allowed to. A few people in rural areas can get licenses for hunting rifles as there is some very regulated hunting allowed. Some others have guns for target practice at shooting clubs or for biathalon practice, but they are basically .22s with pellet bullets. Bolt action. Single shot. Glorified BB guns basically. But basically anything else is forbidden, especially handguns.

And is life that much worse without them?

Not at all. Life's pretty great. Germans basically do all the other leisurely things Americans do, so they don't miss guns there. And nobody really feels like they're missing out on a sense of security by owning a handgun because they also know nobody has one. Cops almost never fear for their lives in confrontations with people, I never even think about the possibility of anybody else having a gun here, I don't think I've ever heard of a mass shooting here, and I'm sure most interactions people have with the police are likewise much less stressful.

It's too easy to just say, "Look how great Germany is compared to the U.S. on guns!" without going into each country's respective histories.

The right to bear arms is embedded in the U.S. Constitution and therefore has been a founding pillar of the country. While one could argue times have changed drastically since the founding of the country, it's not easy to just legislate this stuff away. There are strong interest groups AND plenty of regular citizens who will fight change tooth and nail, whether you agree with them or not. Would this same culture exist if the Second Amendment was never part of the Constitution? Probably not. But perhaps the U.S. wouldn't exist either.

Guess who doesn't have this right in their version of the constitution? Germany. Don't you think that just might influence the culture and evolution of gun violence in each respective country.

Oh, and don't forget that Germany had a major chance to hit the re-set button in the late 40s and into the 50s to rebuild their country and their laws, thanks in no small part to the Marshall Plan, which was largely funded by the U.S.

[Monster]

My one question is: What if he was protecting his property with a gun?

[Wolvesfan21]

I don't care about the weed, but it sounds like he pulled a gun on somebody, which is really serious.

There are a lot of details we don't know. How many guns did they find? What kind?

If there were a bunch of people at his house with weed and guns, it does also raise real questions about his judgement. Has he been participating in the workouts with the rest of the team? What kind of a reflection is it on his focus if this is how he's spending his time?

Seriously, America, WTF with the guns? I grew up in MN in a hunting family and we had guns. It was part of our family culture. I still remember the 30-30 my grandpa gave me when I first started deer hunting, and I remember my first deer. I get the allure of that. And sure, in places like Alaska, I get that you want something if you're going to be in bear country or something. But with just a few exceptions, allowing guns is just not worth the trouble, especially when it comes to handguns, semi-automatic rifles, etc.

I think this is a totally underreported part of the police killings everybody's been talking about. The racial bias is real--stats show black people are 2-3 times more likely to be killed than whites--but I can sympathize with cops in America being on edge because they could at any point be walking into a deadly scenario because of all the guns. I'm guessing that's a big part about why cops are so quick to use force. Their work must constantly be incredibly stressful because of all the guns. They live on edge because it is a little like they're living in a war zone.

Here's a stat for you. Cops kill about 1,000 Americans every year. I've lived in Germany for the last 6 years. Do you know how many people cops shot and killed last year? 14. And that tied for the highest in 20 years here. Many years it's single digits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_Germany

Germany's got about 80 million people, so it's about a quarter of the population, but quadruple 14 to 56 and you're still nowhere near 1,000. And this doesn't even touch on the disparity in gun violence by non-police. Most of this is suicide, which is underreported. But the numbers are still crazy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

Seriously, just read any random paragraph from that wikipedia page and it should make your stomach drop. Here's one:

"Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related homicide rate is 25 times higher. Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, among those 22 nations studied, the U.S. had 82 percent of gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns."

Any guesses why Germany doesn't look anything like the U.S. in this regard? I'm sure a big reason is basically nobody has guns here because they're not allowed to. A few people in rural areas can get licenses for hunting rifles as there is some very regulated hunting allowed. Some others have guns for target practice at shooting clubs or for biathalon practice, but they are basically .22s with pellet bullets. Bolt action. Single shot. Glorified BB guns basically. But basically anything else is forbidden, especially handguns.

And is life that much worse without them?

Not at all. Life's pretty great. Germans basically do all the other leisurely things Americans do, so they don't miss guns there. And nobody really feels like they're missing out on a sense of security by owning a handgun because they also know nobody has one. Cops almost never fear for their lives in confrontations with people, I never even think about the possibility of anybody else having a gun here, I don't think I've ever heard of a mass shooting here, and I'm sure most interactions people have with the police are likewise much less stressful.

It's too easy to just say, "Look how great Germany is compared to the U.S. on guns!" without going into each country's respective histories.

The right to bear arms is embedded in the U.S. Constitution and therefore has been a founding pillar of the country. While one could argue times have changed drastically since the founding of the country, it's not easy to just legislate this stuff away. There are strong interest groups AND plenty of regular citizens who will fight change tooth and nail, whether you agree with them or not. Would this same culture exist if the Second Amendment was never part of the Constitution? Probably not. But perhaps the U.S. wouldn't exist either.

Guess who doesn't have this right in their version of the constitution? Germany. Don't you think that just might influence the culture and evolution of gun violence in each respective country.

Oh, and don't forget that Germany had a major chance to hit the re-set button in the late 40s and into the 50s to rebuild their country and their laws, thanks in no small part to the Marshall Plan, which was largely funded by the U.S.

Hitler banned gun ownership during his reign to fully enslave the population. The US/allies won WW2 and has been controlling Germans GOV ever since. That is why Germany doesn't have guns, because the US GOV says you can't.

[Q12543 [enjin:6621299]]

I don't care about the weed, but it sounds like he pulled a gun on somebody, which is really serious.

There are a lot of details we don't know. How many guns did they find? What kind?

If there were a bunch of people at his house with weed and guns, it does also raise real questions about his judgement. Has he been participating in the workouts with the rest of the team? What kind of a reflection is it on his focus if this is how he's spending his time?

Seriously, America, WTF with the guns? I grew up in MN in a hunting family and we had guns. It was part of our family culture. I still remember the 30-30 my grandpa gave me when I first started deer hunting, and I remember my first deer. I get the allure of that. And sure, in places like Alaska, I get that you want something if you're going to be in bear country or something. But with just a few exceptions, allowing guns is just not worth the trouble, especially when it comes to handguns, semi-automatic rifles, etc.

I think this is a totally underreported part of the police killings everybody's been talking about. The racial bias is real--stats show black people are 2-3 times more likely to be killed than whites--but I can sympathize with cops in America being on edge because they could at any point be walking into a deadly scenario because of all the guns. I'm guessing that's a big part about why cops are so quick to use force. Their work must constantly be incredibly stressful because of all the guns. They live on edge because it is a little like they're living in a war zone.

Here's a stat for you. Cops kill about 1,000 Americans every year. I've lived in Germany for the last 6 years. Do you know how many people cops shot and killed last year? 14. And that tied for the highest in 20 years here. Many years it's single digits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_Germany

Germany's got about 80 million people, so it's about a quarter of the population, but quadruple 14 to 56 and you're still nowhere near 1,000. And this doesn't even touch on the disparity in gun violence by non-police. Most of this is suicide, which is underreported. But the numbers are still crazy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

Seriously, just read any random paragraph from that wikipedia page and it should make your stomach drop. Here's one:

"Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related homicide rate is 25 times higher. Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, among those 22 nations studied, the U.S. had 82 percent of gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns."

Any guesses why Germany doesn't look anything like the U.S. in this regard? I'm sure a big reason is basically nobody has guns here because they're not allowed to. A few people in rural areas can get licenses for hunting rifles as there is some very regulated hunting allowed. Some others have guns for target practice at shooting clubs or for biathalon practice, but they are basically .22s with pellet bullets. Bolt action. Single shot. Glorified BB guns basically. But basically anything else is forbidden, especially handguns.

And is life that much worse without them?

Not at all. Life's pretty great. Germans basically do all the other leisurely things Americans do, so they don't miss guns there. And nobody really feels like they're missing out on a sense of security by owning a handgun because they also know nobody has one. Cops almost never fear for their lives in confrontations with people, I never even think about the possibility of anybody else having a gun here, I don't think I've ever heard of a mass shooting here, and I'm sure most interactions people have with the police are likewise much less stressful.

It's too easy to just say, "Look how great Germany is compared to the U.S. on guns!" without going into each country's respective histories.

The right to bear arms is embedded in the U.S. Constitution and therefore has been a founding pillar of the country. While one could argue times have changed drastically since the founding of the country, it's not easy to just legislate this stuff away. There are strong interest groups AND plenty of regular citizens who will fight change tooth and nail, whether you agree with them or not. Would this same culture exist if the Second Amendment was never part of the Constitution? Probably not. But perhaps the U.S. wouldn't exist either.

Guess who doesn't have this right in their version of the constitution? Germany. Don't you think that just might influence the culture and evolution of gun violence in each respective country.

Oh, and don't forget that Germany had a major chance to hit the re-set button in the late 40s and into the 50s to rebuild their country and their laws, thanks in no small part to the Marshall Plan, which was largely funded by the U.S.

Hitler banned gun ownership during his reign to fully enslave the population. The US/allies won WW2 and has been controlling Germans GOV ever since. That is why Germany doesn't have guns, because the US GOV says you can't.

With all due respect, I have no plans to indulge further your paranoia about how the U.S. Government "controls" everything and everybody for nefarious purposes. While no doubt corruption and bad actors exist in every large institution, including the U.S. government, your extreme views are beyond the pale.

Happy to keep interacting on your Wolves takes though!

[Wolvesfan21]

I don't care about the weed, but it sounds like he pulled a gun on somebody, which is really serious.

There are a lot of details we don't know. How many guns did they find? What kind?

If there were a bunch of people at his house with weed and guns, it does also raise real questions about his judgement. Has he been participating in the workouts with the rest of the team? What kind of a reflection is it on his focus if this is how he's spending his time?

Seriously, America, WTF with the guns? I grew up in MN in a hunting family and we had guns. It was part of our family culture. I still remember the 30-30 my grandpa gave me when I first started deer hunting, and I remember my first deer. I get the allure of that. And sure, in places like Alaska, I get that you want something if you're going to be in bear country or something. But with just a few exceptions, allowing guns is just not worth the trouble, especially when it comes to handguns, semi-automatic rifles, etc.

I think this is a totally underreported part of the police killings everybody's been talking about. The racial bias is real--stats show black people are 2-3 times more likely to be killed than whites--but I can sympathize with cops in America being on edge because they could at any point be walking into a deadly scenario because of all the guns. I'm guessing that's a big part about why cops are so quick to use force. Their work must constantly be incredibly stressful because of all the guns. They live on edge because it is a little like they're living in a war zone.

Here's a stat for you. Cops kill about 1,000 Americans every year. I've lived in Germany for the last 6 years. Do you know how many people cops shot and killed last year? 14. And that tied for the highest in 20 years here. Many years it's single digits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_Germany

Germany's got about 80 million people, so it's about a quarter of the population, but quadruple 14 to 56 and you're still nowhere near 1,000. And this doesn't even touch on the disparity in gun violence by non-police. Most of this is suicide, which is underreported. But the numbers are still crazy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

Seriously, just read any random paragraph from that wikipedia page and it should make your stomach drop. Here's one:

"Compared to 22 other high-income nations, the U.S. gun-related homicide rate is 25 times higher. Although it has half the population of the other 22 nations combined, among those 22 nations studied, the U.S. had 82 percent of gun deaths, 90 percent of all women killed with guns, 91 percent of children under 14 and 92 percent of young people between ages 15 and 24 killed with guns."

Any guesses why Germany doesn't look anything like the U.S. in this regard? I'm sure a big reason is basically nobody has guns here because they're not allowed to. A few people in rural areas can get licenses for hunting rifles as there is some very regulated hunting allowed. Some others have guns for target practice at shooting clubs or for biathalon practice, but they are basically .22s with pellet bullets. Bolt action. Single shot. Glorified BB guns basically. But basically anything else is forbidden, especially handguns.

And is life that much worse without them?

Not at all. Life's pretty great. Germans basically do all the other leisurely things Americans do, so they don't miss guns there. And nobody really feels like they're missing out on a sense of security by owning a handgun because they also know nobody has one. Cops almost never fear for their lives in confrontations with people, I never even think about the possibility of anybody else having a gun here, I don't think I've ever heard of a mass shooting here, and I'm sure most interactions people have with the police are likewise much less stressful.

It's too easy to just say, "Look how great Germany is compared to the U.S. on guns!" without going into each country's respective histories.

The right to bear arms is embedded in the U.S. Constitution and therefore has been a founding pillar of the country. While one could argue times have changed drastically since the founding of the country, it's not easy to just legislate this stuff away. There are strong interest groups AND plenty of regular citizens who will fight change tooth and nail, whether you agree with them or not. Would this same culture exist if the Second Amendment was never part of the Constitution? Probably not. But perhaps the U.S. wouldn't exist either.

Guess who doesn't have this right in their version of the constitution? Germany. Don't you think that just might influence the culture and evolution of gun violence in each respective country.

Oh, and don't forget that Germany had a major chance to hit the re-set button in the late 40s and into the 50s to rebuild their country and their laws, thanks in no small part to the Marshall Plan, which was largely funded by the U.S.

Hitler banned gun ownership during his reign to fully enslave the population. The US/allies won WW2 and has been controlling Germans GOV ever since. That is why Germany doesn't have guns, because the US GOV says you can't.

With all due respect, I have no plans to indulge further your paranoia about how the U.S. Government "controls" everything and everybody for nefarious purposes. While no doubt corruption and bad actors exist in every large institution, including the U.S. government, your extreme views are beyond the pale.

Happy to keep interacting on your Wolves takes though!

You just have to look at which Countries the US Military has a very large presence. Germany, Japan, South Korea and Afghanistan. These are essentially US territories in a simplistic view. However, "we" as taxpayers get stuck paying for the military expansion or "US empire". The news isn't going to tell you they mostly control these GOV's. Just like I am sure during the British Empires supremacy or reign they didn't say, hey guess what we control all these countries. Many of which are still are in ways.

I read that Britain as a deal for the US to enter the War in Europe was given Palestine from Britain. Now of course it has slowly turned into a US controlled state. The US gives Israel several billion a year.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

Hahahaha

[Wolvesfan21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Operation Northwoods was a proposed false flag operation against the Cuban government that originated within the U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) of the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other U.S. government operatives to both stage and actually commit acts of terrorism against American military and civilian targets,[2] blaming them on the Cuban government, and using it to justify a war against Cuba. The possibilities detailed in the document included the possible assassination of Cuban immigrants, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas,[2] hijacking planes to be shot down or given the appearance of being shot down,[2] blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.[3] The proposals were rejected by President John F. Kennedy.[4][5][6]

Fidel Castro had taken power in Cuba in 1959 and began allowing communists into the new Cuban government, nationalizing US businesses and improving relations with the Soviet Union, arousing the concern of the U.S. military due to the Cold War. The operation proposed creating public support for a war against Cuba by blaming it for terrorist acts that would actually be perpetrated by the U.S. Government.[1] To this end, Operation Northwoods proposals recommended hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:

The desired result from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.

Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The operation recommended developing a "Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".

Sounds almost like 9/11? Because 9/11 was done by the US GOV too. Likely help from Mossad and the Israeli Military. Just like the Gulf of Tonkin incident. The people calling the shots are egomaniacal psychopaths and power hungry greedy bastards.

The only reason the US GOV didn't go to war with Cuba was because JFK rejected it. He of course later got killed by some "dude who worked in a bookstore." Yeah right. At least everyone knows JFK wasn't what we were told right? I know a gallup poll said 90% didn't believe the MSM story. I don't think 90% know 9/11 was an inside job. Maybe 30-40% probably.

[Wolvesfan21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

Operation Mockingbird is an alleged large-scale program of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that began in the early years of the Cold War and attempted to manipulate news media for propaganda purposes. It funded student and cultural organizations and magazines as front organizations.[1]

According to author Deborah Davis, Operation Mockingbird recruited leading American journalists into a propaganda network and influenced the operations of front groups. CIA support of front groups was exposed when a 1967 Ramparts magazine article reported that the National Student Association received funding from the CIA. In 1975, Church Committee Congressional investigations revealed Agency connections with journalists and civic groups. None of the reports, however, mentions by name an Operation Mockingbird coordinating or supporting these activities.

For U.S.-based media, the report states:

Approximately 50 of the [Agency] CIA assets are individual American journalists or employees of U.S. media organizations. Of these, fewer than half are "accredited" by U.S. media organizations ... The remaining individuals are non-accredited freelance contributors and media representatives abroad ... More than a dozen United States news organizations and commercial publishing houses formerly provided cover for CIA agents abroad. A few of these organizations were unaware that they provided this cover.[9]

CIA response[edit]
Prior to the release of the Church report, the CIA had already begun restricting its use of journalists. According to the report, former CIA director William Colby informed the committee that in 1973 he had issued instructions that "As a general policy, the Agency will not make any clandestine use of staff employees of U.S. publications which have a substantial impact or influence on public opinion."[10]

In February 1976, Director George H. W. Bush announced an even more restrictive policy: "effective immediately, CIA will not enter into any paid or contractual relationship with any full-time or part-time news correspondent accredited by any U.S. news service, newspaper, periodical, radio or television network or station."[11]

By the time the Church Committee Report was completed, all CIA contacts with accredited journalists had been dropped. The Committee noted, however, that "accredited correspondent" meant the ban was limited to individuals "formally authorized by contract or issuance of press credentials to represent themselves as correspondents" and that non-contract workers who did not receive press credentials, such as stringers or freelancers, were not included.

Bolded text, LOL.

In 1981 CIA Director William Casey said "We will know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American people believe is false."

Yes, the CIA still is fully infiltrated in the major "news" networks. Nothing reported should be considered anything more then propaganda.

[TAFKASP]

Damn, and I lost my tinfoil hat months ago, now what?

[Wolvesfan21]

Damn, and I lost my tinfoil hat months ago, now what?

Those are declassified documents. No tinfoil needed. ;D