SAS v MIN ii

[davemang]

Ant getting some more work in after a 38 minute, 34 point night:
https://twitter.com/WolvesRadio/status/1585466236011511808?s=20&t=s0wTbfH7St_XxWhn5Gh_vQ

[kekgeek]

Nowell is pricing himself off our team. Going to be tough to see him go. Instant offense and a candidate for 6th man of the year. Wonder how many teams would give him a good chunk of their cap space.

When it comew down to the trade deadline, what would Nowell and Reid fetch on the trade market? No sense in letting them walk for nothing.

Good question, Phenom. I don't have a good sense of that. I think the Wolves front office will need to seriously consider trading some or all of the following at the deadline: DLO, Naz Reid and/or Nowell. If there's any chance of re-signing Nowell it will only happen in DLO goes because the Wolves definitely aren't going to pay both if Nowell ends up commanding anything remotely close to Herro type money. For the same money, I'd take Nowell over DLO.

Really interesting question by Phenom that I have not considered. I love what Nowell is showing us in the first five games and I think his ceiling is quite high...he's a flat out pure scorer. But I just don't see the Wolves willing to pay him what he wants after this season if he keeps playing like this, so there is a huge risk of getting nothing for him if he walks. Perhaps getting a first round pick for him might be a prudent course of action. It's going to be a difficult decision if he continues to play like a 6th man of the year candidate and we're sitting high in the standings by the trade deadline, but management is at least going to have to consider what the best move is with Nowell. I wouldn't want to be TC having to make this decision.

But who is going to give up a first round pick to be in the same situation we find ourselves in now? You might say a playoff team will. Well, that's us too! We really need his scoring off the bench.

It's a tough situation because I really saw him as helping to fill the scoring/shot creation void in the event DLO is no longer here after this season. That's not to say he'd be our starting PG, but we know he and Ant can co-exist and gives us a couple of elite shot creation options on the perimeter in crunch time.

I really wish they would have extended Nowell prior to this season. But it also seems like he knows his value and upside and is willing to bet on himself.

Who is the better player going forward, Nowell or DLO? We certainly will not keep both, but could keep one.

Nowell is the better scorer and shooter. DLO a better passer. Both are sieves on defense though. Not sure who is worse.

Based on all reports the wolves tried to extend him this offseason but because he was a second round pick the wolves could only extend him so much. Now once he hits free agency he will be able to get more money from the wolves but the wolves have no protection in keeping Nowell

[kekgeek]

Nowell is pricing himself off our team. Going to be tough to see him go. Instant offense and a candidate for 6th man of the year. Wonder how many teams would give him a good chunk of their cap space.

When it comew down to the trade deadline, what would Nowell and Reid fetch on the trade market? No sense in letting them walk for nothing.

Good question, Phenom. I don't have a good sense of that. I think the Wolves front office will need to seriously consider trading some or all of the following at the deadline: DLO, Naz Reid and/or Nowell. If there's any chance of re-signing Nowell it will only happen in DLO goes because the Wolves definitely aren't going to pay both if Nowell ends up commanding anything remotely close to Herro type money. For the same money, I'd take Nowell over DLO.

Really interesting question by Phenom that I have not considered. I love what Nowell is showing us in the first five games and I think his ceiling is quite high...he's a flat out pure scorer. But I just don't see the Wolves willing to pay him what he wants after this season if he keeps playing like this, so there is a huge risk of getting nothing for him if he walks. Perhaps getting a first round pick for him might be a prudent course of action. It's going to be a difficult decision if he continues to play like a 6th man of the year candidate and we're sitting high in the standings by the trade deadline, but management is at least going to have to consider what the best move is with Nowell. I wouldn't want to be TC having to make this decision.

But who is going to give up a first round pick to be in the same situation we find ourselves in now? You might say a playoff team will. Well, that's us too! We really need his scoring off the bench.

It's a tough situation because I really saw him as helping to fill the scoring/shot creation void in the event DLO is no longer here after this season. That's not to say he'd be our starting PG, but we know he and Ant can co-exist and gives us a couple of elite shot creation options on the perimeter in crunch time.

I really wish they would have extended Nowell prior to this season. But it also seems like he knows his value and upside and is willing to bet on himself.

Who is the better player going forward, Nowell or DLO? We certainly will not keep both, but could keep one.

Nowell is the better scorer and shooter. DLO a better passer. Both are sieves on defense though. Not sure who is worse.

I think you have perfectly framed the issue TC has in front of him. He's not likely moving on from Rudy and KAT, and he knows he will likely have to pay Jaden and Ant...Ant with a max. And ownership probably doesn't want to be in luxury tax hell. Plus, he needs some room for important role players like Prince and Anderson. So I see no chance of keeping both DLo and Nowell, but keeping one could happen.

So the questions are this: Who is more valuable as a piece going forward? And who might be more likely to bring back a pick or two (bringing back matching contracts for DLo doesn't help us from a cap standpoint). Having a max player just leave without getting anything in return is not an attractive thought, but right now I think it might be the best option if they can't move him at the deadline. Give the PG reins to JMac, and hope that a nice contract might interest Nowell if we tell him we're committed to him as a big minutes 6th man. In any event, the decisions are not going to be easy.

I will say though the cap will go up a ton in 2 years so wolves might be more willing to go in the lux tax to keep the core together because the cap is going way up and those contracts won't look bad in a couple of years.

It is an interesting question though. I think Nowell is significantly worse than Dlo on defense (Dlo is a good off ball defender, and terrible on ball but Nowell is terrible at both). Nowell is more instant offense, Dlo is a better playmaker (Nowell isn't bad at it).

It's an interesting debate, I will say I think Dlo and Nowell have been more than passable for their role this year

[kekgeek]

One last thing. Think Kat has been frustrating this year but his passing has been fantastic

[Carlos Danger]

Ant getting some more work in after a 38 minute, 34 point night:
https://twitter.com/WolvesRadio/status/1585466236011511808?s=20&t=s0wTbfH7St_XxWhn5Gh_vQ

Thanks for posting. It's a start. But one thing most of us learn as we go through life....you can't out run your fork.

[Lipoli390]

Nowell is pricing himself off our team. Going to be tough to see him go. Instant offense and a candidate for 6th man of the year. Wonder how many teams would give him a good chunk of their cap space.

When it comew down to the trade deadline, what would Nowell and Reid fetch on the trade market? No sense in letting them walk for nothing.

Good question, Phenom. I don't have a good sense of that. I think the Wolves front office will need to seriously consider trading some or all of the following at the deadline: DLO, Naz Reid and/or Nowell. If there's any chance of re-signing Nowell it will only happen in DLO goes because the Wolves definitely aren't going to pay both if Nowell ends up commanding anything remotely close to Herro type money. For the same money, I'd take Nowell over DLO.

Really interesting question by Phenom that I have not considered. I love what Nowell is showing us in the first five games and I think his ceiling is quite high...he's a flat out pure scorer. But I just don't see the Wolves willing to pay him what he wants after this season if he keeps playing like this, so there is a huge risk of getting nothing for him if he walks. Perhaps getting a first round pick for him might be a prudent course of action. It's going to be a difficult decision if he continues to play like a 6th man of the year candidate and we're sitting high in the standings by the trade deadline, but management is at least going to have to consider what the best move is with Nowell. I wouldn't want to be TC having to make this decision.

But who is going to give up a first round pick to be in the same situation we find ourselves in now? You might say a playoff team will. Well, that's us too! We really need his scoring off the bench.

It's a tough situation because I really saw him as helping to fill the scoring/shot creation void in the event DLO is no longer here after this season. That's not to say he'd be our starting PG, but we know he and Ant can co-exist and gives us a couple of elite shot creation options on the perimeter in crunch time.

I really wish they would have extended Nowell prior to this season. But it also seems like he knows his value and upside and is willing to bet on himself.

Who is the better player going forward, Nowell or DLO? We certainly will not keep both, but could keep one.

Nowell is the better scorer and shooter. DLO a better passer. Both are sieves on defense though. Not sure who is worse.

I think you have perfectly framed the issue TC has in front of him. He's not likely moving on from Rudy and KAT, and he knows he will likely have to pay Jaden and Ant...Ant with a max. And ownership probably doesn't want to be in luxury tax hell. Plus, he needs some room for important role players like Prince and Anderson. So I see no chance of keeping both DLo and Nowell, but keeping one could happen.

So the questions are this: Who is more valuable as a piece going forward? And who might be more likely to bring back a pick or two (bringing back matching contracts for DLo doesn't help us from a cap standpoint). Having a max player just leave without getting anything in return is not an attractive thought, but right now I think it might be the best option if they can't move him at the deadline. Give the PG reins to JMac, and hope that a nice contract might interest Nowell if we tell him we're committed to him as a big minutes 6th man. In any event, the decisions are not going to be easy.

I will say though the cap will go up a ton in 2 years so wolves might be more willing to go in the lux tax to keep the core together because the cap is going way up and those contracts won't look bad in a couple of years.

It is an interesting question though. I think Nowell is significantly worse than Dlo on defense (Dlo is a good off ball defender, and terrible on ball but Nowell is terrible at both). Nowell is more instant offense, Dlo is a better playmaker (Nowell isn't bad at it).

It's an interesting debate, I will say I think Dlo and Nowell have been more than passable for their role this year

I don't think Nowell is worse defensively than DLO. They both have trouble keeping guys in front of of them, but I think Nowell is quicker and more athletic, which gives him the potential to be better than DLO defensively. I'd take Nowell over DLO for the same money. Nowell is 3.5 years younger than DLO and still has untapped upside. He's more athletic than DLO and does a better job of taking care of the ball. He also plays faster than DLO. Finally, DLO has a history of missing a lot of games with injuries. That likely won't get better as DLO turns 27.

Even with the increase in the salary cap, the Wolves will be paying the luxury tax if they sign both DLO and Nowell to the contracts each is likely to command in the market. But then again, it's hard to know how much those two will command in the market.

[Q-is-here]

Hard to disagree Lip on Nowell being prioritized over DLO based on your logic and even for sentimental reasons. How often has this franchise taken a 2nd rounder and methodically developed him into a really good player? It's been so rare. And now we might lose him to UFA??? Grrrrrrrr.

[Coolbreeze44]

I'm guessing Nowell wants to be a starter, and that might be a reason he doesn't want to negotiate with the Wolves right now. The Wolves really should have locked him up. You have to know your roster and who might take off. Now to keep him we will need to pay the piper, and it won't matter if he's set on leaving.

[kekgeek]

I'm guessing Nowell wants to be a starter, and that might be a reason he doesn't want to negotiate with the Wolves right now. The Wolves really should have locked him up. You have to know your roster and who might take off. Now to keep him we will need to pay the piper, and it won't matter if he's set on leaving.

Once again the Wolves can only offer a 4/~58 million extension right now.

Why would Nowell accept that even he could possibly get 80-120 million in free agency. Let's stop blaming the wolves for not getting an extension done with Nowell. It would be dumb for Nowell to accept an extension with the wolves. Now or before the season

[Lipoli390]

One last thing. Think Kat has been frustrating this year but his passing has been fantastic

Good point, kek. And KAT's shooting struggles won't last long; he's too good a shooter for his current issues to continue. Finch was really aggressive in his defense of KAT. He said KAT is an all-NBA player and no other all-NBA player has been asked to play an entirely different position. I'll add that it's not just a different position KAT has to play; it's also an entirely different style of play and a very different role for KAT on both ends.