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monsterpile wrote:
Volans19 wrote:So anyways Beasley's wife is filing for divorce.

https://ahnfiredigital.com/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/malik-beasleys-wife-files-for-divorce-after-larsa-pippen-dating-controversy/

It's truly sad for his son that he was born into this kind of dysfunction. Beasley's life is total chaos right now


I'd say Beasley's career is going pretty well is not total chaos.

I don't exactly have a ton to go off of but it doesn't seem like Beasley's relationship with his wife was going well before he was hanging out with another woman. This isn't shocking to me at all.

Beasley has been accused of more than infidelity etc but until a few years ago a lot of stuff about athletes was simply not known or people didn't really care. I'm not saying stuff doesn't matter because ultimately it does but is good to consider some context. It's also worth considering people that are in the spotlight that haven't really made any missteps probably should be given some sort of credit for that as well. There are also legit redemption stories. There are also the Darren Sharper situations that NOBODY seemed to see coming.

And yes hopefully the kid turns out ok.


Beasley's wife came to every home game last season. She sat just across the isle from us. She was high energy and always smiling. And of course, she's incredibly gorgeous. She seemed to adore Malik. She would stand up and yell whenever he'd score. She blew kisses at him a couple times. Some I know in the organization said the Wolves front office spend a lot of effort wining and dining his wife as part of their strategy to encourage Beasley to re-sign. It's impossible to know what was going on behind the scenes, but they sure seemed like a happy couple. The Pippen thing is just plain weird. I don't know what to make of Malik.
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lipoli390 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
Volans19 wrote:So anyways Beasley's wife is filing for divorce.

https://ahnfiredigital.com/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/malik-beasleys-wife-files-for-divorce-after-larsa-pippen-dating-controversy/

It's truly sad for his son that he was born into this kind of dysfunction. Beasley's life is total chaos right now


I'd say Beasley's career is going pretty well is not total chaos.

I don't exactly have a ton to go off of but it doesn't seem like Beasley's relationship with his wife was going well before he was hanging out with another woman. This isn't shocking to me at all.

Beasley has been accused of more than infidelity etc but until a few years ago a lot of stuff about athletes was simply not known or people didn't really care. I'm not saying stuff doesn't matter because ultimately it does but is good to consider some context. It's also worth considering people that are in the spotlight that haven't really made any missteps probably should be given some sort of credit for that as well. There are also legit redemption stories. There are also the Darren Sharper situations that NOBODY seemed to see coming.

And yes hopefully the kid turns out ok.


Beasley's wife came to every home game last season. She sat just across the isle from us. She was high energy and always smiling. And of course, she's incredibly gorgeous. She seemed to adore Malik. She would stand up and yell whenever he'd score. She blew kisses at him a couple times. Some I know in the organization said the Wolves front office spend a lot of effort wining and dining his wife as part of their strategy to encourage Beasley to re-sign. It's impossible to know what was going on behind the scenes, but they sure seemed like a happy couple. The Pippen thing is just plain weird. I don't know what to make of Malik.


It feels like it is all going to come down to how he plays on the court. He can easily play up to his contract. He is an elite shooter, who seems to really work hard and bring hard nose play. He does have obvious flaws to his game, not good off the dribble, isn't a playmaker, tries hard on D but isn't good at it (Shabazz syndrome). I just think if we play out Beasley contract a 100 times there is more scenarios where it goes bad and more scenarios that I am comfortable with where it could go in a disastrous way.
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monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:So CBS (And Fox) from their own networks that carries sports Is hoping this elaborate plan is gonna help them create more overall revenue? Who watches CBS news anyway? So the average sports fan is going to watch CNN and drive the advertising dollars for that network? I'm sorry but I don't see the money coming in from this situation to those media outlets like you say. Honestly the idea of people not watching sports and soaking up CNN makes me laugh. You know that people that own these types of media empires have other business interests right? Lots of people don't even watch any kind of televised news at all. If you have numbers that show otherwise I'd like to see them. There is simply a lot of lost revenue in the pandemic and a lot of it to people that have A LOT of money. I haven't seen anything You have presented that convinced me for this scenario to be real. Thanks for your responses.


Monster- Here is a trust in media poll. It was a record low in 2016 at 32% of people who trusted the media a fair to great amount.

Democrats are the most brainwashed with a still 76% trust in media which is astonishing.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/243665/media-trust-continues-recover-2016-low.aspx

If people don't trust the media, they are not going to watch the media either since they know it's crap.

You kind of help my point is that the people that own these media conglomerates do also own or invest in other large corporations as well which would only benefit from smaller businesses going under during the pandemic.


You just said people aren't going to watch media because it's crap. I thought you said they were going to watch it more and that was the whole point of this whole thing.


That was 2016, so yes the media conglomerates were in serious trouble. I'm simply pointing to a motive as to how they can start to rebuild or boost ratings. It was in a Simpsons episode which was where I got the idea.

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Do you have any proof in 2020 that it's actually working?


I don't have any poll numbers yet. Being private companies they don't need to share revenue or profitability.

Do you have proof they are not?
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lipoli390 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:My Dad (longtime Wolves season ticket-holder by the way and one of the main reasons I follow this team) just died from Covid not that long ago. While he was no spring chicken, he was in good health, of sound body and mind. You damn well better believe it can be serious and deadly.

As for the man-made/government conspiracy angle, pandemics and viruses in particular have been around forever. They really don't need us men to create them!

(By they way, Ted Turner hasn't had anything to do with CNN or TNT for years, as he sold off his stake in those entities a long time ago. So if he was in on this vast conspiracy to boost ratings and kill off old people - like himself I guess? - then he's certainly missing out on any of the gains).


Sorry for your loss, Q. Yes, Covid is a dangerous and highly contagious disease. My sister teaches at a community college in Iowa. Three of her students, all in their 20s and 30s, have contracted the disease. One of them described it as 10 times worse that the flu. A friend of mine sent me an email earlier this week telling me that his entire family (himself, his wife and two older children came down with Covid - likely spread by his son who works in a convenience store. His son and all the patrons wear masks, but obviously even masks aren't 100% effective. His wife got very sick, but is feeling better now.


Almost everyone I know has a heart-breaking story involving Covid- while flu can be unpleasant and can also take lives, I have no heart-breaking stories in my life involving flu. Many of us have lost friends or family, and some of the survivor stories are almost as bad. Just last month a healthy friend of min in his late 40s was in the ICU on a ventilator...his stories about his experience are horrific, and his doctor advises him that he is likely to have suffered life-changing damage to his body even though he has "survived" Covid. Here's the saddest part. The day after they removed the ventilator, they told him he had to go home because his bed was needed for those sicker than him, even though he still felt like he was at death's door...there just aren't enough available beds. His wife was able to get him down to their car in the wheelchair they provided, but she couldn't provide much help when they got home (he's a former college football player and a big guy). My friend was unable to walk after he got out of the car, and had to crawl to the house and up the stairs to his bed. Weeks later he is back at work, but still feels quite weak.

We hear about the tragedy of the increasing number of deaths, but for every death, there are probably 10 "survivor" stories like my friend's. (Full disclosure to keep it real here, I also know several people who got the virus, and said the symptoms were not much worse than a bad flu). We all need to follow the guidelines the CDC has put out there for us until an effective vaccine is available to us. Believe me, you don't want to get this virus.
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WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:So CBS (And Fox) from their own networks that carries sports Is hoping this elaborate plan is gonna help them create more overall revenue? Who watches CBS news anyway? So the average sports fan is going to watch CNN and drive the advertising dollars for that network? I'm sorry but I don't see the money coming in from this situation to those media outlets like you say. Honestly the idea of people not watching sports and soaking up CNN makes me laugh. You know that people that own these types of media empires have other business interests right? Lots of people don't even watch any kind of televised news at all. If you have numbers that show otherwise I'd like to see them. There is simply a lot of lost revenue in the pandemic and a lot of it to people that have A LOT of money. I haven't seen anything You have presented that convinced me for this scenario to be real. Thanks for your responses.


Monster- Here is a trust in media poll. It was a record low in 2016 at 32% of people who trusted the media a fair to great amount.

Democrats are the most brainwashed with a still 76% trust in media which is astonishing.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/243665/media-trust-continues-recover-2016-low.aspx

If people don't trust the media, they are not going to watch the media either since they know it's crap.

You kind of help my point is that the people that own these media conglomerates do also own or invest in other large corporations as well which would only benefit from smaller businesses going under during the pandemic.


You just said people aren't going to watch media because it's crap. I thought you said they were going to watch it more and that was the whole point of this whole thing.


That was 2016, so yes the media conglomerates were in serious trouble. I'm simply pointing to a motive as to how they can start to rebuild or boost ratings. It was in a Simpsons episode which was where I got the idea.

[youtube]V5ATxwXSvKo[/youtube]


Do you have any proof in 2020 that it's actually working?


I don't have any poll numbers yet. Being private companies they don't need to share revenue or profitability.

Do you have proof they are not?


Can you understand why I'm skeptical of without proof? Would you be willing to believe someone based on the evidence you presented to me?
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monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:So CBS (And Fox) from their own networks that carries sports Is hoping this elaborate plan is gonna help them create more overall revenue? Who watches CBS news anyway? So the average sports fan is going to watch CNN and drive the advertising dollars for that network? I'm sorry but I don't see the money coming in from this situation to those media outlets like you say. Honestly the idea of people not watching sports and soaking up CNN makes me laugh. You know that people that own these types of media empires have other business interests right? Lots of people don't even watch any kind of televised news at all. If you have numbers that show otherwise I'd like to see them. There is simply a lot of lost revenue in the pandemic and a lot of it to people that have A LOT of money. I haven't seen anything You have presented that convinced me for this scenario to be real. Thanks for your responses.


Monster- Here is a trust in media poll. It was a record low in 2016 at 32% of people who trusted the media a fair to great amount.

Democrats are the most brainwashed with a still 76% trust in media which is astonishing.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/243665/media-trust-continues-recover-2016-low.aspx

If people don't trust the media, they are not going to watch the media either since they know it's crap.

You kind of help my point is that the people that own these media conglomerates do also own or invest in other large corporations as well which would only benefit from smaller businesses going under during the pandemic.


You just said people aren't going to watch media because it's crap. I thought you said they were going to watch it more and that was the whole point of this whole thing.


That was 2016, so yes the media conglomerates were in serious trouble. I'm simply pointing to a motive as to how they can start to rebuild or boost ratings. It was in a Simpsons episode which was where I got the idea.

[youtube]V5ATxwXSvKo[/youtube]


Do you have any proof in 2020 that it's actually working?


I don't have any poll numbers yet. Being private companies they don't need to share revenue or profitability.

Do you have proof they are not?


Can you understand why I'm skeptical of without proof? Would you be willing to believe someone based on the evidence you presented to me?


I don't believe it either only that it is possible if not probable, but I understand how these people work. Do you think 9/11 was an inside job? If you do then you know the media had to be involved as well. So it becomes even more logical that when someone does evil over and over to control the minds of the masses as well as their actions, then you don't underestimate what they will do going forward. You have to understand the enemy. They are greedy evil psychopaths. That's just the flat out truth.
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WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:So CBS (And Fox) from their own networks that carries sports Is hoping this elaborate plan is gonna help them create more overall revenue? Who watches CBS news anyway? So the average sports fan is going to watch CNN and drive the advertising dollars for that network? I'm sorry but I don't see the money coming in from this situation to those media outlets like you say. Honestly the idea of people not watching sports and soaking up CNN makes me laugh. You know that people that own these types of media empires have other business interests right? Lots of people don't even watch any kind of televised news at all. If you have numbers that show otherwise I'd like to see them. There is simply a lot of lost revenue in the pandemic and a lot of it to people that have A LOT of money. I haven't seen anything You have presented that convinced me for this scenario to be real. Thanks for your responses.


Monster- Here is a trust in media poll. It was a record low in 2016 at 32% of people who trusted the media a fair to great amount.

Democrats are the most brainwashed with a still 76% trust in media which is astonishing.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/243665/media-trust-continues-recover-2016-low.aspx

If people don't trust the media, they are not going to watch the media either since they know it's crap.

You kind of help my point is that the people that own these media conglomerates do also own or invest in other large corporations as well which would only benefit from smaller businesses going under during the pandemic.


You just said people aren't going to watch media because it's crap. I thought you said they were going to watch it more and that was the whole point of this whole thing.


That was 2016, so yes the media conglomerates were in serious trouble. I'm simply pointing to a motive as to how they can start to rebuild or boost ratings. It was in a Simpsons episode which was where I got the idea.

[youtube]V5ATxwXSvKo[/youtube]


Do you have any proof in 2020 that it's actually working?


I don't have any poll numbers yet. Being private companies they don't need to share revenue or profitability.

Do you have proof they are not?


You are flat-out wrong on both fronts. Stop peddling falsehoods that feed your fantastical conspiracy theories.

The vast majority of mass media entities are owned by publicly traded companies that report revenue and earnings on a quarterly basis that is easily accessible to the public with a couple of clicks.

- CNN is part of Warnermedia, which is owned by AT&T. AT&T breaks out earnings and revenues by operating segment. Warnermedia is one of those segments.

- Fox is part of the Fox Corporation, another publicly traded company.

- NBC, MSNBC, and CNBC are all owned by Comcast NBCUniversal. They also breakout earnings for their media properties.

Also, there are ratings firms that constantly gauge the viewership of these outlets. That is also accessible to the public.

Also, no, these companies were NOT in trouble in 2016. In fact, they were doing quite well.

From the Comcast earnings report for year-end 2016:
NBCUniversal Revenue Increased 13.0% and Operating Cash Flow Increased 14.0%

From Fox's 2016 earnings release:
The Company reported annual total segment operating income before depreciation and amortization ("OIBDA")3 of $6.60 billion, which was $109 million, or 2%, higher than the adjusted OIBDA4 reported in the prior year

From Warnermedia's 2016 earnings release:
Operating Income grew 10% to $7.5 billion and Adjusted Operating Income grew 10% to $7.6 billion


It's hard to take anything you say seriously about this stuff when you get just basic facts wrong. Yet we're supposed to believe these elaborate conspiracy theories you keep floating!?
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Q12543 wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:















It's hard to take anything you say seriously about this stuff when you get just basic facts wrong. Yet we're supposed to believe these elaborate conspiracy theories you keep floating!?



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Q12543 wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:So CBS (And Fox) from their own networks that carries sports Is hoping this elaborate plan is gonna help them create more overall revenue? Who watches CBS news anyway? So the average sports fan is going to watch CNN and drive the advertising dollars for that network? I'm sorry but I don't see the money coming in from this situation to those media outlets like you say. Honestly the idea of people not watching sports and soaking up CNN makes me laugh. You know that people that own these types of media empires have other business interests right? Lots of people don't even watch any kind of televised news at all. If you have numbers that show otherwise I'd like to see them. There is simply a lot of lost revenue in the pandemic and a lot of it to people that have A LOT of money. I haven't seen anything You have presented that convinced me for this scenario to be real. Thanks for your responses.


Monster- Here is a trust in media poll. It was a record low in 2016 at 32% of people who trusted the media a fair to great amount.

Democrats are the most brainwashed with a still 76% trust in media which is astonishing.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/243665/media-trust-continues-recover-2016-low.aspx

If people don't trust the media, they are not going to watch the media either since they know it's crap.

You kind of help my point is that the people that own these media conglomerates do also own or invest in other large corporations as well which would only benefit from smaller businesses going under during the pandemic.


You just said people aren't going to watch media because it's crap. I thought you said they were going to watch it more and that was the whole point of this whole thing.


That was 2016, so yes the media conglomerates were in serious trouble. I'm simply pointing to a motive as to how they can start to rebuild or boost ratings. It was in a Simpsons episode which was where I got the idea.

[youtube]V5ATxwXSvKo[/youtube]


Do you have any proof in 2020 that it's actually working?


I don't have any poll numbers yet. Being private companies they don't need to share revenue or profitability.

Do you have proof they are not?


You are flat-out wrong on both fronts. Stop peddling falsehoods that feed your fantastical conspiracy theories.

The vast majority of mass media entities are owned by publicly traded companies that report revenue and earnings on a quarterly basis that is easily accessible to the public with a couple of clicks.

- CNN is part of Warnermedia, which is owned by AT&T. AT&T breaks out earnings and revenues by operating segment. Warnermedia is one of those segments.

- Fox is part of the Fox Corporation, another publicly traded company.

- NBC, MSNBC, and CNBC are all owned by Comcast NBCUniversal. They also breakout earnings for their media properties.

Also, there are ratings firms that constantly gauge the viewership of these outlets. That is also accessible to the public.

Also, no, these companies were NOT in trouble in 2016. In fact, they were doing quite well.

From the Comcast earnings report for year-end 2016:
NBCUniversal Revenue Increased 13.0% and Operating Cash Flow Increased 14.0%

From Fox's 2016 earnings release:
The Company reported annual total segment operating income before depreciation and amortization ("OIBDA")3 of $6.60 billion, which was $109 million, or 2%, higher than the adjusted OIBDA4 reported in the prior year

From Warnermedia's 2016 earnings release:
Operating Income grew 10% to $7.5 billion and Adjusted Operating Income grew 10% to $7.6 billion


It's hard to take anything you say seriously about this stuff when you get just basic facts wrong. Yet we're supposed to believe these elaborate conspiracy theories you keep floating!?


They are large conglomerates and even then I thought Fox News was mostly owned by Rupert Murdoch. Just like CNN was owned by Turner.

In July 1985, 20th Century Fox announced Murdoch had completed his purchase of 50% of Fox Filmed Entertainment, the parent company of 20th Century Fox Film Corporation.[29] A year later, 20th Century Fox earned $5.6 million in its fiscal third period ended May 31, 1986, in contrast to a loss of $55.8 million in the third period of the previous year.[30]

So sure they are publicly traded and privately owned at the same time. However did you look up the ratings of all these stations from say 2010 to today? I clearly remember Fox News was one of the highest rated cable news networks back around maybe 2010. Then once they started running all the false flag black ops and really ramping up the propaganda things went south for them and CNN. Which I was happy to see!

I will add that my poll completely illustrates that most people know that "news" is complete crap. As trust in the "news" was down to a record low of 32% in 2016 according to the long time running Gallup poll.
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WolvesFan21 wrote:
Q12543 wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:
monsterpile wrote:
WolvesFan21 wrote:So CBS (And Fox) from their own networks that carries sports Is hoping this elaborate plan is gonna help them create more overall revenue? Who watches CBS news anyway? So the average sports fan is going to watch CNN and drive the advertising dollars for that network? I'm sorry but I don't see the money coming in from this situation to those media outlets like you say. Honestly the idea of people not watching sports and soaking up CNN makes me laugh. You know that people that own these types of media empires have other business interests right? Lots of people don't even watch any kind of televised news at all. If you have numbers that show otherwise I'd like to see them. There is simply a lot of lost revenue in the pandemic and a lot of it to people that have A LOT of money. I haven't seen anything You have presented that convinced me for this scenario to be real. Thanks for your responses.


Monster- Here is a trust in media poll. It was a record low in 2016 at 32% of people who trusted the media a fair to great amount.

Democrats are the most brainwashed with a still 76% trust in media which is astonishing.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/243665/media-trust-continues-recover-2016-low.aspx

If people don't trust the media, they are not going to watch the media either since they know it's crap.

You kind of help my point is that the people that own these media conglomerates do also own or invest in other large corporations as well which would only benefit from smaller businesses going under during the pandemic.


You just said people aren't going to watch media because it's crap. I thought you said they were going to watch it more and that was the whole point of this whole thing.


That was 2016, so yes the media conglomerates were in serious trouble. I'm simply pointing to a motive as to how they can start to rebuild or boost ratings. It was in a Simpsons episode which was where I got the idea.

[youtube]V5ATxwXSvKo[/youtube]


Do you have any proof in 2020 that it's actually working?


I don't have any poll numbers yet. Being private companies they don't need to share revenue or profitability.

Do you have proof they are not?


You are flat-out wrong on both fronts. Stop peddling falsehoods that feed your fantastical conspiracy theories.

The vast majority of mass media entities are owned by publicly traded companies that report revenue and earnings on a quarterly basis that is easily accessible to the public with a couple of clicks.

- CNN is part of Warnermedia, which is owned by AT&T. AT&T breaks out earnings and revenues by operating segment. Warnermedia is one of those segments.

- Fox is part of the Fox Corporation, another publicly traded company.

- NBC, MSNBC, and CNBC are all owned by Comcast NBCUniversal. They also breakout earnings for their media properties.

Also, there are ratings firms that constantly gauge the viewership of these outlets. That is also accessible to the public.

Also, no, these companies were NOT in trouble in 2016. In fact, they were doing quite well.

From the Comcast earnings report for year-end 2016:
NBCUniversal Revenue Increased 13.0% and Operating Cash Flow Increased 14.0%

From Fox's 2016 earnings release:
The Company reported annual total segment operating income before depreciation and amortization ("OIBDA")3 of $6.60 billion, which was $109 million, or 2%, higher than the adjusted OIBDA4 reported in the prior year

From Warnermedia's 2016 earnings release:
Operating Income grew 10% to $7.5 billion and Adjusted Operating Income grew 10% to $7.6 billion


It's hard to take anything you say seriously about this stuff when you get just basic facts wrong. Yet we're supposed to believe these elaborate conspiracy theories you keep floating!?


They are large conglomerates and even then I thought Fox News was mostly owned by Rupert Murdoch. Just like CNN was owned by Turner.

In July 1985, 20th Century Fox announced Murdoch had completed his purchase of 50% of Fox Filmed Entertainment, the parent company of 20th Century Fox Film Corporation.[29] A year later, 20th Century Fox earned $5.6 million in its fiscal third period ended May 31, 1986, in contrast to a loss of $55.8 million in the third period of the previous year.[30]

So sure they are publicly traded and privately owned at the same time. However did you look up the ratings of all these stations from say 2010 to today? I clearly remember Fox News was one of the highest rated cable news networks back around maybe 2010. Then once they started running all the false flag black ops and really ramping up the propaganda things went south for them and CNN. Which I was happy to see!

I will add that my poll completely illustrates that most people know that "news" is complete crap. As trust in the "news" was down to a record low of 32% in 2016 according to the long time running Gallup poll.


Fox News has been a wild ratings and financial success for many years now. I'm not the one that needs to go research information. You consistently get your facts wrong.

I also find it ironic that you are putting so much faith in the Gallup poll. Gallup is about as much in the mainstream as many of these media companies. Gallup is based in - you guessed it - Washington D.C.. How come you trust their data, but all other news is complete crap?

Perhaps you are cherry-picking data that fits your delusional narrative? Mmmm, that sounds very much like what a Washington D.C. elite would do! You must be part of the elite running a counter-intelligence operation on us ignorant proletariat sports fans! Caught you!!!
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