Wolves vs Nuggets GDT:Ricky's trade value is rising

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Last year fg% in clutch situations

Wiggins: 39%

Lavine: 31%

Towns: 52% (with a average shot attempt of 4 feet)
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Wiggins also has the least amount of fg attempts of the big three in clutch situations
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kekgeek1 wrote:Wiggins also has the least amount of fg attempts of the big three in clutch situations

That surprises me. Mitchell and Thibs both seem to get him the ball in those situations.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:Riddle me this: Wig has 20 first half points and made it look easy. We start the 3rd quarter and he is completely removed from the offense. Everything is being run through KAT, Wiggins is getting shade on the perimeter so everything gets funneled to Ricky for shots he couldn't make. It results in a terrible 3rd quarter. Why didn't we continue to run some sets through Wig?


Interesting info, Cool. Thanks.

I didn't see the game tonight. The box score tells me we lost because of a pathetic bench with Belly going 0-5 and Dunn 1-5. But your observation is troubling. It highlights a tendency I've observed repeatedly this season where Thibs changes his offensive approach in a game without regard to what has been previously working in that game. They are either predetermined formulaic changes or "gut feeling" changes. Neither makes sense to me. But maybe there's a deeper explanation.
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CoolBreeze44 wrote:
kekgeek1 wrote:Wiggins also has the least amount of fg attempts of the big three in clutch situations

That surprises me. Mitchell and Thibs both seem to get him the ball in those situations.


That is just for this year and they are all really close, Like Wiggins has 6 attempts, Zach has like 8 and so does Towns. Not a big difference, but my main point for making the point is that people complain that we always go to Wiggins down the stretch but that is not true.
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lipoli390 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Riddle me this: Wig has 20 first half points and made it look easy. We start the 3rd quarter and he is completely removed from the offense. Everything is being run through KAT, Wiggins is getting shade on the perimeter so everything gets funneled to Ricky for shots he couldn't make. It results in a terrible 3rd quarter. Why didn't we continue to run some sets through Wig?


Interesting info, Cool. Thanks.

I didn't see the game tonight. The box score tells me we lost because of a pathetic bench with Belly going 0-5 and Dunn 1-5. But your observation is troubling. It highlights a tendency I've observed repeatedly this season where Thibs changes his offensive approach in a game without regard to what has been previously working in that game. They are either predetermined formulaic changes or "gut feeling" changes. Neither makes sense to me. But maybe there's a deeper explanation.


To me we were doing the exact same thing as we were in the 1st half where Wiggins was super successful we worked inside out, letting Towns make the correct basketball play. Wiggins scored I believe 4 buckets off Towns assists in the 1st half. Also Wiggins was getting the ball and then making the correct basketball play and passed it off to a wide open ricky and ricky clanked them, Same with Belly.


Honestly I think this was the best ball movement the wolves have had all year, but players did not step up and make shots, Ricky missed a ton of open jumpers, so did Dunn, so did Belly and So did Lavine (he made some tough ones also). Like Cool mentioned in the thread Wiggins would have had like 7 assists if players hit open jumpers
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I think this next game is going to be really interesting how the Bucks defend us, like we had so many open jumpers tonight and had great ball movement working Towns inside. But we have a big liability with Ricky or Dunn out there because they just leave them. But we are getting open jumpers. But how the Nuggets played Towns I think it took him out of rhythm during the game. But overall I was impressed with Towns a lot tonight.
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The game plan was to go thru Kat, I'm not going to argue with that all. Wig was getting his points after a Kat touch. He was playing great, making shots and finding open guys. Wig did miss his first handful of shots to start the 2nd half. It wasn't like he stopped touching it. He did sit for an extended period in the 2nd half. His finish was frustrating. Overall I was encourage by his and KAT's game, specifically the play making by both. Step forward I believe. Rubio, ship him out now and let Dunn play.

I believe Dunn's ability off the dribble is a threat. He needs confidence, not sure when to pick his spots right now. And learn patience and the team approach to defense, the skill set is there on D no doubt.
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kekgeek1 wrote:
lipoli390 wrote:
CoolBreeze44 wrote:Riddle me this: Wig has 20 first half points and made it look easy. We start the 3rd quarter and he is completely removed from the offense. Everything is being run through KAT, Wiggins is getting shade on the perimeter so everything gets funneled to Ricky for shots he couldn't make. It results in a terrible 3rd quarter. Why didn't we continue to run some sets through Wig?


Interesting info, Cool. Thanks.

I didn't see the game tonight. The box score tells me we lost because of a pathetic bench with Belly going 0-5 and Dunn 1-5. But your observation is troubling. It highlights a tendency I've observed repeatedly this season where Thibs changes his offensive approach in a game without regard to what has been previously working in that game. They are either predetermined formulaic changes or "gut feeling" changes. Neither makes sense to me. But maybe there's a deeper explanation.


To me we were doing the exact same thing as we were in the 1st half where Wiggins was super successful we worked inside out, letting Towns make the correct basketball play. Wiggins scored I believe 4 buckets off Towns assists in the 1st half. Also Wiggins was getting the ball and then making the correct basketball play and passed it off to a wide open ricky and ricky clanked them, Same with Belly.


Honestly I think this was the best ball movement the wolves have had all year, but players did not step up and make shots, Ricky missed a ton of open jumpers, so did Dunn, so did Belly and So did Lavine (he made some tough ones also). Like Cool mentioned in the thread Wiggins would have had like 7 assists if players hit open jumpers

In the first half they seemed to get Wig the ball earlier in the shot clock. That stopped happening in the 3rd quarter for whatever reason. Maybe Thibs wanted to get KAT going, maybe Wig wasn't getting to the open areas, or maybe the Nuggets took away what he was getting in the first half. But one thing I know for sure is Wig was made a bystander for the first half of the quarter, and then he lost his rhythm.
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Duke13 wrote:The game plan was to go thru Kat, I'm not going to argue with that all. Wig was getting his points after a Kat touch. He was playing great, making shots and finding open guys. Wig did miss his first handful of shots to start the 2nd half. It wasn't like he stopped touching it. He did sit for an extended period in the 2nd half. His finish was frustrating. Overall I was encourage by his and KAT's game, specifically the play making by both. Step forward I believe. Rubio, ship him out now and let Dunn play.

I believe Dunn's ability off the dribble is a threat. He needs confidence, not sure when to pick his spots right now. And learn patience and the team approach to defense, the skill set is there on D no doubt.

Duke, Wig might have touched the ball once or twice in the first half of the third. He missed some shots toward the end of the quarter but not the critical first 5-6 minutes.
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