Mikkeman wrote:At least Zach believes he can improve his defence. This is taken from interview after he was selected to all star team: "Obviously, if we continue to play the right way and I'm playing at a high level, I can see myself as All-NBA team. If I continue to up my defense and being consistent, I can see myself as an All-Defensive team guy."
He and Towns must have been in some of the same "how to speak to the media" seminars while youngsters with the Wolves.
Ha, exactly! Haven't we heard this same malarkey from DLO!?
(hat tip to Joe Biden for bringing "malarkey" back into the contemporary lexicon after a few decades collecting dust in the attic of words).
I know Cool doesn't agree with his politics... but I feel like he'd be a fan of the term "malarkey" if anybody else but Biden brought it back.
May be we can find a happy medium and bring back the term "hogwash!".
I've always been a big fan of hogwash. In fact, as I sit on my davenport in my knickers, I'm thinking of ways to finagle a hodgepodge of old-timey words like malarkey, hogwash, poppycock, baloney and hullabaloo into everyday gab sessions to hoodwink people into thinking I'm 90 years old. I just worry it would end in a kerfuffle or donnybrook though.
Mikkeman wrote:At least Zach believes he can improve his defence. This is taken from interview after he was selected to all star team: "Obviously, if we continue to play the right way and I'm playing at a high level, I can see myself as All-NBA team. If I continue to up my defense and being consistent, I can see myself as an All-Defensive team guy."
He and Towns must have been in some of the same "how to speak to the media" seminars while youngsters with the Wolves.
Ha, exactly! Haven't we heard this same malarkey from DLO!?
(hat tip to Joe Biden for bringing "malarkey" back into the contemporary lexicon after a few decades collecting dust in the attic of words).
I know Cool doesn't agree with his politics... but I feel like he'd be a fan of the term "malarkey" if anybody else but Biden brought it back.
May be we can find a happy medium and bring back the term "hogwash!".
kekgeek1 wrote:Not that it matters but by the 2 minute report Kat 6th foul was incorrect.
I think Towns commits a lot of dumb fouls.
I also think Towns seems to be snake-bitten by calls.
And he's definitely a victim of the new NBA officiating where anything goes in the post and nothing is allowed outside of it.
[Note: The other day... when he was getting clobbered with no call in the post... only to get three free throws when TJ McConnell merely tapped his stomach (maybe not even that?) on a three point attempt was both funny. And sad.]
Mikkeman wrote:At least Zach believes he can improve his defence. This is taken from interview after he was selected to all star team: "Obviously, if we continue to play the right way and I'm playing at a high level, I can see myself as All-NBA team. If I continue to up my defense and being consistent, I can see myself as an All-Defensive team guy."
He and Towns must have been in some of the same "how to speak to the media" seminars while youngsters with the Wolves.
Hopefully it's that since if it's not and Zach truly believes he will be all defensive team guy, he has to be badly delusional.
FNG wrote:
And mikkeman is correct. The Bulls play backwards, with their veteran 2-way players bailing out their young starters night after night. Their starters are much more entertaining, but the reserves win for them, so Zach would and does register better playing with the reserves. It should be noted though that Zach's defensive measures are the worst on the team and maybe the league. The other starters are negative on defense also, but not nearly as much as Zach...and their numbers are punished by being on the court so much with Zach.
Actually playing with Zach improves other starters on-off numbers. So their numbers are definitely not punished by being on court with him.
For example White is only -7.2 when playing with Zach compared to his -10.6 overall. Williams is -4.5 with Zach and -7.9 overall. Carter is -10.4 with Zach and -13.6 overall.
So if they are performing better when they share court with Zach than when they are not, playing with Lavine is actually helping their otherwise woeful numbers.
FNG wrote:
And mikkeman is correct. The Bulls play backwards, with their veteran 2-way players bailing out their young starters night after night. Their starters are much more entertaining, but the reserves win for them, so Zach would and does register better playing with the reserves. It should be noted though that Zach's defensive measures are the worst on the team and maybe the league. The other starters are negative on defense also, but not nearly as much as Zach...and their numbers are punished by being on the court so much with Zach.
Actually playing with Zach improves other starters on-off numbers. So their numbers are definitely not punished by being on court with him.
For example White is only -7.2 when playing with Zach compared to his -10.6 overall. Williams is -4.5 with Zach and -7.9 overall. Carter is -10.4 with Zach and -13.6 overall.
So if they are performing better when they share court with Zach than when they are not, playing with Lavine is actually helping their otherwise woeful numbers.
I am of the idea that plus-minus is the dumbest stat for evaluation. It is mostly based on what the team is accomplishing. I have seen shit players post positives when their team wins, and great players play well in a loss and show up negative. It is a god damn made up click bait.
FNG wrote:
And mikkeman is correct. The Bulls play backwards, with their veteran 2-way players bailing out their young starters night after night. Their starters are much more entertaining, but the reserves win for them, so Zach would and does register better playing with the reserves. It should be noted though that Zach's defensive measures are the worst on the team and maybe the league. The other starters are negative on defense also, but not nearly as much as Zach...and their numbers are punished by being on the court so much with Zach.
Actually playing with Zach improves other starters on-off numbers. So their numbers are definitely not punished by being on court with him.
For example White is only -7.2 when playing with Zach compared to his -10.6 overall. Williams is -4.5 with Zach and -7.9 overall. Carter is -10.4 with Zach and -13.6 overall.
So if they are performing better when they share court with Zach than when they are not, playing with Lavine is actually helping their otherwise woeful numbers.
I am of the idea that plus-minus is the dumbest stat for evaluation. It is mostly based on what the team is accomplishing. I have seen shit players post positives when their team wins, and great players play well in a loss and show up negative. It is a god damn made up click bait.
Made up click bait may be a little extreme.....Keep in mind that unlike other sports, the guy plus-minus is evaluating is 20% of his team's lineup on both offense and defense. In no other team sport does one guy make up 20% of the offense and defense. That's not statistically insignificant.
In addition, there are more advanced versions of +/- that try to control for who the player's team mates are so that it gives a more accurate depiction of the individual's true contributions.
Lastly, the more advanced plus-minus stats might be the only ones that provide some reasonably accurate depiction of a player's defensive contributions, something none of the box-score based stats do well at all. For example, if you had never seen Jaden McDaniels play and only looked at his box-score stats, you would think he was a typical underachieving Wolves rookie.
FNG wrote:
And mikkeman is correct. The Bulls play backwards, with their veteran 2-way players bailing out their young starters night after night. Their starters are much more entertaining, but the reserves win for them, so Zach would and does register better playing with the reserves. It should be noted though that Zach's defensive measures are the worst on the team and maybe the league. The other starters are negative on defense also, but not nearly as much as Zach...and their numbers are punished by being on the court so much with Zach.
Actually playing with Zach improves other starters on-off numbers. So their numbers are definitely not punished by being on court with him.
For example White is only -7.2 when playing with Zach compared to his -10.6 overall. Williams is -4.5 with Zach and -7.9 overall. Carter is -10.4 with Zach and -13.6 overall.
So if they are performing better when they share court with Zach than when they are not, playing with Lavine is actually helping their otherwise woeful numbers.
That makes sense, because Zach is so efficient on offense, comparable to Durant this season it would be hard to imagine that isn't completely helpful to actual wins. I think Zach and Durant or comparable in most stats including win shares. (how much you contribute to actual winning)
Interesting Lillard and Trae Young or both worse then LaVine on defense DBPM.
Also Ant is second to last in the league in win shares. He has to continue to make improvements because he is clearly hurting the team in the win loss column.
