What does success for a new head coach look like?

[FNG]

I feel like everyone is purposely responding with everything I requested they not do lol

They're clearly f-ing with you hockey...do you always command this much respect :) ?

To answer your question, if they don't play at least .500 with DLO out, I will be disappointed.

Finch is not going to have the personal relationships with our players that Ryan had, and that will give him more freedom to make some significant changes to the rotation. He is clearly a data driven guy, and I suspect he will have a good handle by the end of today on who has a positive impact on the court, and who has a negative impact (I'll start a thread on this topic later today...Cam. you won't want to read it ;-) ) And with a long-term contract, he will be able to do whatever he wants to do...not what Rosas wants him to do. As much as I love Ant's potential, I think Finch is going to recognize right away that he is not helping us win, and I expect Ant is going to move to the bench with minutes reduced. I also think Vando's (who I also still like a lot) days in the starting lineup are over, and Jaden McDaniels is going to see the court more.

[Leado01]

21-20.

[BloopOracle]

I want to see Jaden McDaniels continue to see his minutes increase, I want to see plenty of Anthony Edwards on the floor but occasionally run a goddamn play for him once in a while.

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I don't care, FNG. I typically skim over your comments these days anyways since you have a distorted view of the game and the players on the court. I just happened to notice the name-drop, though. I'm sure you'll continue to place an absurd amount of value on one notoriously flawed stat and ignore all others. Same old story.

[FNG]

I don't care, FNG. I typically skim over your comments these days anyways since you have a distorted view of the game and the players on the court. I just happened to notice the name-drop, though. I'm sure you'll continue to place an absurd amount of value on one notoriously flawed stat and ignore all others. Same old story.

Story of my life, cam...story of my life. Now, mix a stiff drink and brace yourself for a thread that takes the controversial stance that outscoring your opponent while you're on the court just might have some importance if you want to win basketball games. Or just skim over the thread or skip it completely and stay in the comfortable fantasyland where DLO is king and defense is optional. To paraphrase, denial is not just a river in Ethiopia ;) .

[kekgeek]

I don't care, FNG. I typically skim over your comments these days anyways since you have a distorted view of the game and the players on the court. I just happened to notice the name-drop, though. I'm sure you'll continue to place an absurd amount of value on one notoriously flawed stat and ignore all others. Same old story.

Story of my life, cam...story of my life. Now, mix a stiff drink and brace yourself for a thread that takes the controversial stance that outscoring your opponent while you're on the court just might have some importance if you want to win basketball games. Or just skim over the thread or skip it completely and stay in the comfortable fantasyland where DLO is king and defense is optional. To paraphrase, denial is not just a river in Ethiopia ;) .

So should the Suns start Cameron Payne over Chris Paul???

Should the Wolves trade Towns for Muscala?

[Camden [enjin:6601484]]

I don't care, FNG. I typically skim over your comments these days anyways since you have a distorted view of the game and the players on the court. I just happened to notice the name-drop, though. I'm sure you'll continue to place an absurd amount of value on one notoriously flawed stat and ignore all others. Same old story.

Story of my life, cam...story of my life. Now, mix a stiff drink and brace yourself for a thread that takes the controversial stance that outscoring your opponent while you're on the court just might have some importance if you want to win basketball games. Or just skim over the thread or skip it completely and stay in the comfortable fantasyland where DLO is king and defense is optional. To paraphrase, denial is not just a river in Ethiopia ;) .

That's not what your thread or discussion points actually support, though. If it was, we'd see a much more comprehensive analysis than the one you typically give. You usually run your mouth about a statistic that tends to ignore context. It ignores factors that are out of players control, namely their other four teammates, their opposition's lineup at any given time, and the game situation. Therefore, you leave us all with a half-assed explanation of what happened over the course of a game or season because you can't seem to include other data into your assessment. We've talked about this many times and somehow you're still incapable of embracing it.

How does the saying go? What's the definition of insanity? Oh, right. All hail the plus-minus gods.

[kekgeek]

I don't care, FNG. I typically skim over your comments these days anyways since you have a distorted view of the game and the players on the court. I just happened to notice the name-drop, though. I'm sure you'll continue to place an absurd amount of value on one notoriously flawed stat and ignore all others. Same old story.

Story of my life, cam...story of my life. Now, mix a stiff drink and brace yourself for a thread that takes the controversial stance that outscoring your opponent while you're on the court just might have some importance if you want to win basketball games. Or just skim over the thread or skip it completely and stay in the comfortable fantasyland where DLO is king and defense is optional. To paraphrase, denial is not just a river in Ethiopia ;) .

That's not what your thread or discussion points actually support, though. If it was, we'd see a much more comprehensive analysis than the one you typically give. You usually run your mouth about a statistic that tends to ignore context. It ignores factors that are out of players control, namely their other four teammates, their opposition's lineup at any given time, and the game situation. Therefore, you leave us all with a half-assed explanation of what happened over the course of a game or season because you can't seem to include other data into your assessment. We've talked about this many times and somehow you're still incapable of embracing it.

How does the saying go? What's the definition of insanity? Oh, right. All hail the plus-minus gods.

I think the Wolves should start

Rubio/Nowell/mcdaniels/ Layman/vandy

That has been the wolves best lineup this year when it comes to +/- that qualifies.

I don't really think Towns, Beasley, dlo or ant should really ever see the floor anymore

Wolves have 21 lineups that have a positive +/- if they have played any possessions at all. KAT is only in 3 of them. Trade him for Muscala now before it's to late

[Coolbreeze44]

Whenever DLO comes back and this team is healthy then we don't have Rubio losing every game for us I expect this team to play .500 ball if not better.

Heck if Rubio wasn't the worst PG in the league we'd be almost .500 now.

It's just not going to happen. .500 is way too optimistic based on our talent and schedule.

[kekgeek]

Whenever DLO comes back and this team is healthy then we don't have Rubio losing every game for us I expect this team to play .500 ball if not better.

Heck if Rubio wasn't the worst PG in the league we'd be almost .500 now.

It's just not going to happen. .500 is way too optimistic based on our talent and schedule.

I'm really curious to see what happens. Like you said when Thibs got fired mid season its was going to be hard for Ryan to implement things in season. Now we have a guy who meets the team he is coaching today and coaches them tomorrow with a coaching staff that isn't his and his main assistant will probably resent him a little bit at least. This could go bad to end the year