Rubio trade primer

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I think we wait on a deal until next year. The market isn't there right now for a good deal for us after the Teague/Hill trade. CP3 and Westbrook's deals are both up next year either leaving PG needy teams or creating them by teams taking a swing and ending up missing. Philly and Milwaukee will get a year seeing how full-time point forwards will work or may not work. I think there will be a better market next year and we'll have a better idea how close Dunn is to being ready for the starting role.

[Coolbreeze44]

I'm not sure Dunn's value will ever be higher than it is this offseason. For our sake I hope it increases because that would mean he's a really good player. But if I had to bet (and you all know I do) I would say his trade value will decrease between now and next offseason.

[longstrangetrip [enjin:6600564]]

I'm not sure Dunn's value will ever be higher than it is this offseason. For our sake I hope it increases because that would mean he's a really good player. But if I had to bet (and you all know I do) I would say his trade value will decrease between now and next offseason.

I tend to agree with your take, Cool, and even though I'm growing more attached to Dunn every day, I wouldn't be opposed to moving him before summer league if a really attractive deal was offered. I think his value was high on draft night, and might even be higher now with all the favorable press about him.

[Lipoli390]

I'm not sure Dunn's value will ever be higher than it is this offseason. For our sake I hope it increases because that would mean he's a really good player. But if I had to bet (and you all know I do) I would say his trade value will decrease between now and next offseason.

I tend to agree with your take, Cool, and even though I'm growing more attached to Dunn every day, I wouldn't be opposed to moving him before summer league if a really attractive deal was offered. I think his value was high on draft night, and might even be higher now with all the favorable press about him.

I also agree with Cool's take on this. I like Dunn and have high hopes. But history suggests that Dunn's career won't match the draft hype. So his value is probably at its peak, although there is certainly a reasonable chance he performs really well and enhances his value.

[khans2k5 [enjin:6608728]]

I'm not sure Dunn's value will ever be higher than it is this offseason. For our sake I hope it increases because that would mean he's a really good player. But if I had to bet (and you all know I do) I would say his trade value will decrease between now and next offseason.

I tend to agree with your take, Cool, and even though I'm growing more attached to Dunn every day, I wouldn't be opposed to moving him before summer league if a really attractive deal was offered. I think his value was high on draft night, and might even be higher now with all the favorable press about him.

I also agree with Cool's take on this. I like Dunn and have high hopes. But history suggests that Dunn's career won't match the draft hype. So his value is probably at its peak, although there is certainly a reasonable chance he performs really well and enhances his value.

Ya guys, let's just hedge our bets now rather than give him a chance to show you anything. It's called have a little faith and patience. A bunch of teams and analysts liked this guy for a reason. Let's give him a chance before we go full Eor on Dunn.

[Lipoli390]

I'm not sure Dunn's value will ever be higher than it is this offseason. For our sake I hope it increases because that would mean he's a really good player. But if I had to bet (and you all know I do) I would say his trade value will decrease between now and next offseason.

I tend to agree with your take, Cool, and even though I'm growing more attached to Dunn every day, I wouldn't be opposed to moving him before summer league if a really attractive deal was offered. I think his value was high on draft night, and might even be higher now with all the favorable press about him.

I also agree with Cool's take on this. I like Dunn and have high hopes. But history suggests that Dunn's career won't match the draft hype. So his value is probably at its peak, although there is certainly a reasonable chance he performs really well and enhances his value.

Ya guys, let's just hedge our bets now rather than give him a chance to show you anything. It's called have a little faith and patience. A bunch of teams and analysts liked this guy for a reason. Let's give him a chance before we go full Eor on Dunn.

Kahn -- I agree with Cool that the odds suggest Dunn's value will never be higher than this summer. That's just the lesson of draft history. However, I'm with you on wanting to give Dunn a chance. I have a good feeling about him and would like to see us keep him.

My position hasn't changed. I think we should keep all the core players we had last season and add to them. That means keeping KAT, Wiggins, Zach, Gorgui and Ricky. I like the addition of Dunn. I think we should keep him I'd like to see us add a couple quality free agents. I'm content keeping Belly, Bazz, Jones and even Payne, but I would actively shop them this summer to see if we can upgrade our roster overall. I'm fine having KG play out his contract if he's reasonably healthy, but otherwise I'd like to see I'm retire. I've love to move Pek, but don't see that happening. Hopefully, he'll take a medical retirement in time to free his cap space up next summer.

Next summer is when we should take a hard look at who we move forward with. Let's see how all these guys develop and gel together under Thibs.

[Mstermisty [enjin:6864008]]

The Rubio trade rumors give me a headache. I just can't comprehend why smart basketball guys like Thibs/Layden would take an unnecessary gamble in trading a know commodity in Rubio (right now). It's simple for me:

A) If you trade anybody before next season it's Dunn. Other teams will bet on his potential. You would be selling high and possibly regretting it later.

B) If Dunn shows you something quickly and wins the starting job you hope Rubio would be willing to play out his extremely reasonable contract in a diminished role, where he could still be a huge asset to the team. If he would be unable to accept this role (a definite possibility), then you explore all offers, of which surely there would be many.

C) The most likely scenario in my opinion: Rubio continues as the starter while Dunn learns how to be an NBA point guard. By the time Dunn is ready, Rubio's contract will look even better, he will be entering his prime years, and his trade value will peak. Now you sell high.

* Also of course there is the small possibly that Rubio's shot takes a big leap forward (I am skeptical at this point however) and then, assuming he does all the other things he has always done, you have an all-star and he becomes untradeable.

[Coolbreeze44]

I'm not sure Dunn's value will ever be higher than it is this offseason. For our sake I hope it increases because that would mean he's a really good player. But if I had to bet (and you all know I do) I would say his trade value will decrease between now and next offseason.

I tend to agree with your take, Cool, and even though I'm growing more attached to Dunn every day, I wouldn't be opposed to moving him before summer league if a really attractive deal was offered. I think his value was high on draft night, and might even be higher now with all the favorable press about him.

I also agree with Cool's take on this. I like Dunn and have high hopes. But history suggests that Dunn's career won't match the draft hype. So his value is probably at its peak, although there is certainly a reasonable chance he performs really well and enhances his value.

Ya guys, let's just hedge our bets now rather than give him a chance to show you anything. It's called have a little faith and patience. A bunch of teams and analysts liked this guy for a reason. Let's give him a chance before we go full Eor on Dunn.

Kahn -- I agree with Cool that the odds suggest Dunn's value will never be higher than this summer. That's just the lesson of draft history. However, I'm with you on wanting to give Dunn a chance. I have a good feeling about him and would like to see us keep him.

My position hasn't changed. I think we should keep all the core players we had last season and add to them. That means keeping KAT, Wiggins, Zach, Gorgui and Ricky. I like the addition of Dunn. I think we should keep him I'd like to see us add a couple quality free agents. I'm content keeping Belly, Bazz, Jones and even Payne, but I would actively shop them this summer to see if we can upgrade our roster overall. I'm fine having KG play out his contract if he's reasonably healthy, but otherwise I'd like to see I'm retire. I've love to move Pek, but don't see that happening. Hopefully, he'll take a medical retirement in time to free his cap space up next summer.

Next summer is when we should take a hard look at who we move forward with. Let's see how all these guys develop and gel together under Thibs.

Lip, allow me to add that I'm not advocating for a Dunn trade. If forced to trade one of our PG's it would be Ricky. But if we keep them both I'm fine with that for now. I'm just speaking hypothetically when I talk about Dunn's value. It is really high right now and shear probability suggests it would go down rather than up over the course of the next year.

[SameOldNudityDrew]

Anybody else think we're (myself included) getting too stressed out over rumors and fears?

We drafted the guy we thought was the best player. Ricky and Dunn will both be on our roster this year and that makes sense. We should just enjoy the next step in rebuilding.

I'm excited to think about having both these guys, plus the rest of our roster. This is a fun time to be a Wolves fan.

EDIT: I reworded that. My first draft shouldn't have used the word "frothed," and I wasn't admitting how stressed I've gotten about everything myself.

[60WinTim]

I have not had a problem thus far. Well, except for that stretch where Lip was claiming we were shipping out Dunn and Rubio, or whatever nonsense it was! ;-)