Mikkeman wrote:JasonIsDaMan wrote:Mikkeman wrote:
Why you would want Noah even tough his PER splits are pretty awful (-3.3) and it seems that his game is diminishing rapidly. Last year he still had -0.5 PER splits and year before that +5.9. It is not probable that he would be able to turn that trend. In top of that he is injury prone.
I would want him at the propper price, and I would chose Gasol over him.
"Prone" is a strong word. He has played 64 or more games in 7 of 9 seasons. Last year was a bad year, no argument. But he has a track record, so why would he not be able to "turn that trend"?
And why would you call me out and not the person who originally posted it? Did you agree until you found out I did?
Noah has also missed at least 15 games in 5 of 9 seasons. It is also very rare that big men that are over 30 year old that have had pretty bad injury history would suddenly stay healthy when they get even older. It is also rare that players who have had consecutive seasons with rapidly diminishing stats would bounce strongly back especially if player is already over 30 years old.
Cam nailed it, I responded to your post because you are using PER splits like they would be final truth whenever they support your argument but forgot them totally in case using it would make your proposal look bad.
I don't like PER splits at least as a single stat to determine players value because it is really flawed stat like almost any advanced stat if it is not looked really carefully. For example Bazz looks quite OK in PER split because he has high usage and thus quite high PER and more importantly because he guards every single time the worst offensive wing on the floor. So because he is typically matched against non-scoring wings it looks like he would be OK in defense. Wiggins for example looks from PER split point of view better as shooting guard than as small forward but real reason for numbers is that when he plays with Zach he typically guards opponents best wing but when he played with Prince, he often was guarding weaker wing so that he could save energy for offense. Also in general average PER for shooting guards is lower than average PER for small forwards, so even if he would be guarding player in corresponding position and keeping them in their average numbers, it would look like he did better job as shooting guard.
Another problem with looking PER split from defense point of view is that since it considers only the PER of the guy you are supposed to guard, it won't give any credit for good team defense. For example Paul Gasol plays horrible pick and roll defense that leaves guard difficult position to recover from pick. But since he stays with his man whom doesn't score, it is not visible in defensive PER. Same was true for Pek.
BTW. I would also want Wolves team to sign Paul Gasol but only if NBA season would be 8 games long and our team name would be Spain.
Actually, if he played 64 games, that would mean he missed 18. Math is fun.
And once again, if you don't like a move, you don't like a move. Stop calling me out.
OK. You don't like Bazz. Do you suggest they get someone more productive, or someone less productive and hope it works out? And I guess the same goes for Gasol, right?
